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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

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See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

The PP probably means exactly what was written. Stop letting students harm teachers. Harming an adult doesn’t mean the student is suspended as a result.

As a parent, I don't want my kid in a class with someone that has harmed a teacher and I think the majority would agree with me. So if a kid has actually harmed a teacher, why are there no consequences? This is what I don't understand. So for instance, a kid throws something at or hits a teacher intentionally, are you saying that nothing happens and the kid just returns to school the next day?

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

The PP probably means exactly what was written. Stop letting students harm teachers. Harming an adult doesn’t mean the student is suspended as a result.

As a parent, I don't want my kid in a class with someone that has harmed a teacher and I think the majority would agree with me. So if a kid has actually harmed a teacher, why are there no consequences? This is what I don't understand. So for instance, a kid throws something at or hits a teacher intentionally, are you saying that nothing happens and the kid just returns to school the next day?

I didn’t say that, but yes, that happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

The PP probably means exactly what was written. Stop letting students harm teachers. Harming an adult doesn’t mean the student is suspended as a result.

As a parent, I don't want my kid in a class with someone that has harmed a teacher and I think the majority would agree with me. So if a kid has actually harmed a teacher, why are there no consequences? This is what I don't understand. So for instance, a kid throws something at or hits a teacher intentionally, are you saying that nothing happens and the kid just returns to school the next day?

I didn’t say that, but yes, that happens.

It depends on the case but if there is no marks/injuries I would say that is typically the case, but it really depends on the circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

If I was teaching and a kid hit me, I would refuse to go back until the kid was not in my class any more. if enough teachers did this, then I suspect something would have to be done.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

If I was teaching and a kid hit me, I would refuse to go back until the kid was not in my class any more. if enough teachers did this, then I suspect something would have to be done.

At best they will become another teachers problem and you now have a bad relationship with admin and potentially the other teacher that now has that child.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

If I was teaching and a kid hit me, I would refuse to go back until the kid was not in my class any more. if enough teachers did this, then I suspect something would have to be done.

In theory, you're right. In practice, bills don't pay themselves and most administrators are not your friends. Look at how this has played out in Newport News. A student who had been physically violent toward staff in the past flashed a gun to a classmate. The teachers who reported him were ignored by their admin. He then shot his teacher and the school district is trying to claim it's an expected hazard that comes with the job.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

If I was teaching and a kid hit me, I would refuse to go back until the kid was not in my class any more. if enough teachers did this, then I suspect something would have to be done.

It’s true that teachers are leaving the profession, but it’s also true that it’s taking several months to find another job. They still need a salary.

Violent kids aren’t in every classroom, but closer to 1-2 per school. They’d either fire the teacher or move the kid to another classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

If I was teaching and a kid hit me, I would refuse to go back until the kid was not in my class any more. if enough teachers did this, then I suspect something would have to be done.

It’s true that teachers are leaving the profession, but it’s also true that it’s taking several months to find another job. They still need a salary.

Violent kids aren’t in every classroom, but closer to 1-2 per school. They’d either fire the teacher or move the kid to another classroom.

How can we get the school board to adopt a zero tolerance for violence policy? I once talked to someone that taught at an alternative school. It was privately run and there were several of them. I recall her saying that one was in Alexandria and one in Manassas, I don't recall the name but she told me that it was a year round school and that fcps had a contract with them and would send kids there that had challenges and could not function in a typical school.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

If I was teaching and a kid hit me, I would refuse to go back until the kid was not in my class any more. if enough teachers did this, then I suspect something would have to be done.

It’s true that teachers are leaving the profession, but it’s also true that it’s taking several months to find another job. They still need a salary.

Violent kids aren’t in every classroom, but closer to 1-2 per school. They’d either fire the teacher or move the kid to another classroom.

How can we get the school board to adopt a zero tolerance for violence policy? I once talked to someone that taught at an alternative school. It was privately run and there were several of them. I recall her saying that one was in Alexandria and one in Manassas, I don't recall the name but she told me that it was a year round school and that fcps had a contract with them and would send kids there that had challenges and could not function in a typical school.

All of those schools have waitlists, we can’t just send them there and they start the next day. It takes meetings with the FCPS disciplinary committee and lots of documentation. And if they have an IEP, all of that work times 10.

These aren’t quick fix problems.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

You'd be wrong. That's part of the problem. It is nearly impossible to get a kid "kicked out" of their base school, especially if parents don't agree to a change in placement. Teaching is probably the only job on earth where you're expected to welcome someone who hits, bites, kicks, or threatens you back into the classroom the next day with a smile on your face and pretend like nothing happened. And then you get blamed if it happens again.

Yes, some positions should pay more. Anyone arguing against that hasn't worked in one of the critical shortage areas.

Who decided that this is how it is? I don't want kids that hit,kick, or harm anyone in a class with my kid. There is no place for that in a school.

It’s primary the districts (and laws protecting kids with special needs), but I suspect some portion of parents feel this way - specifically the parents of the children causing harm.

If I was teaching and a kid hit me, I would refuse to go back until the kid was not in my class any more. if enough teachers did this, then I suspect something would have to be done.

It’s true that teachers are leaving the profession, but it’s also true that it’s taking several months to find another job. They still need a salary.

Violent kids aren’t in every classroom, but closer to 1-2 per school. They’d either fire the teacher or move the kid to another classroom.

How can we get the school board to adopt a zero tolerance for violence policy? I once talked to someone that taught at an alternative school. It was privately run and there were several of them. I recall her saying that one was in Alexandria and one in Manassas, I don't recall the name but she told me that it was a year round school and that fcps had a contract with them and would send kids there that had challenges and could not function in a typical school.

All of those schools have waitlists, we can’t just send them there and they start the next day. It takes meetings with the FCPS disciplinary committee and lots of documentation. And if they have an IEP, all of that work times 10.

These aren’t quick fix problems.

Sounds laborious, but no one said next day. I am wondering what schools will do that have many sped vacancies?

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Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

No, kids are not kicked out for harming teachers almost ever. It would have to be incredibly severe, such as breaking an arm or a stabbing to be kicked out. But a kid punching staff won't get them kicked out. Spitting in staff members' faces might be a visit to the office, nothing more. Hitting and kicking staff? Nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It'll go to day to day subs. If none are available, they'll pull ESL teachers, music, art,PE, etc and rotate them on a daily basis.

Ridiculous. Who is to blame for this?

That’s not an easy question to answer: districts, school boards, parents, kids… literally everyone. The educational system is falling apart.

Every single district in the region has openings. I doubt there is a school district in the state that is fully staffed and starting without subs, maybe one of those tiny mountain towns way out west but every district is seeing problems.

Why is no one doing anything about it? Remember when they were low on bus drivers and upped their wages and gave them bonuses? Why not teachers?

$$

See the McDaniel thread re: meals tax

They should be creative and come up with perks for teachers. Perhaps try to attract new teachers to the area by expanding the workforce housing or first time homeowner program to give preference to teachers to get new affordable homes in Fairfax county ?

While I appreciate the sentiment, it will take far, far more than small incentives like that to fix the teacher shortage. Two big things have to happen. One, schools have to STOP letting students harm teachers. Two, teachers in shortage areas need a 25-50% pay increase. Now, I'm a teacher and here's where unions will be a problem. Many teachers believe all teachers should be paid the same. So, paying some teachers more will likely never happen. I'm certified special Ed, and would consider teaching in a sped room for a 75-100% increase in pay. Otherwise, no. But I suspect many teachers would take an open sped position for 25-50% more

What do you mean? I would think harming a teacher would get a kid kicked out of school and sent to an alternate school or worse based on the severity? I certainly would never work somewhere where I did not feel safe.

No, kids are not kicked out for harming teachers almost ever. It would have to be incredibly severe, such as breaking an arm or a stabbing to be kicked out. But a kid punching staff won't get them kicked out. Spitting in staff members' faces might be a visit to the office, nothing more. Hitting and kicking staff? Nothing.

As a teacher I have always believed in free education to anyone and everyone but what I have seen in schools makes me consider putting my own kids in private. The school system needs big changes because it’s running itself into the ground.