DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Soaring truancy in DC, yet graduation rates rose? Clown world. What future will these kids have?

It's the Ballou redux.

It’s public education through an “equity lens.”

Ballou’s downfall was throwing a party. They could have kept up their deceit for years, but they rubbed our noses in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


After 150 years, the blood of 600,000 Americans, and $30 Trillion spent on programs a lot of Americans are getting fatigued of hearing your statement. Especially when our borders are bursting with brown and black folks literally risking their lives to come to this country.

Within 15 years after the blood of 600,000 Americans was spilled in the Civil War, Black Americans were relegated to another 100 years of violent oppression and second class citizenship---they were excluded from educational opportunities, union membership, credit opportunities and numerous other mechanisms which caused the immigration waves of the late 19th and early 20th century to attain middle-class status by the 1960s and 70s.

I agree with you that the trillions of dollars spent on programs to remedy past civil rights violations have been ineffective. I would argue that the real focus of those programs should have been, and should be, on rebuilding the social fabric of stability that slavery stripped away. The welfare programs of the 1960s and 70s encouraged single family parent structures and discouraged marriage. Progressives want to hand out money (and excuse criminal behavior) without giving thought on how to instill socially stable behavioral patterns. That's why progressive approaches to systemic racism are useless.

Your heart’s in the right place. But there have been too many excuses for too long. You drive past any construction site in DC and you can see the American dream with your own eyes. It’s alive and well. Newcomers to our country without much of a safety net who look different and don’t speak the language are doing skilled, well paid work. They own property. They may not get to go to college, but their kids darn sure will. It’s the same formula that pulled countless others groups out of poverty. 100 years ago Asians were basically enslaved to build the American west and now their great grandkids should, if we are being honest, be 90% of the kids admitted to Harvard MIT, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


After 150 years, the blood of 600,000 Americans, and $30 Trillion spent on programs a lot of Americans are getting fatigued of hearing your statement. Especially when our borders are bursting with brown and black folks literally risking their lives to come to this country.

Within 15 years after the blood of 600,000 Americans was spilled in the Civil War, Black Americans were relegated to another 100 years of violent oppression and second class citizenship---they were excluded from educational opportunities, union membership, credit opportunities and numerous other mechanisms which caused the immigration waves of the late 19th and early 20th century to attain middle-class status by the 1960s and 70s.

I agree with you that the trillions of dollars spent on programs to remedy past civil rights violations have been ineffective. I would argue that the real focus of those programs should have been, and should be, on rebuilding the social fabric of stability that slavery stripped away. The welfare programs of the 1960s and 70s encouraged single family parent structures and discouraged marriage. Progressives want to hand out money (and excuse criminal behavior) without giving thought on how to instill socially stable behavioral patterns. That's why progressive approaches to systemic racism are useless.

Your heart’s in the right place. But there have been too many excuses for too long. You drive past any construction site in DC and you can see the American dream with your own eyes. It’s alive and well. Newcomers to our country without much of a safety net who look different and don’t speak the language are doing skilled, well paid work. They own property. They may not get to go to college, but their kids darn sure will. It’s the same formula that pulled countless others groups out of poverty. 100 years ago Asians were basically enslaved to build the American west and now their great grandkids should, if we are being honest, be 90% of the kids admitted to Harvard MIT, etc.

So the answer is…there’s something wrong with black people? There isn’t, as we see with black immigrants from other countries. This is obviously an ADOS issue. But as the PP pointed out, nothing that’s been tried thus far has helped.
What is the solution?

[Anonymous]

What is ADOS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


After 150 years, the blood of 600,000 Americans, and $30 Trillion spent on programs a lot of Americans are getting fatigued of hearing your statement. Especially when our borders are bursting with brown and black folks literally risking their lives to come to this country.

Within 15 years after the blood of 600,000 Americans was spilled in the Civil War, Black Americans were relegated to another 100 years of violent oppression and second class citizenship---they were excluded from educational opportunities, union membership, credit opportunities and numerous other mechanisms which caused the immigration waves of the late 19th and early 20th century to attain middle-class status by the 1960s and 70s.

I agree with you that the trillions of dollars spent on programs to remedy past civil rights violations have been ineffective. I would argue that the real focus of those programs should have been, and should be, on rebuilding the social fabric of stability that slavery stripped away. The welfare programs of the 1960s and 70s encouraged single family parent structures and discouraged marriage. Progressives want to hand out money (and excuse criminal behavior) without giving thought on how to instill socially stable behavioral patterns. That's why progressive approaches to systemic racism are useless.

Your heart’s in the right place. But there have been too many excuses for too long. You drive past any construction site in DC and you can see the American dream with your own eyes. It’s alive and well. Newcomers to our country without much of a safety net who look different and don’t speak the language are doing skilled, well paid work. They own property. They may not get to go to college, but their kids darn sure will. It’s the same formula that pulled countless others groups out of poverty. 100 years ago Asians were basically enslaved to build the American west and now their great grandkids should, if we are being honest, be 90% of the kids admitted to Harvard MIT, etc.

So the answer is…there’s something wrong with black people? There isn’t, as we see with black immigrants from other countries. This is obviously an ADOS issue. But as the PP pointed out, nothing that’s been tried thus far has helped.
What is the solution?

As I read through all of the posts on this thread, the government seems like a failed helicopter parent. Overbearing to the degree they take away a person's right to figure life out for themselves. Yes, people are capable. Too many government programs send an opposite message. Maybe it's time back off with all of the support and let folks prove their ability to shine to themselves, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.

+100

This causes gang members to take coats off of others backs by gunpoint?

Nope. Not even on a cold, bad day.

[Anonymous]

Someone in DC leadership needs to have the courage to say that the majority of DCPS students do not have the qualifications to attend a 4 year university and have no business taking out loans to pay for it. DC needs to quickly and robustly support a vocational education program where a lot of kids can make six figures and maybe own their own business in 5 to ten years.

[Anonymous]

First they would have to get the kids back in the school buildings, no?

How many kids are graduated and functionally illiterate?

The current approaches are NOT working.

Vocational ed would sure be better than spending the day carjacking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone in DC leadership needs to have the courage to say that the majority of DCPS students do not have the qualifications to attend a 4 year university and have no business taking out loans to pay for it. DC needs to quickly and robustly support a vocational education program where a lot of kids can make six figures and maybe own their own business in 5 to ten years.

What about UDC, the state university of the District of Columbia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone in DC leadership needs to have the courage to say that the majority of DCPS students do not have the qualifications to attend a 4 year university and have no business taking out loans to pay for it. DC needs to quickly and robustly support a vocational education program where a lot of kids can make six figures and maybe own their own business in 5 to ten years.

+1 Amen!! Many of tbese kids just don't perform that well on academic measures that are verbally oriented but excel on measures that involve visual-spatial, nonverbal reasoning, and tactile-kinesthetic skills. The latter are extremely important in vocational training and coursework.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


After 150 years, the blood of 600,000 Americans, and $30 Trillion spent on programs a lot of Americans are getting fatigued of hearing your statement. Especially when our borders are bursting with brown and black folks literally risking their lives to come to this country.

Within 15 years after the blood of 600,000 Americans was spilled in the Civil War, Black Americans were relegated to another 100 years of violent oppression and second class citizenship---they were excluded from educational opportunities, union membership, credit opportunities and numerous other mechanisms which caused the immigration waves of the late 19th and early 20th century to attain middle-class status by the 1960s and 70s.

I agree with you that the trillions of dollars spent on programs to remedy past civil rights violations have been ineffective. I would argue that the real focus of those programs should have been, and should be, on rebuilding the social fabric of stability that slavery stripped away. The welfare programs of the 1960s and 70s encouraged single family parent structures and discouraged marriage. Progressives want to hand out money (and excuse criminal behavior) without giving thought on how to instill socially stable behavioral patterns. That's why progressive approaches to systemic racism are useless.

Your heart’s in the right place. But there have been too many excuses for too long. You drive past any construction site in DC and you can see the American dream with your own eyes. It’s alive and well. Newcomers to our country without much of a safety net who look different and don’t speak the language are doing skilled, well paid work. They own property. They may not get to go to college, but their kids darn sure will. It’s the same formula that pulled countless others groups out of poverty. 100 years ago Asians were basically enslaved to build the American west and now their great grandkids should, if we are being honest, be 90% of the kids admitted to Harvard MIT, etc.

So the answer is…there’s something wrong with black people? There isn’t, as we see with black immigrants from other countries. This is obviously an ADOS issue. But as the PP pointed out, nothing that’s been tried thus far has helped.
What is the solution?

You're SO close.

[Anonymous]

What is "an ADOS issue?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is "an ADOS issue?"

American Descendants of Slavery

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone in DC leadership needs to have the courage to say that the majority of DCPS students do not have the qualifications to attend a 4 year university and have no business taking out loans to pay for it. DC needs to quickly and robustly support a vocational education program where a lot of kids can make six figures and maybe own their own business in 5 to ten years.

+1 Amen!! Many of tbese kids just don't perform that well on academic measures that are verbally oriented but excel on measures that involve visual-spatial, nonverbal reasoning, and tactile-kinesthetic skills. The latter are extremely important in vocational training and coursework.

Can train in a vocation if you have zero work ethic and the mental ability of a 1st grader

[Anonymous]

*can'T train in a vocation