APS School Board candidates?

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Anonymous wrote:What is up with Chen Ling's constant posts on AEM? He literally just posted to tell the world that the library has e-books and several other things that it sounds like he just discovered himself. (Umm, yeah, thanks, we knew that.)

So clearly I find this annoying. But, I'm curious, do some people find his posts appealing?


I find it funny that he’s lecturing people who have been APS advocates for years. And watching others shut him down gives me life. He has absolutely no clue. About APS or about how social media even works.


+1

Have a little humility FFS. Many of us have been very engaged/volunteered for 10+ years.


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You can't just burst on the scene and all of a sudden be an expert. If he's going to engage on social media, try to learn something from people who have volunteered for APS (even before the pandemic) before prescribing solutions to everything. As he is seeing, even on his own g-d website, he's getting it mostly wrong. This goes for Zuraya too, but she's not trying to show everyone else up online.





A lot of parents on here with some really fragile egos. Please share where candidates need to line up to kiss the ring.


I guess my standards are just higher than yours. You don't think candidates should put in work and effort before suddenly declaring themselves qualified to govern your kid's school system. I feel differently.



People were pushing Angelo last election. Spare me.


He was infinitely better than the other option. And he didn’t push baseless opinions.
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Anonymous wrote:What is up with Chen Ling's constant posts on AEM? He literally just posted to tell the world that the library has e-books and several other things that it sounds like he just discovered himself. (Umm, yeah, thanks, we knew that.)

So clearly I find this annoying. But, I'm curious, do some people find his posts appealing?


I find it funny that he’s lecturing people who have been APS advocates for years. And watching others shut him down gives me life. He has absolutely no clue. About APS or about how social media even works.


+1

Have a little humility FFS. Many of us have been very engaged/volunteered for 10+ years.


x1000

You can't just burst on the scene and all of a sudden be an expert. If he's going to engage on social media, try to learn something from people who have volunteered for APS (even before the pandemic) before prescribing solutions to everything. As he is seeing, even on his own g-d website, he's getting it mostly wrong. This goes for Zuraya too, but she's not trying to show everyone else up online.





A lot of parents on here with some really fragile egos. Please share where candidates need to line up to kiss the ring.


I guess my standards are just higher than yours. You don't think candidates should put in work and effort before suddenly declaring themselves qualified to govern your kid's school system. I feel differently.



People were pushing Angelo last election. Spare me.


He was infinitely better than the other option. And he didn’t push baseless opinions.


+1. I didn't love him at all, but he was the best of the 2 bad choices.
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Anonymous wrote:What is up with Chen Ling's constant posts on AEM? He literally just posted to tell the world that the library has e-books and several other things that it sounds like he just discovered himself. (Umm, yeah, thanks, we knew that.)

So clearly I find this annoying. But, I'm curious, do some people find his posts appealing?


I find it funny that he’s lecturing people who have been APS advocates for years. And watching others shut him down gives me life. He has absolutely no clue. About APS or about how social media even works.


+1

Have a little humility FFS. Many of us have been very engaged/volunteered for 10+ years.


x1000

You can't just burst on the scene and all of a sudden be an expert. If he's going to engage on social media, try to learn something from people who have volunteered for APS (even before the pandemic) before prescribing solutions to everything. As he is seeing, even on his own g-d website, he's getting it mostly wrong. This goes for Zuraya too, but she's not trying to show everyone else up online.





A lot of parents on here with some really fragile egos. Please share where candidates need to line up to kiss the ring.


I guess my standards are just higher than yours. You don't think candidates should put in work and effort before suddenly declaring themselves qualified to govern your kid's school system. I feel differently.



People were pushing Angelo last election. Spare me.


He was infinitely better than the other option. And he didn’t push baseless opinions.


+1. I didn't love him at all, but he was the best of the 2 bad choices.


Thank god no one listens to anons on DCUM. APS is broke and needs adults at the table.
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Anonymous wrote:What is up with Chen Ling's constant posts on AEM? He literally just posted to tell the world that the library has e-books and several other things that it sounds like he just discovered himself. (Umm, yeah, thanks, we knew that.)

So clearly I find this annoying. But, I'm curious, do some people find his posts appealing?


I find it funny that he’s lecturing people who have been APS advocates for years. And watching others shut him down gives me life. He has absolutely no clue. About APS or about how social media even works.


+1

Have a little humility FFS. Many of us have been very engaged/volunteered for 10+ years.


x1000

You can't just burst on the scene and all of a sudden be an expert. If he's going to engage on social media, try to learn something from people who have volunteered for APS (even before the pandemic) before prescribing solutions to everything. As he is seeing, even on his own g-d website, he's getting it mostly wrong. This goes for Zuraya too, but she's not trying to show everyone else up online.





A lot of parents on here with some really fragile egos. Please share where candidates need to line up to kiss the ring.


I guess my standards are just higher than yours. You don't think candidates should put in work and effort before suddenly declaring themselves qualified to govern your kid's school system. I feel differently.



People were pushing Angelo last election. Spare me.


Only because they hated Miranda so much and those were the only two choice.


Chen should have run last year. He would have won. Both candidates were so unappealing.
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Anonymous wrote:What is up with Chen Ling's constant posts on AEM? He literally just posted to tell the world that the library has e-books and several other things that it sounds like he just discovered himself. (Umm, yeah, thanks, we knew that.)

So clearly I find this annoying. But, I'm curious, do some people find his posts appealing?


I find it funny that he’s lecturing people who have been APS advocates for years. And watching others shut him down gives me life. He has absolutely no clue. About APS or about how social media even works.


+1

Have a little humility FFS. Many of us have been very engaged/volunteered for 10+ years.




x1000

You can't just burst on the scene and all of a sudden be an expert. If he's going to engage on social media, try to learn something from people who have volunteered for APS (even before the pandemic) before prescribing solutions to everything. As he is seeing, even on his own g-d website, he's getting it mostly wrong. This goes for Zuraya too, but she's not trying to show everyone else up online.





A lot of parents on here with some really fragile egos. Please share where candidates need to line up to kiss the ring.


I guess my standards are just higher than yours. You don't think candidates should put in work and effort before suddenly declaring themselves qualified to govern your kid's school system. I feel differently.



People were pushing Angelo last election. Spare me.


He was infinitely better than the other option. And he didn’t push baseless opinions.


+1. I didn't love him at all, but he was the best of the 2 bad choices.


Thank god no one listens to anons on DCUM. APS is broke and needs adults at the table.


Both candidates were AWFUL last time. Where were the responsible adults?
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Anonymous wrote:CL, if you're still on here, what does this mean? "Reaffirm high expectations for academic performance and behavior across all cross sections of the student body and put the supports in place for students to live up to those high expectations."


Good question. "High expectations" sounds like someone who is good with suspending more special needs and Black students.


To be clear, “ High expectations” is a bad thing now ? Are we ok with Kenmore Middle talking about high expectations? Because here it is on APS website : https://kenmore.apsva.us/about/higher-expectations/


Of course high expectations are not a bad thing. The problem is what happens when those high expectations are not met. In some people's world, that means discipline for the black and brown and special needs kids.


Because - other than perhaps some special needs kids - black and brown kids shouldn't be held to those high expectations, or aren't capable of them?


Are you completely unaware in your privileged bubble of the disproportionality in discipline of black kids and especially black boys? which would appear to indicate that they are being held to different standards?


Lowering standards isn't the answer. Fixing the problem of not enforcing and disciplining consistently across student groups is.


Something tells me you have no idea how hard this is to fix and have never engaged in this work. You probably oppose DEI too!


You have no clue who I am or what I've done. Disagreeing with you on what "equity" is and how to address it does not make me ignorant, inexperienced, or in opposition to DEI.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is up with Chen Ling's constant posts on AEM? He literally just posted to tell the world that the library has e-books and several other things that it sounds like he just discovered himself. (Umm, yeah, thanks, we knew that.)

So clearly I find this annoying. But, I'm curious, do some people find his posts appealing?


I find it funny that he’s lecturing people who have been APS advocates for years. And watching others shut him down gives me life. He has absolutely no clue. About APS or about how social media even works.


+1

Have a little humility FFS. Many of us have been very engaged/volunteered for 10+ years.




x1000

You can't just burst on the scene and all of a sudden be an expert. If he's going to engage on social media, try to learn something from people who have volunteered for APS (even before the pandemic) before prescribing solutions to everything. As he is seeing, even on his own g-d website, he's getting it mostly wrong. This goes for Zuraya too, but she's not trying to show everyone else up online.





A lot of parents on here with some really fragile egos. Please share where candidates need to line up to kiss the ring.


I guess my standards are just higher than yours. You don't think candidates should put in work and effort before suddenly declaring themselves qualified to govern your kid's school system. I feel differently.



People were pushing Angelo last election. Spare me.


He was infinitely better than the other option. And he didn’t push baseless opinions.


+1. I didn't love him at all, but he was the best of the 2 bad choices.


Thank god no one listens to anons on DCUM. APS is broke and needs adults at the table.


Both candidates were AWFUL last time. Where were the responsible adults?


Definitely not on DCUM.
Anonymous
I'm just going to gloss over the discussion of Chen's supposed racist comments and just say I'm not voting for the guy. He has no experience. He didn't even live in Arlington until a few years ago.

Zuraya is a smooth talker; who knows how long she'll care about the School Board office.

Kathleen is nice, she has my vote.

Larry is old but he's been a teacher, he can have my second vote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He just needs to edit his statement. If you don’t mean that diversity causes bullying, then say what you want to say in a different way.

Also, after begging AEM to speak at the 2 county board hearings this week, why was he not there?


Omg really? he is just too much!

He was probably hoping no one would call him out on that. You did, good work!
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What a fake
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I'm voting for Patrick Murphy.
ChenLing
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Hi everyone. Sorry I've been unable to answer questions here. I'll try to reply to the many responses when I can.

I also would encourage everyone that are interested to attend the upcoming candidate forums:


  • [*] Saturday 4/13 9:30-11:30am
    Busboys and Poets in Shirlington
    Hosted by Arlington Democrats
    [*] Monday 4/15 6:30-9pm
    Virtual Forum (https://us06web.zoom.us/.../tZAsdOyvqjkuG91CTql2z2exTn0On...)
    Hosted by NAACP Arlington
    [*] Tuesday 4/16 7-8:30pm
    Arlington Mill Community Center
    Hosted by Arlington Young Democrats
    Recording will be available afterwards
    [*] Sunday 4/21 2-3:30pm
    Virtual: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82515053277...
    Hosted by Arlington Democrats Disabilities Caucus
    [*] Tuesday 4/23 3-4:30pm
    Virtual: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84727931306
    Hosted by the Arlington Chamber of Commerce
    [*] Wednesday 4/24 6:30-8:30pm
    Lubber Run Community Center, Oak Room
    Hosted by the Arlington Civic Federation and the League of Women Voters


  • Also, registration for the Caucus is open. You can get more information here: https://www.arlingtondemocrats.org/sbev2024

    I encourage everyone to vote -- whether you vote for me or not -- our public schools are too important to just discuss on forums. Turnout last year was abysmal. I will work to make sure that the community is engaged, and to make APS as successful as it can be.

    If you have any direction questions, please email me at info@chen4arlington.org. I'll respond faster there.

    Thanks!
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    Anonymous wrote:Chen Ling is commenting on Facebook now. His comments are very naive.


    Commenting where? Please give an example of how he's naive.


    Although his kids appear to be preschool/early elementary, he said, on a thread about cell phones, that when his kids are teenagers they won't be addicted to screens because he will make sure they only have flip phones

    A parent of young kids telling parents of teenagers how to parent teenagers is second only to non-parents telling parents how to parent in terms of naivete--or maybe its worse, because if you are a parent, you should know what you don't know


    Only naivete there, if he's a strong parent who actually adheres to his values and rules instead of caving like most, is assuming flip phones will still be available when his kids are teens. One can only hope that limited-capability phones do indeed become more popular over the next several years !


    OK--I still think its a red flag. As a parent of boys, I would never give a girl mom advice on raising girls based on what I think I would do. I know how far I can apply my own experience and when I should listen to others. And since we're talking about someone who wants to be a politician, it matters that he's weighing in on things he hasn't experienced and doesn't have the awareness to recognize that he's not going to be able to dictate what his own kids do, let alone the actions of an entire school system.



    My comments were based on the following:
    1. Phones in schools have been causing problems.
    2. This includes interruptions based on the high number of notifications: https://www.edweek.org/technology/students-get-hundreds-of-notifications-on-their-phones-every-day-even-at-school/2023/09)
    3. Research is showing more and more that social media use seems to be harmful to early teens: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/03/teen-childhood-smartphone-use-mental-health-effects/677722/
    4. Some kids need to be able to contact their parent or caregiver

    #1-3 has generated a lot of no-phone-whatsoever-in-schools.
    I was trying to recommend a compromise (flip phones or the Light Phone) that can accommodate #4.
    There are some inexpensive phones and plans for non-smartphones. The kids can use whatever outside of school, subject to what their parents want.
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    Anonymous wrote:This is direct from Chen Ling's website:"The diversity of backgrounds has the potential to enrich the experience for all children. It also creates risks that children will fall behind or face safety risks due to bullying or juvenile behavior."

    Is he really saying what I think he's saying? Diversity of backgrounds creates safety risks in his world!


    I'm trying to say exactly the opposite of what you're implying. What I'm trying to say (apparently unsuccessfully, and it is clumsily worded), is that right now APS is failing minority students. We need to not only have high expectations for all students, but provide the right support so that all students can be successful. For example, right now APS allows you to retake exams or turn in assignments at the end of the quarter. This benefits students who either already know how to take advantage of these to inflate their grades. Same for the Paper virtual tutoring -- it tends to benefit the already who are already privileged, and fails those students who are actually struggling.
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    Anonymous wrote:This is direct from Chen Ling's website:"The diversity of backgrounds has the potential to enrich the experience for all children. It also creates risks that children will fall behind or face safety risks due to bullying or juvenile behavior."

    Is he really saying what I think he's saying? Diversity of backgrounds creates safety risks in his world!


    As an Asian, there is a lot of antiblackness in our community. Not surprised that Chen says it out loud.

    He may be the candidate for the small vocal AEM crowd, but going to his website is eye opening, so thanks for the prodding. I can’t vote for him.


    I'm trying to say exactly the opposite of what you're implying. What I'm trying to say (apparently unsuccessfully, and it is clumsily worded), is that right now APS is failing minority students. We need to not only have high expectations for all students, but provide the right support so that all students can be successful. For example, right now APS allows you to retake exams or turn in assignments at the end of the quarter. This benefits students who either already know how to take advantage of these to inflate their grades. Same for the Paper virtual tutoring -- it tends to benefit the already who are already privileged, and fails those students who are actually struggling.
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