So, what is wrong with Hardy?

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at Stoddert and they are both afraid to go to Hardy bc of what they see when they are in the building to attend Fillmore. Kids are aggressive in the hallways and my kids have witnessed fights. The teachers don't seem in control of the students at all.

This is a lie. Aggressive behavior does not belong to Hardy 2015, and of course teachers are in full control. Double check with your kids, maybe they are just intimidated by the larger size and louder voices of middle school kids.

IB 6th and 7th grade Hardy parent.

"This is a lie", "double check with your kids..."... Your response seems aggresive to me!
With your attitude you are damaging the school image, thats for sure.

You and your progeny appear to be engaged in slanderous statements. As current procreators of scholars matriculated at Rose Hardy Middle School, we are quite firm in our position that your statements are unfounded.

Is that better for you PP? Oh wait, nothing will be good enough. Hardy parents are damned if they say nothing and damned if they challenge statements made by people who have no or highly limited experiences with the school. Whatever. Bash away. Remember, you've got that 100-page goal for this thread.

Another aggresive post. I have nothing to do with the PP I was refering to. Have I said something offensive? Aggressive? Disrespectful? On the contrary of what you think I have all the interest on Hardy been a good option for us.
I don't understand how this threads degenerate. I was serious. For me, this type of reaponses from supossed Hardy's parents is what really make me question about a potential fit of our family with the school.

Different poster here. Really, you'd make your decision about sending your kid to Hardy based on the tone of the responses you read on DCUM? You have no idea whether the people posting here are even representative of the IB and OOB families. As far as I can see in the exchange above, there are some misunderstandings present that often occur in social media exchanges. In my book, that's not a sufficient reason for deciding whether to send your kid to Hardy or not. But, hey, do what works for you.

Another valid point. I do not base my decision on DCUM. I "analyze" DCCAS scores, IB/OOB rates, Great Schools ratings, etc.... Then, I follow threads like this one, and sometimes, they signal something, they give me warnings. I don't know if the poster you are referring to is actually a parent or not, but what would be the purpose to fake it? and to fake being so offended? Even thought, this thread is not by any means a representative sample of anything, but yes, I take it into account It might point me out things I may want to consider, such as how is the parent community like, how does the PAC deal with disagreement, and so on.... And yes, at the end of the day it is a very personal choice.

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Councilmember Mary Cheh has monthly office hours around Ward 3. IB parents should go and tell her they support her proposal for a new middle school west of Rock Creek Park.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

I am IB for Hardy, and totally agree. Hardy has been going to great lengths at our ES to recruit more IB families, but for those I know who have toured the school (myself included) it just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be "educated."

Same at our ES. Care to elaborate, PP?

They never do. The vast majority of folks who airdrop in with a blast at Hardy like this one rarely elaborate - perhaps because really what they mean is "I saw this 5 years ago," or "A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend heard it and told me."

Maybe the reason people don't "care to elaborate" is because of hostile Hardy parents like you No matter what I have to say as an IB parent, you are going to accuse me of lying, accuse me of having never set foot in the school, accuse me of hearing the information from "a friend of a friend of a friend," accuse me of bringing up stories from past years etc etc. You yourself come off as incredible aggressive, resentful, and defensive.

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Lets just move forward with taking over the school, as is already happening with increased IB enrollment in 6th grade this year. Just a few more IBs next year and it's basically done. The OOB/IBs from feeder schools will continue to welcome us, as these kids are already friends and classmates. Any current OOB Hardy parents who are hysterical to the point of embellishing anonymous board posts, at the prospect of "snowflakes" invading their precious vacation home on the west, will simply graduate away.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

I am IB for Hardy, and totally agree. Hardy has been going to great lengths at our ES to recruit more IB families, but for those I know who have toured the school (myself included) it just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be "educated."

Same at our ES. Care to elaborate, PP?

They never do. The vast majority of folks who airdrop in with a blast at Hardy like this one rarely elaborate - perhaps because really what they mean is "I saw this 5 years ago," or "A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend heard it and told me."

Maybe the reason people don't "care to elaborate" is because of hostile Hardy parents like you No matter what I have to say as an IB parent, you are going to accuse me of lying, accuse me of having never set foot in the school, accuse me of hearing the information from "a friend of a friend of a friend," accuse me of bringing up stories from past years etc etc. You yourself come off as incredible aggressive, resentful, and defensive.

I am defensive at this point, yes. But I'm eager to assess the validity and legitimacy of complaints about Hardy. Some are valid and legitimate. But others are not. For example, complaints that date back to the 2010 period, which was four Principals ago, have little legitimacy. Complaints that boil down to "Somebody told me something bad about Hardy" also do not have legitimacy. Complaints that are "I want to Hardy on or about this [recent] date, and saw X, Y, and Z that concern me" may well have legitimacy. "It just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be 'educated'" means little without some context as to why.

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Anonymous wrote:Lets just move forward with taking over the school, as is already happening with increased IB enrollment in 6th grade this year. Just a few more IBs next year and it's basically done. The OOB/IBs from feeder schools will continue to welcome us, as these kids are already friends and classmates. Any current OOB Hardy parents who are hysterical to the point of embellishing anonymous board posts, at the prospect of "snowflakes" invading their precious vacation home on the west, will simply graduate away.

You realize that such parents do not exist now, right? I'll accept that they may have existed five years ago. But now? Nope. Does it make you feel better to make up their existence?

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

I am IB for Hardy, and totally agree. Hardy has been going to great lengths at our ES to recruit more IB families, but for those I know who have toured the school (myself included) it just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be "educated."

Same at our ES. Care to elaborate, PP?

They never do. The vast majority of folks who airdrop in with a blast at Hardy like this one rarely elaborate - perhaps because really what they mean is "I saw this 5 years ago," or "A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend heard it and told me."

Maybe the reason people don't "care to elaborate" is because of hostile Hardy parents like you No matter what I have to say as an IB parent, you are going to accuse me of lying, accuse me of having never set foot in the school, accuse me of hearing the information from "a friend of a friend of a friend," accuse me of bringing up stories from past years etc etc. You yourself come off as incredible aggressive, resentful, and defensive.

I am defensive at this point, yes. But I'm eager to assess the validity and legitimacy of complaints about Hardy. Some are valid and legitimate. But others are not. For example, complaints that date back to the 2010 period, which was four Principals ago, have little legitimacy. Complaints that boil down to "Somebody told me something bad about Hardy" also do not have legitimacy. Complaints that are "I want to Hardy on or about this [recent] date, and saw X, Y, and Z that concern me" may well have legitimacy. "It just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be 'educated'" means little without some context as to why.

I should also add that I am an IB parent with a former Hardy student who thrived there. So I know a bit about how to assess the validity of the complaints.

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PP: I don't buy for one second that you are an IB parent, moreover a parent of a "former" student. You are just WAY too angry.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

I am IB for Hardy, and totally agree. Hardy has been going to great lengths at our ES to recruit more IB families, but for those I know who have toured the school (myself included) it just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be "educated."

Same at our ES. Care to elaborate, PP?

They never do. The vast majority of folks who airdrop in with a blast at Hardy like this one rarely elaborate - perhaps because really what they mean is "I saw this 5 years ago," or "A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend heard it and told me."

Maybe the reason people don't "care to elaborate" is because of hostile Hardy parents like you No matter what I have to say as an IB parent, you are going to accuse me of lying, accuse me of having never set foot in the school, accuse me of hearing the information from "a friend of a friend of a friend," accuse me of bringing up stories from past years etc etc. You yourself come off as incredible aggressive, resentful, and defensive.

I am defensive at this point, yes. But I'm eager to assess the validity and legitimacy of complaints about Hardy. Some are valid and legitimate. But others are not. For example, complaints that date back to the 2010 period, which was four Principals ago, have little legitimacy. Complaints that boil down to "Somebody told me something bad about Hardy" also do not have legitimacy. Complaints that are "I want to Hardy on or about this [recent] date, and saw X, Y, and Z that concern me" may well have legitimacy. "It just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be 'educated'" means little without some context as to why.

I should also add that I am an IB parent with a former Hardy student who thrived there. So I know a bit about how to assess the validity of the complaints.

If you are a former parent - under which principal or principals? And what exactly is different now?

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Anonymous wrote:Lets just move forward with taking over the school, as is already happening with increased IB enrollment in 6th grade this year. Just a few more IBs next year and it's basically done. The OOB/IBs from feeder schools will continue to welcome us, as these kids are already friends and classmates. Any current OOB Hardy parents who are hysterical to the point of embellishing anonymous board posts, at the prospect of "snowflakes" invading their precious vacation home on the west, will simply graduate away.

You realize that such parents do not exist now, right? I'll accept that they may have existed five years ago. But now? Nope. Does it make you feel better to make up their existence?

As a Hardy parent from the mid-2000s, I don't think they existed back then either. Yes, there was a short period of time where there was resentment over the unjust removal of Principal Pope but that was an individual event (and if your highly regarded principal had been removed without warning from your school you would have been pissed too). I don't recall any parents going on about fear of IB students attending or the desire to keep IB families out. Seriously, what do y'all think we were doing back then at PTA meetings? Trying to organize the International Night, not worrying about IB families.

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You simply need to consider how these posts are viewed by current Hardy parents (like me). When you indicate that our children are not fit to attend school with your children or imply that we are bad parents for sending our children to Hardy, or imply that we have no interest in making the school a better school with improved academic offerings, it makes us upset. And if these posts are based on inaccurate information, it makes us more upset. So you shouldn't be offended when we call a lie a lie.

Here's the problem I have: if one person is accusing another of implying something that wasn't actually said, they might just as well be guilty of inferring something that wasn't said. You can't go around calling someone a liar for something they didn't say! Even if you think it's what they really meant!

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Anonymous wrote:PP: I don't buy for one second that you are an IB parent, moreover a parent of a "former" student. You are just WAY too angry.

Different poster here -- put yourself in that person's place and reread some of the comments here, especially those that accuse Hardy parents and teachers of hostility to IB families. That wouldn't piss you off?

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What is an IB? Being a parent seems like a pain.

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You simply need to consider how these posts are viewed by current Hardy parents (like me). When you indicate that our children are not fit to attend school with your children or imply that we are bad parents for sending our children to Hardy, or imply that we have no interest in making the school a better school with improved academic offerings, it makes us upset. And if these posts are based on inaccurate information, it makes us more upset. So you shouldn't be offended when we call a lie a lie.

Here's the problem I have: if one person is accusing another of implying something that wasn't actually said, they might just as well be guilty of inferring something that wasn't said. You can't go around calling someone a liar for something they didn't say! Even if you think it's what they really meant!

Except these things are actually being said. Have you read the 100+ page threads on how the only way to make the school acceptable is to reduce the number of OOB kids? Have you read the posts that say the uniforms make Hardy appear to be a ghetto school? Have you read the many, many posts saying that current Hardy parents don't care about improving the school? Those aren't vaguely implied or hinted at - they are all put out there in the open. And they are an insult to the current Hardy parents.

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Anonymous wrote:PP: I don't buy for one second that you are an IB parent, moreover a parent of a "former" student. You are just WAY too angry.

Different poster here -- put yourself in that person's place and reread some of the comments here, especially those that accuse Hardy parents and teachers of hostility to IB families. That wouldn't piss you off?

That shouldn't cause someone to pretend they are IB when they are not.

And fwiw I'm an IB parent and I have never felt hostility from any Hardy families or faculty in the slightest. We are choosing not to send our current 5th grader to Hardy next year, but bc we don't think its the right school for our child, not bc of some hostility that I haven't felt.