Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?

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Anonymous wrote: I can't remember where i read it, but when this store broke,there was a someone who was quoted as saying that, relationships in these circles are very transactional.And it really hit on what i've long observed about the dynamics of relationships amongst this type of crowd.

Poverty is humiliating,isolating and detrimental to one's overall health.But,as a poor person, if you're lucky enough to have someone who cares for you then you know it's as authentic,genuine and sincere as it gets. The fact that this Brandon Miller guy didn't or thought he couldn't talk about the true state of their finances with his so-called wife is just so.....damning and revelatory of the kind of superficial relationships these people entertain.

I don’t think that’s it at all. When you’re in finance in ny, there are wild swings all the time. Look at some of the most successful real estate funds, and most have had moments when they’ve been underwater. Many of the successful managers are former athletes, across the board they’re either very cocky or on the spectrum. They always think there’s the next big thing and they usually have to double down to get there. I’ve seen some wild rides. Obviously they don’t usually end like this, but if every manager gave up when he was down, a lot of funds would fold. This one is more complicated w/ being the second generation, but look how he went after a bigger project when he was in debt. That’s what they do. It just generally doesn’t carry over into extremes in personal spending.
Nothing about their lifestyle was equal to the size of their fund, even if it had been successful. She was spending as if he were a manager at tiger or citadel, not some run of the mill 2nd tier RE fund.

Couple of things

-why didn't or couldn't he tell the wife their lifestyle wasn't sustainable in the short,medium or long term?

- The description of the NY real estate industry doesn't apply to him—he was never even a medium player, not even close.He was at the very bottom of the pole as far as NY real estate is concerned.

- Nothing has described this guy as being in finance. It's been said over and over again that he was in real estate .

He was at his dad’s real estate investment firm. His dad died at an inopportune time where the dad’s business had a lot of debt. Brandon was expecting to inherit 200 million I read, and the dad was in debt and essentially he got nothing. Then COVID happened and killed NYC real estate, especially commercial. They were spending like they were getting a 200mill inheritance and for whatever reason they couldn’t adjust lifestyle once it did not come to fruition. Whatever low 8 figure wealth they had sustained that lifestyle for like 6 years, but it ran out this year and he started swindling his peers, it spiraled over the course of like 6-10 months and ended in his suicide.

This exactly. They were spending as if they were getting the 200m as well as if the fund was successful. There was probably a point where he knew it wasn’t and she absolutely knew, too. No one in that circle rents in the city, and absolutely no one rents furniture from a stager. That circle is all about who did your home. Look at the wife is the friend who intervened. She’s a popular designer in that circle. Candace knew but they probably both thought they were one deal away from being back on the right track. She knew the boat had been repossessed bc she actually tried to charter it to keep in the facade. He wasn’t completely innocent in the spending either. That’s a pretty flashy boat for that level of income.

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Her face really does look insane though. Uncanny valley level.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a coward of the worse kind. Suicide doesn't hurt the person dead it punishes the living. His young daughters will spend the rest of their lives mentally wounded. His wife will spend years trying to did out of this mess and will have to witness the mental anguish of her children. Life will be dark and unhappy for quite some time. As a man he should have owned up to his mistakes. Taken whatever punishment was coming his way and.......started over. That's the beauty of living in this country- you can reinvent yourself as many times as you want. He destroyed his entire family and his death solved nothing. He's a coward.

His death will actually help his daughters. He would have ruined their life. He was a bad person. Now they have a chance to become decent human beings without his toxicity.
He did what was needed. He is not coward.

Nope. He did probably have demons and there’s a history of mental health issues on his side of the family, but her family is awful. Completely vapid social climbers bordering on narcissists. Candace, her mom, sister, aunt, etc are all social climbers and use friends, kids, etc as props to get ahead. Those girls don’t stand a chance stuck with just her family now.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a coward of the worse kind. Suicide doesn't hurt the person dead it punishes the living. His young daughters will spend the rest of their lives mentally wounded. His wife will spend years trying to did out of this mess and will have to witness the mental anguish of her children. Life will be dark and unhappy for quite some time. As a man he should have owned up to his mistakes. Taken whatever punishment was coming his way and.......started over. That's the beauty of living in this country- you can reinvent yourself as many times as you want. He destroyed his entire family and his death solved nothing. He's a coward.

His death will actually help his daughters. He would have ruined their life. He was a bad person. Now they have a chance to become decent human beings without his toxicity.
He did what was needed. He is not coward.

Nope. He did probably have demons and there’s a history of mental health issues on his side of the family, but her family is awful. Completely vapid social climbers bordering on narcissists. Candace, her mom, sister, aunt, etc are all social climbers and use friends, kids, etc as props to get ahead. Those girls don’t stand a chance stuck with just her family now.

Do you know them? Please dish! Dying to know what Candice was like when she was younger.

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Anonymous wrote:Her face really does look insane though. Uncanny valley level.

They used the funniest photo of her in the NYT article. That enormous crazy smile.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a coward of the worse kind. Suicide doesn't hurt the person dead it punishes the living. His young daughters will spend the rest of their lives mentally wounded. His wife will spend years trying to did out of this mess and will have to witness the mental anguish of her children. Life will be dark and unhappy for quite some time. As a man he should have owned up to his mistakes. Taken whatever punishment was coming his way and.......started over. That's the beauty of living in this country- you can reinvent yourself as many times as you want. He destroyed his entire family and his death solved nothing. He's a coward.

His death will actually help his daughters. He would have ruined their life. He was a bad person. Now they have a chance to become decent human beings without his toxicity.
He did what was needed. He is not coward.

Nope. He did probably have demons and there’s a history of mental health issues on his side of the family, but her family is awful. Completely vapid social climbers bordering on narcissists. Candace, her mom, sister, aunt, etc are all social climbers and use friends, kids, etc as props to get ahead. Those girls don’t stand a chance stuck with just her family now.

Maybe, but their chances are still better without him in the picture.

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She still looks good. She won’t have any trouble finding another rich husband. She will write a book. She will be featured in a Netflix piece. She has the fame. A rich guy looking for fame will pick her.
She will be fine.

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You don’t get any life insurance if it’s suicide. That would mean that anyone could take out large amounts and just off theirselves the next day. She won’t get a fine if that life insurance

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get any life insurance if it’s suicide. That would mean that anyone could take out large amounts and just off theirselves the next day. She won’t get a fine if that life insurance

People keep saying that and it’s simply not true. It depends on the policy, but most have a two-year rule for suicide. As long as he took out the policy at least two years before his death, it would likely pay out. He seemed smart enough to check that provision before he ended his life.

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Pos no sympathy

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Anonymous wrote:She still looks good. She won’t have any trouble finding another rich husband. She will write a book. She will be featured in a Netflix piece. She has the fame. A rich guy looking for fame will pick her.
She will be fine.

I'm sure that there are tons of wealthy men in their mid/late 40s who are lining up to marry her

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get any life insurance if it’s suicide. That would mean that anyone could take out large amounts and just off theirselves the next day. She won’t get a fine if that life insurance

People keep saying that and it’s simply not true. It depends on the policy, but most have a two-year rule for suicide. As long as he took out the policy at least two years before his death, it would likely pay out. He seemed smart enough to check that provision before he ended his life.

Yes. Everyone keeps repeating it because they're probably used to cases where someone buys a life insurance plan intending to commit suicide and then tries to make it look like not suicide so their family can collect. It's completely different if you had a plan for 2+ years and just happen to commit suicide sometime thereafter. Some investors require principals to have life insurance, so he probably had it for his job for years and years (it's also much cheaper if you buy it young), long before he ever contemplated suicide. It's not the same thing and it will almost certainly pay out.

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My friend was going through a divorce and her stbx died by suicide. They got his life insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:She still looks good. She won’t have any trouble finding another rich husband. She will write a book. She will be featured in a Netflix piece. She has the fame. A rich guy looking for fame will pick her.
She will be fine.

I'm sure that there are tons of wealthy men in their mid/late 40s who are lining up to marry her

Right??? She’s in her 40s, has kids, doesn’t have her own money, no career/income stream, and everyone thinks she drove her husband to suicide with her spending (despite her protests, we all saw her spending on instagram). Who will marry her with that sort of baggage? A wealthy man could have someone younger, more attractive, and less infamous.

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It would be weird imo if life insurance DIDNT cover suicide. It’s for the survivors, not the deceased.