Asking for Advice - Rejection from Oyster-Adams Preschool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oversimplification. Plenty of the opposite can be found. Parents need to read both sides of the research (in favor and against) and decide for themselves. Not easy unless you have nothing to do.... If it can push English/math scores to levels of Janney, Lafayette, Mann...and prepare students for high school/college (beyond what those articles say), some parents may think is good (and why wait over 10 years to implement?), but others will decide to wait and see what happens, just in case. Both deserve respect.

Please post the research that has found that 90/10 language immersion programs have poor outcomes. We’ll wait.

Sorry, have work to do. You can google it or use a research database at a university/research organization... to find it on your own and then make sure to compare sources, choose the most reliable ones....People have to get trained extensively to write and interpret research results. In general, target population in posted articles is different and for results to be replicated many similar conditions need to be met. The key is the actual implementation. Will the model be implemented in all grades? What will happen to the English teachers now at Oyster? Will they be forced to retired, fired or put to teach Spanish if they can? Where will the new teachers come from? How much experience will they have? What will happen to the English program? How will the 2 existing Oyster models (2 teachers at a time or change of classroom in the middle) be affected? Will heritage students follow a different model than those who speak English? We tried a school implementing something new (and better in theory) for the first time and had to go back to our regular daycare for preK-4 in less than 2 weeks. Everyone happy with the results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oversimplification. Plenty of the opposite can be found. Parents need to read both sides of the research (in favor and against) and decide for themselves. Not easy unless you have nothing to do.... If it can push English/math scores to levels of Janney, Lafayette, Mann...and prepare students for high school/college (beyond what those articles say), some parents may think is good (and why wait over 10 years to implement?), but others will decide to wait and see what happens, just in case. Both deserve respect.

Please post the research that has found that 90/10 language immersion programs have poor outcomes. We’ll wait.

Sorry, have work to do. You can google it or use a research database at a university/research organization... to find it on your own and then make sure to compare sources, choose the most reliable ones....People have to get trained extensively to write and interpret research results. In general, target population in posted articles is different and for results to be replicated many similar conditions need to be met. The key is the actual implementation. Will the model be implemented in all grades? What will happen to the English teachers now at Oyster? Will they be forced to retired, fired or put to teach Spanish if they can? Where will the new teachers come from? How much experience will they have? What will happen to the English program? How will the 2 existing Oyster models (2 teachers at a time or change of classroom in the middle) be affected? Will heritage students follow a different model than those who speak English? We tried a school implementing something new (and better in theory) for the first time and had to go back to our regular daycare for preK-4 in less than 2 weeks. Everyone happy with the results.

Good, stay happy wherever you are now. We’re doing just fine at OA without your concern-trolling. Be well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oversimplification. Plenty of the opposite can be found. Parents need to read both sides of the research (in favor and against) and decide for themselves. Not easy unless you have nothing to do.... If it can push English/math scores to levels of Janney, Lafayette, Mann...and prepare students for high school/college (beyond what those articles say), some parents may think is good (and why wait over 10 years to implement?), but others will decide to wait and see what happens, just in case. Both deserve respect.

Please post the research that has found that 90/10 language immersion programs have poor outcomes. We’ll wait.

Sorry, have work to do. You can google it or use a research database at a university/research organization... to find it on your own and then make sure to compare sources, choose the most reliable ones....People have to get trained extensively to write and interpret research results. In general, target population in posted articles is different and for results to be replicated many similar conditions need to be met. The key is the actual implementation. Will the model be implemented in all grades? What will happen to the English teachers now at Oyster? Will they be forced to retired, fired or put to teach Spanish if they can? Where will the new teachers come from? How much experience will they have? What will happen to the English program? How will the 2 existing Oyster models (2 teachers at a time or change of classroom in the middle) be affected? Will heritage students follow a different model than those who speak English? We tried a school implementing something new (and better in theory) for the first time and had to go back to our regular daycare for preK-4 in less than 2 weeks. Everyone happy with the results.

Yeah, you simply don’t get to claim “research says” and then claim to be too busy to post the research. That’s not how this works.

[Anonymous]

My child recently took the test for Bancroft and was asked in Spanish, "What have you been doing over the summer", which he responded in Spanish of course. Completed a Math worksheet in Spanish and read 2 pages out of a Spanish book.

These are fairly simple task that should be able to be completed by anyone with knowledge of the language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child recently took the test for Bancroft and was asked in Spanish, "What have you been doing over the summer", which he responded in Spanish of course. Completed a Math worksheet in Spanish and read 2 pages out of a Spanish book.

These are fairly simple task that should be able to be completed by anyone with knowledge of the language.

I know this threads a couple months old but this made me lol. You think it's fairly simple for a 4 yo to "read 2 pages?"

My comment is that I believe even if Oyster thinks your child speaks Spanish fluently, and has a Latino parent, they want kids who only speak Spanish and have two Latino parents because the issue with kids is they slide into English as they get older. One of the best ways to motivate kids in a language is to surround them with PEERS who speak it. They are doing their best to maintain a half population that is ONLY speaking Spanish with parents and extended family. And in fact, I believe they may be the only DCPS or charter school that has been able to do this and part of why they are successful. Except for Bruce Monroe and possible Powell (because they are in mostly Latino neighborhoods and also not "highly regarded" so not full of non Latinos.

[Anonymous]

Try over a year old.

[Anonymous]

Give it a rest Oyster booster. It’s known that there are not many native speaking families in your elementary schools from K on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest Oyster booster. It’s known that there are not many native speaking families in your elementary schools from K on.

Weird that someone feels the need to post nonsense on this zombie thread. This is, of course, completely wrong. The school is close to 50% native speakers.