So, what is wrong with Hardy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt DCPS is going to end the Fillmore program for elementary kids. As PP pointed out, the elementary schools have no classrooms, materials, or teachers for arts and music in-house. DCPS is not going to spend millions of dollars renovating, adding buildings, and funding those schools when its priority is now EOTP. DCPS gets by on the cheap with Fillmore; last year it screwed the kids by cutting Fillmore funds and firing teachers, so Fillmore is run on a shoestring budget right now. There i no other alternative, so it Fillmore will remain the same, unless it is deservedly re-funded.

So, another PP's point that DCPS plans to expand Hardy's middle school population is flimsy speculation. Hardy's enrollment will more than very likely remain the same.

Read between the lines, PP. DCPS has tried to close Fillmore in the past. Now DCPS is underfunding it to the point that parents are complaining.

Why would DCPS want to get rid of Fillmore? Because DCPS wants more space in the Hardy build.

Why does DCPS want more space in the Hardy building? Because DCPS recognizes how challenging it is to build a functioning middle school from the ground up. DCPS plans to expand functioning middle schools WOTP. Deal is already bursting at the seams. Hardy is next.

The notion that a grass-roots campaign by IB families to "take Hardy back" will result in a majority IB school is preposterous, whether IB is defined strictly or loosely, i.e., feeder kids. As IB enrollment grows at Hardy, so will true OOB enrollment, i.e., the kind that lotteries in from failing schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at Stoddert and they are both afraid to go to Hardy bc of what they see when they are in the building to attend Fillmore. Kids are aggressive in the hallways and my kids have witnessed fights. The teachers don't seem in control of the students at all.

This is a lie. Aggressive behavior does not belong to Hardy 2015, and of course teachers are in full control. Double check with your kids, maybe they are just intimidated by the larger size and louder voices of middle school kids.

IB 6th and 7th grade Hardy parent.

"This is a lie", "double check with your kids..."... Your response seems aggresive to me!
With your attitude you are damaging the school image, thats for sure.

You and your progeny appear to be engaged in slanderous statements. As current procreators of scholars matriculated at Rose Hardy Middle School, we are quite firm in our position that your statements are unfounded.

Is that better for you PP? Oh wait, nothing will be good enough. Hardy parents are damned if they say nothing and damned if they challenge statements made by people who have no or highly limited experiences with the school. Whatever. Bash away. Remember, you've got that 100-page goal for this thread.

Another aggresive post. I have nothing to do with the PP I was refering to. Have I said something offensive? Aggressive? Disrespectful? On the contrary of what you think I have all the interest on Hardy been a good option for us.
I don't understand how this threads degenerate. I was serious. For me, this type of reaponses from supossed Hardy's parents is what really make me question about a potential fit of our family with the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at Stoddert and they are both afraid to go to Hardy bc of what they see when they are in the building to attend Fillmore. Kids are aggressive in the hallways and my kids have witnessed fights. The teachers don't seem in control of the students at all.

This is a lie. Aggressive behavior does not belong to Hardy 2015, and of course teachers are in full control. Double check with your kids, maybe they are just intimidated by the larger size and louder voices of middle school kids.

IB 6th and 7th grade Hardy parent.

"This is a lie", "double check with your kids..."... Your response seems aggresive to me!
With your attitude you are damaging the school image, thats for sure.

You and your progeny appear to be engaged in slanderous statements. As current procreators of scholars matriculated at Rose Hardy Middle School, we are quite firm in our position that your statements are unfounded.

Is that better for you PP? Oh wait, nothing will be good enough. Hardy parents are damned if they say nothing and damned if they challenge statements made by people who have no or highly limited experiences with the school. Whatever. Bash away. Remember, you've got that 100-page goal for this thread.

Another aggresive post. I have nothing to do with the PP I was refering to. Have I said something offensive? Aggressive? Disrespectful? On the contrary of what you think I have all the interest on Hardy been a good option for us.
I don't understand how this threads degenerate. I was serious. For me, this type of reaponses from supossed Hardy's parents is what really make me question about a potential fit of our family with the school.

You simply need to consider how these posts are viewed by current Hardy parents (like me). When you indicate that our children are not fit to attend school with your children or imply that we are bad parents for sending our children to Hardy, or imply that we have no interest in making the school a better school with improved academic offerings, it makes us upset. And if these posts are based on inaccurate information, it makes us more upset. So you shouldn't be offended when we call a lie a lie.

I would add that it takes a heck of a lot nerve to say a bunch of terrible things about our children and us and then - when we try to explain to you how we view Hardy - tell us that we are the reason that IB families feel unwelcome there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at Stoddert and they are both afraid to go to Hardy bc of what they see when they are in the building to attend Fillmore. Kids are aggressive in the hallways and my kids have witnessed fights. The teachers don't seem in control of the students at all.

This is a lie. Aggressive behavior does not belong to Hardy 2015, and of course teachers are in full control. Double check with your kids, maybe they are just intimidated by the larger size and louder voices of middle school kids.

IB 6th and 7th grade Hardy parent.

"This is a lie", "double check with your kids..."... Your response seems aggresive to me!
With your attitude you are damaging the school image, thats for sure.

You and your progeny appear to be engaged in slanderous statements. As current procreators of scholars matriculated at Rose Hardy Middle School, we are quite firm in our position that your statements are unfounded.

Is that better for you PP? Oh wait, nothing will be good enough. Hardy parents are damned if they say nothing and damned if they challenge statements made by people who have no or highly limited experiences with the school. Whatever. Bash away. Remember, you've got that 100-page goal for this thread.

Another aggresive post. I have nothing to do with the PP I was refering to. Have I said something offensive? Aggressive? Disrespectful? On the contrary of what you think I have all the interest on Hardy been a good option for us.
I don't understand how this threads degenerate. I was serious. For me, this type of reaponses from supossed Hardy's parents is what really make me question about a potential fit of our family with the school.

You simply need to consider how these posts are viewed by current Hardy parents (like me). When you indicate that our children are not fit to attend school with your children or imply that we are bad parents for sending our children to Hardy, or imply that we have no interest in making the school a better school with improved academic offerings, it makes us upset. And if these posts are based on inaccurate information, it makes us more upset. So you shouldn't be offended when we call a lie a lie.

I would add that it takes a heck of a lot nerve to say a bunch of terrible things about our children and us and then - when we try to explain to you how we view Hardy - tell us that we are the reason that IB families feel unwelcome there.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
--current Hardy parent of an 8th grader

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I highly doubt DCPS is going to end the Fillmore program for elementary kids. As PP pointed out, the elementary schools have no classrooms, materials, or teachers for arts and music in-house. DCPS is not going to spend millions of dollars renovating, adding buildings, and funding those schools when its priority is now EOTP. DCPS gets by on the cheap with Fillmore; last year it screwed the kids by cutting Fillmore funds and firing teachers, so Fillmore is run on a shoestring budget right now. There i no other alternative, so it Fillmore will remain the same, unless it is deservedly re-funded.

So, another PP's point that DCPS plans to expand Hardy's middle school population is flimsy speculation. Hardy's enrollment will more than very likely remain the same.

Read between the lines, PP. DCPS has tried to close Fillmore in the past. Now DCPS is underfunding it to the point that parents are complaining.

Why would DCPS want to get rid of Fillmore? Because DCPS wants more space in the Hardy build.

Why does DCPS want more space in the Hardy building? Because DCPS recognizes how challenging it is to build a functioning middle school from the ground up. DCPS plans to expand functioning middle schools WOTP. Deal is already bursting at the seams. Hardy is next.

The notion that a grass-roots campaign by IB families to "take Hardy back" will result in a majority IB school is preposterous, whether IB is defined strictly or loosely, i.e., feeder kids. As IB enrollment grows at Hardy, so will true OOB enrollment, i.e., the kind that lotteries in from failing schools.

Politically speaking, the more seats WOTP that Bowser and Henderson can find for EOTP kids, the happier they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at Stoddert and they are both afraid to go to Hardy bc of what they see when they are in the building to attend Fillmore. Kids are aggressive in the hallways and my kids have witnessed fights. The teachers don't seem in control of the students at all.

This is a lie. Aggressive behavior does not belong to Hardy 2015, and of course teachers are in full control. Double check with your kids, maybe they are just intimidated by the larger size and louder voices of middle school kids.

IB 6th and 7th grade Hardy parent.

Excuse me- but don't accuse me of lying just because you don't want to believe, or don't like what I have said. Whether or not aggressive behavior "belongs" at Hardy is not the issue. It is clearly there., and being witnessed by younger children.

[Anonymous]

The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

[Anonymous]

This entire thread has become tiresome -- I don't believe there are any IB parents "bashing" hardy at all, just some pro-status-quo trolls who want to "protect" hardy's status quo by posing as monster-like (and fictional) IB parent-posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fillmore is during school, not after.

And is part of Hardy's problem with IB kids. Most kids at our ES hate going there so there is are negative associations with the building and the arts focus.

I will totally agree with this. My kids HATE going to Fillmore, and I have not liked what I've seen when I have had to go an pick them up early on two occasions for dental appts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

I am IB for Hardy, and totally agree. Hardy has been going to great lengths at our ES to recruit more IB families, but for those I know who have toured the school (myself included) it just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be "educated."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at Stoddert and they are both afraid to go to Hardy bc of what they see when they are in the building to attend Fillmore. Kids are aggressive in the hallways and my kids have witnessed fights. The teachers don't seem in control of the students at all.

This is a lie. Aggressive behavior does not belong to Hardy 2015, and of course teachers are in full control. Double check with your kids, maybe they are just intimidated by the larger size and louder voices of middle school kids.

IB 6th and 7th grade Hardy parent.

"This is a lie", "double check with your kids..."... Your response seems aggresive to me!
With your attitude you are damaging the school image, thats for sure.

You and your progeny appear to be engaged in slanderous statements. As current procreators of scholars matriculated at Rose Hardy Middle School, we are quite firm in our position that your statements are unfounded.

Is that better for you PP? Oh wait, nothing will be good enough. Hardy parents are damned if they say nothing and damned if they challenge statements made by people who have no or highly limited experiences with the school. Whatever. Bash away. Remember, you've got that 100-page goal for this thread.

Another aggresive post. I have nothing to do with the PP I was refering to. Have I said something offensive? Aggressive? Disrespectful? On the contrary of what you think I have all the interest on Hardy been a good option for us.
I don't understand how this threads degenerate. I was serious. For me, this type of reaponses from supossed Hardy's parents is what really make me question about a potential fit of our family with the school.

Different poster here. Really, you'd make your decision about sending your kid to Hardy based on the tone of the responses you read on DCUM? You have no idea whether the people posting here are even representative of the IB and OOB families. As far as I can see in the exchange above, there are some misunderstandings present that often occur in social media exchanges. In my book, that's not a sufficient reason for deciding whether to send your kid to Hardy or not. But, hey, do what works for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread has become tiresome -- I don't believe there are any IB parents "bashing" hardy at all, just some pro-status-quo trolls who want to "protect" hardy's status quo by posing as monster-like (and fictional) IB parent-posters.

Interesting point. So if you're correct about that, then we have nothing to worry about because that would suggest that the vast majority of the people on this thread only want the best for their kids (which may or may not mean sending them to Hardy) and have no ax to grind against Hardy. Unless you're implying that the trolls you've called out are representative of the Hardy families. Care to make your thoughts on that explicit, pp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

I am IB for Hardy, and totally agree. Hardy has been going to great lengths at our ES to recruit more IB families, but for those I know who have toured the school (myself included) it just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be "educated."

Same at our ES. Care to elaborate, PP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is, for most IB parents, Hardy is "Hardly" a middle school option.

I am IB for Hardy, and totally agree. Hardy has been going to great lengths at our ES to recruit more IB families, but for those I know who have toured the school (myself included) it just wasn't the place anyone wanted to drop their kid off to be "educated."

Same at our ES. Care to elaborate, PP?

They never do. The vast majority of folks who airdrop in with a blast at Hardy like this one rarely elaborate - perhaps because really what they mean is "I saw this 5 years ago," or "A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend heard it and told me."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids at Stoddert and they are both afraid to go to Hardy bc of what they see when they are in the building to attend Fillmore. Kids are aggressive in the hallways and my kids have witnessed fights. The teachers don't seem in control of the students at all.

This is a lie. Aggressive behavior does not belong to Hardy 2015, and of course teachers are in full control. Double check with your kids, maybe they are just intimidated by the larger size and louder voices of middle school kids.

IB 6th and 7th grade Hardy parent.

"This is a lie", "double check with your kids..."... Your response seems aggresive to me!
With your attitude you are damaging the school image, thats for sure.

You and your progeny appear to be engaged in slanderous statements. As current procreators of scholars matriculated at Rose Hardy Middle School, we are quite firm in our position that your statements are unfounded.

Is that better for you PP? Oh wait, nothing will be good enough. Hardy parents are damned if they say nothing and damned if they challenge statements made by people who have no or highly limited experiences with the school. Whatever. Bash away. Remember, you've got that 100-page goal for this thread.

Another aggresive post. I have nothing to do with the PP I was refering to. Have I said something offensive? Aggressive? Disrespectful? On the contrary of what you think I have all the interest on Hardy been a good option for us.
I don't understand how this threads degenerate. I was serious. For me, this type of reaponses from supossed Hardy's parents is what really make me question about a potential fit of our family with the school.

You simply need to consider how these posts are viewed by current Hardy parents (like me). When you indicate that our children are not fit to attend school with your children or imply that we are bad parents for sending our children to Hardy, or imply that we have no interest in making the school a better school with improved academic offerings, it makes us upset. And if these posts are based on inaccurate information, it makes us more upset. So you shouldn't be offended when we call a lie a lie.

I would add that it takes a heck of a lot nerve to say a bunch of terrible things about our children and us and then - when we try to explain to you how we view Hardy - tell us that we are the reason that IB families feel unwelcome there.

Thanks for your response. I understand what you are saying, but I don't understand the answer I got to my previous post (the one of 12:34pm) I didn't say anything wrong about the school. In fact, what I said is that is the one who responded was a Hardy parent trying to clear the image of the school the way it was done was not, in my opinion, the most appropriate manner.
And let me clarify, I don't know if what the PP said is a lie or not, but saying it is a lie, just like that without any info about it and mentioning her/his kids is aggressive in my eyes. I am not offended. At all. I am just surprised.
Moreover, and on the same token, you know your school, so why getting so sensitive about it then? I understand your point, as I said before, but I don't think is worth to the point of loosing your politeness or your well manners.
Again, I am definitely not trying to offend you. If anything I have said has done that, I apologize in advance (and I am not being sarcastic)