Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is the same excess of wealth, hubris, and reliance on flawed, yet cutting edge technology that led to the sinking of the Titanic. The parallels give me chills. What an unnecessary nightmare. I hope for a good outcome.

Although well-intentioned, this kind of tourism should stop. The parallels drawn in other posts to Gettysburg, etc., aren't the same because those are far more accessible- no great wealth required.

Why should it stop? These people spent their own money and went in voluntarily having assessed the risks and resolved them to their satisfaction. Presumably, with the kind of money the spent on a frolic, they were pretty sophisticated.

If it turns out they guessed wrong, that’s on them. People have a right to decide things for themselves.

Keep up the extreme tourism if people want, but no public funds should be spent on rescue missions.

We have children and adults in this country that do not have enough food to eat, yet we instead divert funds to the Coast Guard to spend money on rescuing these idiots.

So I will ask again, I take it you don’t think the USCG should rescue crab fisherman either! Nice name calling by the way. I guess those who consume king crab are also idiots.

Apples and oranges, crab fishermen are earning a living. Awful analogy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It is the same excess of wealth, hubris, and reliance on flawed, yet cutting edge technology that led to the sinking of the Titanic. The parallels give me chills. What an unnecessary nightmare. I hope for a good outcome.

Although well-intentioned, this kind of tourism should stop. The parallels drawn in other posts to Gettysburg, etc., aren't the same because those are far more accessible- no great wealth required.

Why should it stop? These people spent their own money and went in voluntarily having assessed the risks and resolved them to their satisfaction. Presumably, with the kind of money the spent on a frolic, they were pretty sophisticated.

If it turns out they guessed wrong, that’s on them. People have a right to decide things for themselves.

Keep up the extreme tourism if people want, but no public funds should be spent on rescue missions.

We have children and adults in this country that do not have enough food to eat, yet we instead divert funds to the Coast Guard to spend money on rescuing these idiots.

So I will ask again, I take it you don’t think the USCG should rescue crab fisherman either! Nice name calling by the way. I guess those who consume king crab are also idiots.

Apples and oranges, crab fishermen are earning a living. Awful analogy

The CEO of OceanGate is onboard - he is (or was) currently earning a living. Who has an awful analogy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is the same excess of wealth, hubris, and reliance on flawed, yet cutting edge technology that led to the sinking of the Titanic. The parallels give me chills. What an unnecessary nightmare. I hope for a good outcome.

Although well-intentioned, this kind of tourism should stop. The parallels drawn in other posts to Gettysburg, etc., aren't the same because those are far more accessible- no great wealth required.

Why should it stop? These people spent their own money and went in voluntarily having assessed the risks and resolved them to their satisfaction. Presumably, with the kind of money the spent on a frolic, they were pretty sophisticated.

If it turns out they guessed wrong, that’s on them. People have a right to decide things for themselves.

Keep up the extreme tourism if people want, but no public funds should be spent on rescue missions.

We have children and adults in this country that do not have enough food to eat, yet we instead divert funds to the Coast Guard to spend money on rescuing these idiots.

So I will ask again, I take it you don’t think the USCG should rescue crab fisherman either! Nice name calling by the way. I guess those who consume king crab are also idiots.

You truly are dumb if you cannot understand the difference between fisherman and this vanity tourism. Stop while you’re ahead because the comparison you “think” you’re making is just embarrassing for you.

Nope they are risking their lives so rich idiots can eat crab legs. Same thing just a different scale. Those fisherman knowingly put their lives at risk to make a buck.

By your logic anyone trying to make a profit shouldn’t be rescued. You are just too stupid to see the parallel!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This parallels the whole Titanic story. It is chilling to think that more people may die because of the Titanic. So sad.

Yeah, but the Titanic disaster was what, 111 years ago? You’d think, and hope, we would have learned a lesson. Maybe respect nature and leave the mass grave alone. Anything controlled by a playstation controller and lacking adequate communication and support from above the surface should be banned, unless you have a death wish.

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading that they have apparently 96hrs of oxygen supply. If the sub still has oxygen. It can’t return to the surface that sounds like a slow and excruciating death.

I hate to say it, but they’re better off being crushed.

Can you explain why they can't resurface? I don't understand.

It’s more that if they haven’t yet, there is probably catastrophic failure preventing it. David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power. If they haven’t AND aren’t communicating, the craft is likely gone or obliterated.

Is it possible it emerged and they haven't located it yet? (ie its floating somewhere and they are trapped inside). Or would that be easy to spot?

One of the rescue planes is looking at the surface for them. So yes, that is the hope - that they have surfaced and are found there.

It is waaaaay to deep to just "re-emerge" . There is no debris field, there is no floating device. This isn't some buoy that just pops to the surface.

We're talking 13,000+ ft where the water pressure and currents are too intense for even military devices to go.

I don't think people understand how deep this is. Or the intense water pressure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is the same excess of wealth, hubris, and reliance on flawed, yet cutting edge technology that led to the sinking of the Titanic. The parallels give me chills. What an unnecessary nightmare. I hope for a good outcome.

Although well-intentioned, this kind of tourism should stop. The parallels drawn in other posts to Gettysburg, etc., aren't the same because those are far more accessible- no great wealth required.

Why should it stop? These people spent their own money and went in voluntarily having assessed the risks and resolved them to their satisfaction. Presumably, with the kind of money the spent on a frolic, they were pretty sophisticated.

If it turns out they guessed wrong, that’s on them. People have a right to decide things for themselves.

Keep up the extreme tourism if people want, but no public funds should be spent on rescue missions.

We have children and adults in this country that do not have enough food to eat, yet we instead divert funds to the Coast Guard to spend money on rescuing these idiots.

So I will ask again, I take it you don’t think the USCG should rescue crab fisherman either! Nice name calling by the way. I guess those who consume king crab are also idiots.

You truly are dumb if you cannot understand the difference between fisherman and this vanity tourism. Stop while you’re ahead because the comparison you “think” you’re making is just embarrassing for you.

Nope they are risking their lives so rich idiots can eat crab legs. Same thing just a different scale. Those fisherman knowingly put their lives at risk to make a buck.

By your logic anyone trying to make a profit shouldn’t be rescued. You are just too stupid to see the parallel!

I miss the good old days when the trolls on this site had at least half a brain unlike the PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is the same excess of wealth, hubris, and reliance on flawed, yet cutting edge technology that led to the sinking of the Titanic. The parallels give me chills. What an unnecessary nightmare. I hope for a good outcome.

Although well-intentioned, this kind of tourism should stop. The parallels drawn in other posts to Gettysburg, etc., aren't the same because those are far more accessible- no great wealth required.

Why should it stop? These people spent their own money and went in voluntarily having assessed the risks and resolved them to their satisfaction. Presumably, with the kind of money the spent on a frolic, they were pretty sophisticated.

If it turns out they guessed wrong, that’s on them. People have a right to decide things for themselves.

Keep up the extreme tourism if people want, but no public funds should be spent on rescue missions.

We have children and adults in this country that do not have enough food to eat, yet we instead divert funds to the Coast Guard to spend money on rescuing these idiots.

So I will ask again, I take it you don’t think the USCG should rescue crab fisherman either! Nice name calling by the way. I guess those who consume king crab are also idiots.

You truly are dumb if you cannot understand the difference between fisherman and this vanity tourism. Stop while you’re ahead because the comparison you “think” you’re making is just embarrassing for you.

Nope they are risking their lives so rich idiots can eat crab legs. Same thing just a different scale. Those fisherman knowingly put their lives at risk to make a buck.

By your logic anyone trying to make a profit shouldn’t be rescued. You are just too stupid to see the parallel!

These people on this tourist mission weren’t earning a living. They actually paid big bucks to kill themselves.

[Anonymous]

Some of the posters probably don’t think countries should have rescue missions in place for space farers either.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope my death is never discussed on this site, because NO MATTER WHAT THE CAUSE, internet posters finds a way to blame the victims.

You are seriously calling people who made the massively gluttonous decision to spend 250k for something so recreationally risky, "victims?"

Are you insane?

Seriously. Someone (Canada? The US Navy?) is sending FOUR airplanes from Buffalo, NY filled with supplies for the mission to find these people. These guys were careless with their lives and now putting others into danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the posters probably don’t think countries should have rescue missions in place for space farers either.

Umm no, not the same. Try again, you’re horrible at analogies. You fail.

[Anonymous]

This is really sad. How was the company legally allowed to operate this business, given how dangerous it is and the difficulty in being unable to rescue people if things went wrong?

[Anonymous]

Epitome of rich people problems

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is really sad. How was the company legally allowed to operate this business, given how dangerous it is and the difficulty in being unable to rescue people if things went wrong?

It’s similar to climbing Everest, anyone can attempt it, doesn’t mean they are qualified though. Climbing Everest is a horrible idea for most people. Same as touring the Titanic.

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Anonymous wrote:This is really sad. How was the company legally allowed to operate this business, given how dangerous it is and the difficulty in being unable to rescue people if things went wrong?

People have been sailing, and dying at sea, since prehistory.