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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these posters who are not listening to people who have a thin child and a husky child who are fed the same and are equally active; especially the ones who think the answer is to give even less nutrition to the husky child as if food intake is the problem. Read up people; your luck in life is not all to your merit.

Husky is not necessarily obese - but it could be. Parents have gotten the message that they must feed their children without limit. Ellen Satter says so. If it's healthy, then a third serving is fine, amirite?

No. I'm saying kids are husky even when they are just having the correct proportioned healthy meals, and no seconds, thirds, and desserts. If people keep denying this, we will never get to the core of what is happening here.

JFC. If a kid is obese (or whatever adorable euphemism you want to use instead) then that kid is NOT being served “correct proportioned healthy meals” - even if the exact same meal IS the “correct proportioned healthy meal” for obese kid’s sibling. They are DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Why are so many of you having such a difficult time with this? Do you also find it confusing that the typical wife can’t eat the same amount of food as the typical husband without getting fat?

Why are you having such a difficult time understanding that serving one child standard portions while serving their sibling a fraction of the same things might not be feasible?

It’s not just infeasible, it’s against current research and creates unhealthy eating patterns.

What? Feeding one’s toddler and one’s teenager (or one’s 6’ tall son and 5’ tall daughter) different amounts of food is “against current research” you say? Please provide links, these studies should be absolutely fascinating!

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these posters who are not listening to people who have a thin child and a husky child who are fed the same and are equally active; especially the ones who think the answer is to give even less nutrition to the husky child as if food intake is the problem. Read up people; your luck in life is not all to your merit.

Husky is not necessarily obese - but it could be. Parents have gotten the message that they must feed their children without limit. Ellen Satter says so. If it's healthy, then a third serving is fine, amirite?

No. I'm saying kids are husky even when they are just having the correct proportioned healthy meals, and no seconds, thirds, and desserts. If people keep denying this, we will never get to the core of what is happening here.

JFC. If a kid is obese (or whatever adorable euphemism you want to use instead) then that kid is NOT being served “correct proportioned healthy meals” - even if the exact same meal IS the “correct proportioned healthy meal” for obese kid’s sibling. They are DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Why are so many of you having such a difficult time with this? Do you also find it confusing that the typical wife can’t eat the same amount of food as the typical husband without getting fat?

Why are you having such a difficult time understanding that serving one child standard portions while serving their sibling a fraction of the same things might not be feasible?

It’s not just infeasible, it’s against current research and creates unhealthy eating patterns.

What? Feeding one’s toddler and one’s teenager (or one’s 6’ tall son and 5’ tall daughter) different amounts of food is “against current research” you say? Please provide links, these studies should be absolutely fascinating!

I guess you think that’s such a gotcha but if you are portioning your teens food and making a show of determining their different portions, then yeah that’s weird

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these posters who are not listening to people who have a thin child and a husky child who are fed the same and are equally active; especially the ones who think the answer is to give even less nutrition to the husky child as if food intake is the problem. Read up people; your luck in life is not all to your merit.

Husky is not necessarily obese - but it could be. Parents have gotten the message that they must feed their children without limit. Ellen Satter says so. If it's healthy, then a third serving is fine, amirite?

No. I'm saying kids are husky even when they are just having the correct proportioned healthy meals, and no seconds, thirds, and desserts. If people keep denying this, we will never get to the core of what is happening here.

JFC. If a kid is obese (or whatever adorable euphemism you want to use instead) then that kid is NOT being served “correct proportioned healthy meals” - even if the exact same meal IS the “correct proportioned healthy meal” for obese kid’s sibling. They are DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Why are so many of you having such a difficult time with this? Do you also find it confusing that the typical wife can’t eat the same amount of food as the typical husband without getting fat?

Ok, I call troll, but A+ for effort 🤣

And on the off chance you're not a troll, I’m beyond thankful you’re not my husband.

Unless you and your husband are the same size, it is pretty reasonable to imagine most husbands eat more than most wives. Do you really think that say, a 5 ft 2 120 pound woman and a 6 ft tall man weighing 190 would eat the same amount?

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these posters who are not listening to people who have a thin child and a husky child who are fed the same and are equally active; especially the ones who think the answer is to give even less nutrition to the husky child as if food intake is the problem. Read up people; your luck in life is not all to your merit.

Husky is not necessarily obese - but it could be. Parents have gotten the message that they must feed their children without limit. Ellen Satter says so. If it's healthy, then a third serving is fine, amirite?

No. I'm saying kids are husky even when they are just having the correct proportioned healthy meals, and no seconds, thirds, and desserts. If people keep denying this, we will never get to the core of what is happening here.

JFC. If a kid is obese (or whatever adorable euphemism you want to use instead) then that kid is NOT being served “correct proportioned healthy meals” - even if the exact same meal IS the “correct proportioned healthy meal” for obese kid’s sibling. They are DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Why are so many of you having such a difficult time with this? Do you also find it confusing that the typical wife can’t eat the same amount of food as the typical husband without getting fat?

Why are you having such a difficult time understanding that serving one child standard portions while serving their sibling a fraction of the same things might not be feasible?

It’s not just infeasible, it’s against current research and creates unhealthy eating patterns.

What? Feeding one’s toddler and one’s teenager (or one’s 6’ tall son and 5’ tall daughter) different amounts of food is “against current research” you say? Please provide links, these studies should be absolutely fascinating!

I guess you think that’s such a gotcha but if you are portioning your teens food and making a show of determining their different portions, then yeah that’s weird

It’s not meant to be a “gotcha”. I am legitimately not understanding why so many of you are apparently so confused that different people (even siblings!) have entirely different caloric requirements and therefore it is *inappropriate* to feed them the exact same thing.

Do you also think that EVERYONE is “supposed” to eat 2000 calories per day? Do you think every woman has a 28-day menstrual cycle? Do you think every person has a body temperature of exactly 98.6 degrees? Seriously, what is your mental block here?

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these posters who are not listening to people who have a thin child and a husky child who are fed the same and are equally active; especially the ones who think the answer is to give even less nutrition to the husky child as if food intake is the problem. Read up people; your luck in life is not all to your merit.

Husky is not necessarily obese - but it could be. Parents have gotten the message that they must feed their children without limit. Ellen Satter says so. If it's healthy, then a third serving is fine, amirite?

No. I'm saying kids are husky even when they are just having the correct proportioned healthy meals, and no seconds, thirds, and desserts. If people keep denying this, we will never get to the core of what is happening here.

JFC. If a kid is obese (or whatever adorable euphemism you want to use instead) then that kid is NOT being served “correct proportioned healthy meals” - even if the exact same meal IS the “correct proportioned healthy meal” for obese kid’s sibling. They are DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Why are so many of you having such a difficult time with this? Do you also find it confusing that the typical wife can’t eat the same amount of food as the typical husband without getting fat?

Why are you having such a difficult time understanding that serving one child standard portions while serving their sibling a fraction of the same things might not be feasible?

It’s not just infeasible, it’s against current research and creates unhealthy eating patterns.

What? Feeding one’s toddler and one’s teenager (or one’s 6’ tall son and 5’ tall daughter) different amounts of food is “against current research” you say? Please provide links, these studies should be absolutely fascinating!

I guess you think that’s such a gotcha but if you are portioning your teens food and making a show of determining their different portions, then yeah that’s weird

It’s not meant to be a “gotcha”. I am legitimately not understanding why so many of you are apparently so confused that different people (even siblings!) have entirely different caloric requirements and therefore it is *inappropriate* to feed them the exact same thing.

Do you also think that EVERYONE is “supposed” to eat 2000 calories per day? Do you think every woman has a 28-day menstrual cycle? Do you think every person has a body temperature of exactly 98.6 degrees? Seriously, what is your mental block here?

Yeah I think you’ve missed the point of the conversation you’re responding to

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these posters who are not listening to people who have a thin child and a husky child who are fed the same and are equally active; especially the ones who think the answer is to give even less nutrition to the husky child as if food intake is the problem. Read up people; your luck in life is not all to your merit.

Husky is not necessarily obese - but it could be. Parents have gotten the message that they must feed their children without limit. Ellen Satter says so. If it's healthy, then a third serving is fine, amirite?

No. I'm saying kids are husky even when they are just having the correct proportioned healthy meals, and no seconds, thirds, and desserts. If people keep denying this, we will never get to the core of what is happening here.

JFC. If a kid is obese (or whatever adorable euphemism you want to use instead) then that kid is NOT being served “correct proportioned healthy meals” - even if the exact same meal IS the “correct proportioned healthy meal” for obese kid’s sibling. They are DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Why are so many of you having such a difficult time with this? Do you also find it confusing that the typical wife can’t eat the same amount of food as the typical husband without getting fat?

Why are you having such a difficult time understanding that serving one child standard portions while serving their sibling a fraction of the same things might not be feasible?

It’s not just infeasible, it’s against current research and creates unhealthy eating patterns.

What? Feeding one’s toddler and one’s teenager (or one’s 6’ tall son and 5’ tall daughter) different amounts of food is “against current research” you say? Please provide links, these studies should be absolutely fascinating!

I guess you think that’s such a gotcha but if you are portioning your teens food and making a show of determining their different portions, then yeah that’s weird

It’s not meant to be a “gotcha”. I am legitimately not understanding why so many of you are apparently so confused that different people (even siblings!) have entirely different caloric requirements and therefore it is *inappropriate* to feed them the exact same thing.

Do you also think that EVERYONE is “supposed” to eat 2000 calories per day? Do you think every woman has a 28-day menstrual cycle? Do you think every person has a body temperature of exactly 98.6 degrees? Seriously, what is your mental block here?

Yeah I think you’ve missed the point of the conversation you’re responding to

Apparently. What is the point?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is off the rails. It was answered early on that we have many environmental factors disrupting our endocrine systems nowadays. People are more interested in touting their virtue and ability to cook wholesome meals at any budget.

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Wholesome meals are nice but they, or their lack, aren't the reason that some kids are skinny and some kids are thick. It's partly genetics and food abundance (or a coping mechanism for abuse) but it's mostly an endocrine/metabolism issue caused by environmental factors, particularly pervasive antibiotics but also microplastics and probably others.

Agree and also, trauma and stress are huge determinants.

Holy cow you people are insane, no wonder we have the obesity epidemic we do. No, the average overweight elementary-aged kid has not been exposed to enough trauma, abuse, or “endocrine disrupters” in their 8 short years to cause their obesity. It’s the parents. Clearly! As evidenced by this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach in a high poverty school and by 5th-6th grade, nearly every student is overweight. It's sad. Some of them stayed overweight as they grew but some of them were a normal weight and then just packed on the pounds.

Schools are a huge part of the problem. Our high poverty school has free breakfast and lunch for all. It’s all garbage food. Considering the high obesity rate-kids aren’t starving, they are overfed. Schools need to keep it simple, have a couple heathy options and that is it. White milk, apples, peanut butter/cold cut sandwich. And no chips/candy as prizes and incentives for everything

You just made it clear you don't actually understand what food insecurity is like. It is not wasting away into thinness. It is the inability to afford healthy food. That can come with a lack of TIME as well. Shopping, cooking and food prep takes time, which many struggling families don't have. Have you ever thought about what the food in your house would look like if you have to take public transportation to collect it?

It is not simply "lazy poor parents feed their kids chips and soda all the time". It's much more complicated than that. But it gets you all off the hook to vote for people who might actually HELP these children if you can just blame their lazy, fat parents.

No, sorry, that is BS. Basics are cheap. Eggs, milk, oatmeal, beans are cheap. Immigrants and poor people in less developed countries manage to cook basic simple food on a tight budget. But American poor people can’t manage this. Easier to hit up the drive thru. It’s easy to eat a lot of junk when using the government money and free school food

I don’t know. I remember around 2008 when the housing crisis hit and my husband lost his company and left with some big debt. I could no longer go to the store and just buy groceries without looking at the prices. One time, and I’ll never forget it, I had $18 and some change to get two or three days worth of food. The generic whole wheat bread was twice as expensive as the generic white bread so I got the cheap white bread. I had to think of food that fills a stomach not quality food. Basic pasta with cheap tomato sauce, they had buy one hot dog pack get one free. No snacks or deserts. No fresh vegetables.

This lasted about three months of a very limited budget. I can’t imagine a lifetime. I suppose there are smart cooks out there who can take the basics and make something appetizing out of it but I couldn’t.

Poor quality low nutrient food can absolutely negatively impact your health in the long term. It will NOT, however, make you obese. Unless you eat TOO MUCH of it. Unless you think that a slice of white bread contains substantially more calories than wheat bread? (Hint: it doesn’t- maybe 10-20 calories per slice depending on the brand.)

There are foods that low income people count on that have a high caloric count. My small example was about poor quality food not excessive calories but I can see how that could happen over a long period of time. I know quite a few families from South America who are living in this country, some illegally, some not. They are all in good shape, not overweight. It’s more of an American problem not a genetic one.

You’ve never seen a fat Mexican ?

I don’t know anyone from Mexico. I’m not saying South Americans are all thin (Mexicans don’t come from South America). I’m just saying that low income doesn't always equal overweight.

How do you not know anyone from Mexico? What kind of rock do you live under?

I don’t know anyone personally from Mexico that I can think of. I have family members and friends from Puerto Rico, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, but no Mexican friends.

It doesn’t have to be friends. You apparently have never met anyone from Mexico. Bizarre.

My post was about friends and families, I wasn’t discussing people I don’t know well enough about know anything about their backgrounds.

Why, do you know a lot of Mexicans or are you Mexican? Do you have anything to add about people growing up in Mexico or recent immigrants?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is off the rails. It was answered early on that we have many environmental factors disrupting our endocrine systems nowadays. People are more interested in touting their virtue and ability to cook wholesome meals at any budget.

+1

Wholesome meals are nice but they, or their lack, aren't the reason that some kids are skinny and some kids are thick. It's partly genetics and food abundance (or a coping mechanism for abuse) but it's mostly an endocrine/metabolism issue caused by environmental factors, particularly pervasive antibiotics but also microplastics and probably others.

Agree and also, trauma and stress are huge determinants.

Holy cow you people are insane, no wonder we have the obesity epidemic we do. No, the average overweight elementary-aged kid has not been exposed to enough trauma, abuse, or “endocrine disrupters” in their 8 short years to cause their obesity. It’s the parents. Clearly! As evidenced by this thread.

Endocrine disrupters are everywhere. But the solution is the same (clean diet, minimize exposure generally).

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Anonymous wrote:All the posters who are saying something along the lines of, “I let my kids eat whatever they want and they are still thin, I don’t understand how it’s possible for any kid to be overweight or obese” are in for a rude awakening when your kids head off to college. Armed without any substantive nutritional knowledge, 99% of the time these are the people who end up really struggling with their weight as adults.

I would kind of describe my family that way, but I think a lot of well-off/well-educated families just naturally have patterns where they eat meals together as a family, they have time to cook real food, days have structure and routine, kids go to bed at a specific time. Our kids go to camps in the summer where they are supervised and there are "snack times." We have healthy food in the pantry and the fridge along with junk food, and kids are used to eating both. My kids never drank a lot of soda or juice and now as older kids, 2 of the 3 largely prefer milk and water, even when offered soda. It is a much different reality from families that don't have any of these habits or patterns.

Why do so many of you people attribute your habits as the perfect housewife because you’re well-off/well-educated. It’s embarrassing. Many families regardless of their income have kids and parents with wildly different schedules. People with jobs sometimes travel or work long hours. Kids have activities that are scheduled through dinner time, even some for younger kids. And how about all those athletes with practices and games after school? STFU with your well educated people just naturally have patterns.

Yikes. The fact that you are shuttling your kids around to multiple sport practices means you are in the "well-off" group (You are describing routine, scheduled activities (which presumably take place after a school day that your child reliably attends) that are available to people with time and money and are designed for the enrichment/benefit of the children). I'm not sure why you are being defensive or "embarrassed."

I was embarrassed for the poster’s smug feeling of superiority in claiming that the well off/educated “naturally have patterns” that people not like us just don’t have. How does someone come up with that? It’s not true.

I guess I don’t understand what people mean when they use the term “well-off”. I assume it includes middle class incomes and higher. So she’s assuming that lower income people don’t have that natural ability to all eat together and have a strict schedule.

This goes across all incomes. I’m one of those people who doesn’t have a circle of people who are clones of each other. Everyone’s different with different priorities and different income levels. Most of my friends don’t work outside the home. Some do. Some are able to have a pretty stable schedule, most don’t. Working parents can’t always get home for dinner.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach in a high poverty school and by 5th-6th grade, nearly every student is overweight. It's sad. Some of them stayed overweight as they grew but some of them were a normal weight and then just packed on the pounds.

Schools are a huge part of the problem. Our high poverty school has free breakfast and lunch for all. It’s all garbage food. Considering the high obesity rate-kids aren’t starving, they are overfed. Schools need to keep it simple, have a couple heathy options and that is it. White milk, apples, peanut butter/cold cut sandwich. And no chips/candy as prizes and incentives for everything

You just made it clear you don't actually understand what food insecurity is like. It is not wasting away into thinness. It is the inability to afford healthy food. That can come with a lack of TIME as well. Shopping, cooking and food prep takes time, which many struggling families don't have. Have you ever thought about what the food in your house would look like if you have to take public transportation to collect it?

It is not simply "lazy poor parents feed their kids chips and soda all the time". It's much more complicated than that. But it gets you all off the hook to vote for people who might actually HELP these children if you can just blame their lazy, fat parents.

No, sorry, that is BS. Basics are cheap. Eggs, milk, oatmeal, beans are cheap. Immigrants and poor people in less developed countries manage to cook basic simple food on a tight budget. But American poor people can’t manage this. Easier to hit up the drive thru. It’s easy to eat a lot of junk when using the government money and free school food

I don’t know. I remember around 2008 when the housing crisis hit and my husband lost his company and left with some big debt. I could no longer go to the store and just buy groceries without looking at the prices. One time, and I’ll never forget it, I had $18 and some change to get two or three days worth of food. The generic whole wheat bread was twice as expensive as the generic white bread so I got the cheap white bread. I had to think of food that fills a stomach not quality food. Basic pasta with cheap tomato sauce, they had buy one hot dog pack get one free. No snacks or deserts. No fresh vegetables.

This lasted about three months of a very limited budget. I can’t imagine a lifetime. I suppose there are smart cooks out there who can take the basics and make something appetizing out of it but I couldn’t.

Poor quality low nutrient food can absolutely negatively impact your health in the long term. It will NOT, however, make you obese. Unless you eat TOO MUCH of it. Unless you think that a slice of white bread contains substantially more calories than wheat bread? (Hint: it doesn’t- maybe 10-20 calories per slice depending on the brand.)

There are foods that low income people count on that have a high caloric count. My small example was about poor quality food not excessive calories but I can see how that could happen over a long period of time. I know quite a few families from South America who are living in this country, some illegally, some not. They are all in good shape, not overweight. It’s more of an American problem not a genetic one.

You’ve never seen a fat Mexican ?

I don’t know anyone from Mexico. I’m not saying South Americans are all thin (Mexicans don’t come from South America). I’m just saying that low income doesn't always equal overweight.

How do you not know anyone from Mexico? What kind of rock do you live under?

I don’t know anyone personally from Mexico that I can think of. I have family members and friends from Puerto Rico, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, but no Mexican friends.

It doesn’t have to be friends. You apparently have never met anyone from Mexico. Bizarre.

My post was about friends and families, I wasn’t discussing people I don’t know well enough about know anything about their backgrounds.

Why, do you know a lot of Mexicans or are you Mexican? Do you have anything to add about people growing up in Mexico or recent immigrants?

You are so weird. Do you live in Montana?

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I’ve already posted but my parents were not well off nor college educated. We ate family meals together and my mom almost always cooked southern style homemade, learned from her mom, aunts and grandmothers. Food was not organic or “clean” and included lots of salt and butter. We also ate a fair amount of Campbell’s soups and canned fruits and vegetables. There were little Debbie snacks in our house and lots of sugary drinks (usually minute made lemonade or fruit punch from frozen concentrate to save money.) We took Capri Suns to school.

However, we were expected to eat “proper” food at regular mealtimes at the table, and there was not much snacking at all. Lots of admonishment to “not spoil your supper!” To this day I do not crave or think about eating between meals. I am still thin, as are my parents and siblings, despite non of us following any modern dietary restrictions such as limiting carbs or dairy or sugar.

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I really truly did test threads like this because you guys have just spent 20 pages ringing your hands about other people's children and their bodies.

You are not in control of other people's bodies. Spending so much time worrying about it is voyeuristic and gross

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Anonymous wrote:I teach in a high poverty school and by 5th-6th grade, nearly every student is overweight. It's sad. Some of them stayed overweight as they grew but some of them were a normal weight and then just packed on the pounds.

Schools are a huge part of the problem. Our high poverty school has free breakfast and lunch for all. It’s all garbage food. Considering the high obesity rate-kids aren’t starving, they are overfed. Schools need to keep it simple, have a couple heathy options and that is it. White milk, apples, peanut butter/cold cut sandwich. And no chips/candy as prizes and incentives for everything

You just made it clear you don't actually understand what food insecurity is like. It is not wasting away into thinness. It is the inability to afford healthy food. That can come with a lack of TIME as well. Shopping, cooking and food prep takes time, which many struggling families don't have. Have you ever thought about what the food in your house would look like if you have to take public transportation to collect it?

It is not simply "lazy poor parents feed their kids chips and soda all the time". It's much more complicated than that. But it gets you all off the hook to vote for people who might actually HELP these children if you can just blame their lazy, fat parents.

No, sorry, that is BS. Basics are cheap. Eggs, milk, oatmeal, beans are cheap. Immigrants and poor people in less developed countries manage to cook basic simple food on a tight budget. But American poor people can’t manage this. Easier to hit up the drive thru. It’s easy to eat a lot of junk when using the government money and free school food

I don’t know. I remember around 2008 when the housing crisis hit and my husband lost his company and left with some big debt. I could no longer go to the store and just buy groceries without looking at the prices. One time, and I’ll never forget it, I had $18 and some change to get two or three days worth of food. The generic whole wheat bread was twice as expensive as the generic white bread so I got the cheap white bread. I had to think of food that fills a stomach not quality food. Basic pasta with cheap tomato sauce, they had buy one hot dog pack get one free. No snacks or deserts. No fresh vegetables.

This lasted about three months of a very limited budget. I can’t imagine a lifetime. I suppose there are smart cooks out there who can take the basics and make something appetizing out of it but I couldn’t.

Poor quality low nutrient food can absolutely negatively impact your health in the long term. It will NOT, however, make you obese. Unless you eat TOO MUCH of it. Unless you think that a slice of white bread contains substantially more calories than wheat bread? (Hint: it doesn’t- maybe 10-20 calories per slice depending on the brand.)

There are foods that low income people count on that have a high caloric count. My small example was about poor quality food not excessive calories but I can see how that could happen over a long period of time. I know quite a few families from South America who are living in this country, some illegally, some not. They are all in good shape, not overweight. It’s more of an American problem not a genetic one.

You’ve never seen a fat Mexican ?

I don’t know anyone from Mexico. I’m not saying South Americans are all thin (Mexicans don’t come from South America). I’m just saying that low income doesn't always equal overweight.

How do you not know anyone from Mexico? What kind of rock do you live under?

I don’t know anyone personally from Mexico that I can think of. I have family members and friends from Puerto Rico, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, but no Mexican friends.

It doesn’t have to be friends. You apparently have never met anyone from Mexico. Bizarre.

My post was about friends and families, I wasn’t discussing people I don’t know well enough about know anything about their backgrounds.

Why, do you know a lot of Mexicans or are you Mexican? Do you have anything to add about people growing up in Mexico or recent immigrants?

You are so weird. Do you live in Montana?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:I really truly did test threads like this because you guys have just spent 20 pages ringing your hands about other people's children and their bodies.

You are not in control of other people's bodies. Spending so much time worrying about it is voyeuristic and gross

Voyeuristic? 😆