Our elementary school canceled Halloween

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Anonymous wrote:* in liberal MoCo.

Although moco may lean left, that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of right-wing radicals. Just read this board for a few days, and you'll see what I mean. For example, there are posts by anti-maskers and people who want to overturn the board of election over some minor program.

Lean left?

MoCo doesn't lean left. It's completely fallen over face-first nose-dive left.

What you call right-wing radicals are just moderate everyday people in the rest of the country.

THIS!

Anti-maskers? Please, at this point, anyone pushing for mask mandates for kids in school is anti-science.

Nice non sequitur there.

That poster is way off. The US has gone so far to the right over the past decades that even conservatives like Nixon seem liberal by today's standards. Moco seems pretty moderate within the greater historical context.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate this but it’s a uniquely stupid liberal movement. My sisters kids in Florida still get to celebrate no problem.

Agreed. My family in both TX and AZ are still allowed to celebrate Halloween and birthdays.

Our MCPS ES even got rid of birthday celebrations this year.

I'm genuinely surprised since those states are under the thrall of the Christian Taliban.

Montgomery County has a more diverse population of religious fanatics. And the progressive liberals in this county are the most fanatical of them all. Out to cancel anything and everything.

False, right-wing extremists have long been aligned with the Christian right.

I think this is one issue where the extreme right and left have common ground- the religious right that doesn’t celebrate and the left who doesnt want to leave anyone out, it’s an equity thing. The more moderate factions of both blame the opposite side.

[Anonymous]

My elementary school cancelled Halloween indefinitely after a little girl’s veil blew off in front of the school bus and she was run over. There’s lots of reasons not to allow Halloween parades, costumes, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:My elementary school cancelled Halloween indefinitely after a little girl’s veil blew off in front of the school bus and she was run over. There’s lots of reasons not to allow Halloween parades, costumes, etc.

Okay Bev Goldberg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* in liberal MoCo.

Although moco may lean left, that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of right-wing radicals. Just read this board for a few days, and you'll see what I mean. For example, there are posts by anti-maskers and people who want to overturn the board of election over some minor program.

Lean left?

MoCo doesn't lean left. It's completely fallen over face-first nose-dive left.

What you call right-wing radicals are just moderate everyday people in the rest of the country.

THIS!

Anti-maskers? Please, at this point, anyone pushing for mask mandates for kids in school is anti-science.

Nice non sequitur there.

That poster is way off. The US has gone so far to the right over the past decades that even conservatives like Nixon seem liberal by today's standards. Moco seems pretty moderate within the greater historical context.

Yes, because things like drag queen story hour at a library were always considered politically moderate from a historical context

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* in liberal MoCo.

Although moco may lean left, that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of right-wing radicals. Just read this board for a few days, and you'll see what I mean. For example, there are posts by anti-maskers and people who want to overturn the board of election over some minor program.

Lean left?

MoCo doesn't lean left. It's completely fallen over face-first nose-dive left.

What you call right-wing radicals are just moderate everyday people in the rest of the country.

THIS!

Anti-maskers? Please, at this point, anyone pushing for mask mandates for kids in school is anti-science.

Nice non sequitur there.

That poster is way off. The US has gone so far to the right over the past decades that even conservatives like Nixon seem liberal by today's standards. Moco seems pretty moderate within the greater historical context.

Yes, because things like drag queen story hour at a library were always considered politically moderate from a historical context

It's more like Nixon creating the EPA or Reagan granting amnesty all the illegals. By today's standards those guys are left of Bernie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* in liberal MoCo.

Although moco may lean left, that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of right-wing radicals. Just read this board for a few days, and you'll see what I mean. For example, there are posts by anti-maskers and people who want to overturn the board of election over some minor program.

Lean left?

MoCo doesn't lean left. It's completely fallen over face-first nose-dive left.

What you call right-wing radicals are just moderate everyday people in the rest of the country.

THIS!

Anti-maskers? Please, at this point, anyone pushing for mask mandates for kids in school is anti-science.

Nice non sequitur there.

That poster is way off. The US has gone so far to the right over the past decades that even conservatives like Nixon seem liberal by today's standards. Moco seems pretty moderate within the greater historical context.

Yes, because things like drag queen story hour at a library were always considered politically moderate from a historical context

It's more like Nixon creating the EPA or Reagan granting amnesty all the illegals. By today's standards those guys are left of Bernie.

That's fair. And I suppose the current left does still have its working class credentials (to a degree), but the identity politics which are so prevalent here in MoCo don't really have a place in historical context.

[Anonymous]

Why do schools need to celebrate Halloween? Neighborhood gatherings should suffice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do schools need to celebrate Halloween? Neighborhood gatherings should suffice.

I think it boils down to whether or not you think Halloween is a part of our shared culture.

I sort of get the objections. There are very few things that unite as a community. In some ways that's good; each culture is respected and given the space to celebrate their traditions. In other ways, its not great. There's less and less that unite.

Halloween is a wholesome, non-religious activity that is pretty unique to our culture. Not only that, its fun. Some of my favorite memories as both a kid and an adult are the Halloween parades through school and the Halloween parties.

Layer on top of that the past 2+ years for our kids, and it just seems like people are twisting the knife. They've had so much taken from them, that its seem unnecessary to take this as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do schools need to celebrate Halloween? Neighborhood gatherings should suffice.

I think it boils down to whether or not you think Halloween is a part of our shared culture.

I sort of get the objections. There are very few things that unite as a community. In some ways that's good; each culture is respected and given the space to celebrate their traditions. In other ways, its not great. There's less and less that unite.

Halloween is a wholesome, non-religious activity that is pretty unique to our culture. Not only that, its fun. Some of my favorite memories as both a kid and an adult are the Halloween parades through school and the Halloween parties.

Layer on top of that the past 2+ years for our kids, and it just seems like people are twisting the knife. They've had so much taken from them, that its seem unnecessary to take this as well.

I agree with all of the above. Great post.

For all those who are dismissing concerns: it wasn't that long ago that schools did routinely celebrate Halloween. This change is notable to many kids. My DD is in fifth grade now and remembers well the Halloween celebrations she had in K - Second, pre-pandemic. She's (age-appropriately) disappointed that they don't dress up anymore. I'm of the mindset that more fun for our kids is better than less right now, given the pandemic and how restrictive MCPS has been.

[Anonymous]

As a parent who did the parties we had parents come but not help. Getting 20+ kids in and out of costumes, fed and some games as a nightmare when at best you had an hour. If you are going to complain, make sure you are there to help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do schools need to celebrate Halloween? Neighborhood gatherings should suffice.

I think it boils down to whether or not you think Halloween is a part of our shared culture.

I sort of get the objections. There are very few things that unite as a community. In some ways that's good; each culture is respected and given the space to celebrate their traditions. In other ways, its not great. There's less and less that unite.

Halloween is a wholesome, non-religious activity that is pretty unique to our culture. Not only that, its fun. Some of my favorite memories as both a kid and an adult are the Halloween parades through school and the Halloween parties.

Layer on top of that the past 2+ years for our kids, and it just seems like people are twisting the knife. They've had so much taken from them, that its seem unnecessary to take this as well.

Except that Halloween is a religious holiday. First, it may incorporates pagan traditions but it is based on All Hallows Eve, a Christian holiday that is still celebrated. We went to mass dutifully every November 1. You can argue that Halloween is not religious all you want but the truth is, it’s a western Christian concept. Not everyone wants to celebrate in school, times are changing and we as a society are shifting away from Halloween in school. I will still be celebrating at home but at school my kids can dress up at book character day instead.

[Anonymous]

All Saints Day on 11/1 has nothing to do with Halloween.

With your ridiculous equating of the two, you must also believe that Cabbage Night is similarly a religious holiday?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All Saints Day on 11/1 has nothing to do with Halloween.

With your ridiculous equating of the two, you must also believe that Cabbage Night is similarly a religious holiday?

I have no idea what cabbage night is but All Saints Day is known as All Hallows’ Day, Halloween comes the day before, All Hallows’ Eve= Halloween.

[Anonymous]

Halloween is a fun holiday the Christians co-opted to make their religion more appealing. We are simply going back to the original roots by stripping the Christianity out of the holiday.