Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s fraud and if you get caught, you’ll be fined and forced to pay each years tuition for each child...

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Go away. Tuition only applies to non-DC residents. DCPS changed it policy last year and now students can continue at their school (and feeder path too) even if they move OOB. And it’s clear DCPS did this in response to IB Parents who incessantly complained that OOB got to keep their spot even if they move houses (so long as they stay in the District). I think the complaint was intended to argue why OOB practice need to be eliminated. But since that will never go away DC responded, “OK, nobody has to leave.” Big backfire.

The fraud here is writing a fake address on the enrollment forms.

One of the necessary elements of fraud is injury to the defrauded party. DCPS would have to show that it is injured by a child registering in one school instead of another. I don't see how they do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s fraud and if you get caught, you’ll be fined and forced to pay each years tuition for each child...

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Go away. Tuition only applies to non-DC residents. DCPS changed it policy last year and now students can continue at their school (and feeder path too) even if they move OOB. And it’s clear DCPS did this in response to IB Parents who incessantly complained that OOB got to keep their spot even if they move houses (so long as they stay in the District). I think the complaint was intended to argue why OOB practice need to be eliminated. But since that will never go away DC responded, “OK, nobody has to leave.” Big backfire.

Good analysis, makes sense.

How, exactly, would a parent know that a particular address was fake from day 1 of K for a child? They've staked out the family to track, photograph, and film where the kids and parents have slept throughout the entire K year? From what I've observed, complainers haven't set foot inside the residences of the "cheating" families they complain about.

Residency fraud whispering campaigns at our JKLM are invariably spurned by one of several issues, or a combo: A) a kid struck out in an IB ECE lottery, with a complainer convinced that a "cheating" family stole a spot earmarked for her kid, B) thinly veiled jealously that the "cheating" family has done much better in the local real estate market than the complainer, or, C) an even more personal reason, e.g. the "cheating" parents annoy the complainer.

Get a life, complainers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS Web Page
Click ENROLL
Click HOW TO ENROLL
Click RELATED FORMS (Bottom of page)
Click SY 17-18 ENROLLMENT & LOTTERY HANDBOOK
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Pretty clearly, some of the supposed cheaters are people who moved OOB during a school year from K+ and have stayed in the school as per the rules.

Exactly. People who get all wrapped around the axle about where in the District people live need to stop wasting their time. The vast majority of the time it’s legit and those families don’t owe you any sort of explanation. If you’re so desperate to play CSI then focus your knuckleheaded efforts on people who live outside DC but send their children to our public schools.

+100. Don't like the residency whispering campaigns against DC residents in our EotP DCPS. The grudge-bearing, self-righteous parents who initiative them are the ones I'd like to see ousted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS Web Page
Click ENROLL
Click HOW TO ENROLL
Click RELATED FORMS (Bottom of page)
Click SY 17-18 ENROLLMENT & LOTTERY HANDBOOK
Page 8 of 41

Pretty clearly, some of the supposed cheaters are people who moved OOB during a school year from K+ and have stayed in the school as per the rules.

Exactly. People who get all wrapped around the axle about where in the District people live need to stop wasting their time. The vast majority of the time it’s legit and those families don’t owe you any sort of explanation. If you’re so desperate to play CSI then focus your knuckleheaded efforts on people who live outside DC but send their children to our public schools.

+100. Don't like the residency whispering campaigns against DC residents in our EotP DCPS. The grudge-bearing, self-righteous parents who initiative them are the ones I'd like to see ousted.

initiate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s fraud and if you get caught, you’ll be fined and forced to pay each years tuition for each child...

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Go away. Tuition only applies to non-DC residents. DCPS changed it policy last year and now students can continue at their school (and feeder path too) even if they move OOB. And it’s clear DCPS did this in response to IB Parents who incessantly complained that OOB got to keep their spot even if they move houses (so long as they stay in the District). I think the complaint was intended to argue why OOB practice need to be eliminated. But since that will never go away DC responded, “OK, nobody has to leave.” Big backfire.

The fraud here is writing a fake address on the enrollment forms.

One of the necessary elements of fraud is injury to the defrauded party. DCPS would have to show that it is injured by a child registering in one school instead of another. I don't see how they do that.

nice try, 1L. I'm not talking about civil fraud. I'm talking about putting false information on a government document. Here is what you attest to when you fill out your DCPS enrollment form: "I completed this form and I certify that the
information above is accurate. I understand that providing false information for purposes of defrauding the government is punishable by law."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS Web Page
Click ENROLL
Click HOW TO ENROLL
Click RELATED FORMS (Bottom of page)
Click SY 17-18 ENROLLMENT & LOTTERY HANDBOOK
Page 8 of 41

Pretty clearly, some of the supposed cheaters are people who moved OOB during a school year from K+ and have stayed in the school as per the rules.

Exactly. People who get all wrapped around the axle about where in the District people live need to stop wasting their time. The vast majority of the time it’s legit and those families don’t owe you any sort of explanation. If you’re so desperate to play CSI then focus your knuckleheaded efforts on people who live outside DC but send their children to our public schools.

+100. Don't like the residency whispering campaigns against DC residents in our EotP DCPS. The grudge-bearing, self-righteous parents who initiative them are the ones I'd like to see ousted.

The guilt eats you up, doesn't it! I don't really care all that much if you cheat, but the hypocrisy of being so OUTRAGED because people call you a cheater ... when you are in fact a cheater ... just doesn't compute.

[Anonymous]

Don’t bite anybody, the new rule has them grasping at straws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS Web Page
Click ENROLL
Click HOW TO ENROLL
Click RELATED FORMS (Bottom of page)
Click SY 17-18 ENROLLMENT & LOTTERY HANDBOOK
Page 8 of 41

Pretty clearly, some of the supposed cheaters are people who moved OOB during a school year from K+ and have stayed in the school as per the rules.

Exactly. People who get all wrapped around the axle about where in the District people live need to stop wasting their time. The vast majority of the time it’s legit and those families don’t owe you any sort of explanation. If you’re so desperate to play CSI then focus your knuckleheaded efforts on people who live outside DC but send their children to our public schools.

+100. Don't like the residency whispering campaigns against DC residents in our EotP DCPS. The grudge-bearing, self-righteous parents who initiative them are the ones I'd like to see ousted.

The guilt eats you up, doesn't it! I don't really care all that much if you cheat, but the hypocrisy of being so OUTRAGED because people call you a cheater ... when you are in fact a cheater ... just doesn't compute.

Snort. Youre so sad.

[Anonymous]

No dog in this fight but enjoying the irony of IB parents for high-performing DCPS demanding a crackdown on unauthorized OOB use, and getting....the opposite!

The schmucks must have called the fraud hotline so often that the residency fraud team begged higher-ups for relief. Ha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS Web Page
Click ENROLL
Click HOW TO ENROLL
Click RELATED FORMS (Bottom of page)
Click SY 17-18 ENROLLMENT & LOTTERY HANDBOOK
Page 8 of 41

Pretty clearly, some of the supposed cheaters are people who moved OOB during a school year from K+ and have stayed in the school as per the rules.

Exactly. People who get all wrapped around the axle about where in the District people live need to stop wasting their time. The vast majority of the time it’s legit and those families don’t owe you any sort of explanation. If you’re so desperate to play CSI then focus your knuckleheaded efforts on people who live outside DC but send their children to our public schools.

+100. Don't like the residency whispering campaigns against DC residents in our EotP DCPS. The grudge-bearing, self-righteous parents who initiative them are the ones I'd like to see ousted.

The guilt eats you up, doesn't it! I don't really care all that much if you cheat, but the hypocrisy of being so OUTRAGED because people call you a cheater ... when you are in fact a cheater ... just doesn't compute.

Snort. Youre so sad.

Your obvious defense mechanisms are sad. And you're exactly the kind of person who would be whining to the heavens if the tables were turned if you couldn't get a spot in your high demand IB school due to boundary cheaters. Your entitlement is gross.

[Anonymous]

^^ +1. If people legit bought a family home for their IB school but can’t get their kids in for PK3/4—and the cheaters are able to get get theirs in for PK by using the address of some studio they rent out—is it still okay?

[Anonymous]

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, I guess DC liberals who obsess about where their children's classmates sleep at night should no longer make fun of VA conservatives who obsess about what immigration papers their neighbors may or may not carry in their wallets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ +1. If people legit bought a family home for their IB school but can’t get their kids in for PK3/4—and the cheaters are able to get get theirs in for PK by using the address of some studio they rent out—is it still okay?

According to the DC government it’s ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ +1. If people legit bought a family home for their IB school but can’t get their kids in for PK3/4—and the cheaters are able to get get theirs in for PK by using the address of some studio they rent out—is it still okay?

According to the DC government it’s ok.

I was referring to the people here that say they're ok with cheaters at their schools. What if it directly affects them--would this practice still be fine with them?

And yes it happens--our school had an IB waitlist for PK, and yet somehow a few of my kid's classmates did not live in the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Same thing happened to us. We live in the neighborhood but were shut out for PreK4 at our DCPS.

You know what? We didn't complain and didn't try to bust a couple families we suspect got in with dodgy residency addresses. We accepted that IB PreK isn't a right in the District. We headed to a wonderful charter and had a good experience there before landing at our IB for K. We don't hold grudges and aren't complaining about the new rule letting everybody stay at their "current school" from K, no matter where they really live in DC.