Mary Cheh wants to make it legal for bicyclists for blow stop signs and stop lights

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Anonymous wrote:The cost per use of D.C.'s bike infrastructure must be astronomical.

The city has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on bike lanes, capital bikeshare, etc. How many people regularly ride in the city? 500?

It would be cheaper for the city to pay each of those people $10,000 to ride the bus (and paying them is probably the only way they'd agree to ride the bus).

I wish the city spent money on poor people like it spends money on white dudes who refuse to ride the bus.

There were nearly 10,000 daily trips on Capital Bikeshare, even in the midst of lockdowns: https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/bikeshare-ridership-down-44-during-covid-19

And over 15,000 commuters living in Washington DC commuted by bicycle: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=Commuting&g=0500000US11001&tid=ACSST5Y2020.S0801

Your numbers are a bit off, to say the least, so I suspect that nobody takes your rant seriously.

2020? You mean when everything was closed and most people did not have a commute?

Also, you can't just look at DC data because most people on the road in DC are from Virginia and Maryland.

Also, daily trips is a useless metric. How many daily trips by car in DC are there every day? Five million? What we care about is the number of people using these things.

All kinds of stat fouls here....

Biggest foul is that it didn't fit your narrative

there's also just the eye test. go drive around the city, anywhere you want, whenever you want. ballpark how many cars you see and how many bikes you see. betcha you can't even get one percent of people on bikes.

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Have you seen the stats on who uses bikes in D.C.? It's basically only white people.

More than 25 percent of kids in D.C. live in poverty. We dont have the money to lift poor black children out of poverty but we have all the money under the sun for white guys on bikes..

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Anonymous wrote:I started working downtown again and traffic is going to be an absolut nightmare once people fully return. So many streets are essentially one lane now with side/former parking lanes blocked off by barriers for bikes. It even makes me question what would happen in an emergency. How will ambulances and fire trucks be able to pass when cars have no where to move aside?

Frustrating drivers isn't the best way to tackle climate change. (Another sidebar is that DC has dramatically reduced parking spaces while simultaneously using $2.5 million of its covid money to hire more parking enforcement officers.

A very vocal and bullying crowd of cycling activists is crowding out a more silent majority. Cyclists need to be safer and they are still by far the minority of voters in DC. And let's turn to more effective ways to address climate change like promoting veganism.

Blocking parking options will also hurt businesses. This new traffic pattern is not well thought out. We need better for our city.

Wrong. That "silent majority" you're talking about are mostly out-of-state commuters who just want to race around our narrow city street. The actual majority of DC residents want to stop that senseless carnage by making streets safer for bikers and pedestrians.

Is this your opinion or do you have legitimate, believable data to back up your claim?

AN overwhelming majority elected the DC mayor and council. The mayor and council are overwhelmingly in favor of making our streets safer. If you're from VA or MD, your "opinion" doesn't count. Take your road rage back to the boring suburbs.

DC resident. Not a fan of what is going on downtown. Live in a UNW are that is not convenient for public transportation (which has its own drawbacks as the pandemic showed). Not a fan of lawless cyclicts -- law-abiding cyclists are fine. I have no problem penalizing out-of-state commuters via something like a congestion tax like London uses. But as a DC resident, I want to be able to drive and park and visit establishments. I went to the MLK library recently on a Sunday afternoon and drove around for 40 minutes trying to find parking and ended up having to pay $25 to park in a garage. So, yeah, I'd support someone who backed a more sensible approach.

Why do you think it's more sensible for you to have free parking in downtown DC? Other than selfishness.

Because the vast majority of people in Washington drive? The real question is why we dedicate so much of our scarce transportation resources to such a tiny number of bicyclists. Look at our bike lanes. Barely anyone uses them.

narrator: "This message has been brought to you by climate change. Climate change, let's keep it going!"

Sweetie, the climate change problem is so vast that it makes no difference whether you or me or anyone else rides a bike instead of driving car. Also, uh, if you dont want to drive you can walk or ride the subway or take the bus. Sorry but riding your bike is a completely inconsequential symbolic act and that's all it is.

Dearie, we're discussing city-wide policy. You're suggesting we should continue making the city car friendly, which is in the wrong direction. Try to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the stats on who uses bikes in D.C.? It's basically only white people.

More than 25 percent of kids in D.C. live in poverty. We dont have the money to lift poor black children out of poverty but we have all the money under the sun for white guys on bikes..

Source, please. That sounds like fabricated BS from behind the windshield of your Tahoe on your commute from Palisades.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost per use of D.C.'s bike infrastructure must be astronomical.

The city has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on bike lanes, capital bikeshare, etc. How many people regularly ride in the city? 500?

It would be cheaper for the city to pay each of those people $10,000 to ride the bus (and paying them is probably the only way they'd agree to ride the bus).

I wish the city spent money on poor people like it spends money on white dudes who refuse to ride the bus.

There were nearly 10,000 daily trips on Capital Bikeshare, even in the midst of lockdowns: https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/bikeshare-ridership-down-44-during-covid-19

And over 15,000 commuters living in Washington DC commuted by bicycle: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=Commuting&g=0500000US11001&tid=ACSST5Y2020.S0801

Your numbers are a bit off, to say the least, so I suspect that nobody takes your rant seriously.

2020? You mean when everything was closed and most people did not have a commute?

Also, you can't just look at DC data because most people on the road in DC are from Virginia and Maryland.

Also, daily trips is a useless metric. How many daily trips by car in DC are there every day? Five million? What we care about is the number of people using these things.

All kinds of stat fouls here....

True, but car-crazy commuters from VA/MD don't get a say on what should happen with our DC streets. The only thing that matters is that most DC residents want safer streets and stop all this insane out-of-state road rage.

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This special person is having a really hard time finding statistics to support their position. Completely struck out on Fox News and currently side-tracked on Breitbart.

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Anonymous wrote:I started working downtown again and traffic is going to be an absolut nightmare once people fully return. So many streets are essentially one lane now with side/former parking lanes blocked off by barriers for bikes. It even makes me question what would happen in an emergency. How will ambulances and fire trucks be able to pass when cars have no where to move aside?

Frustrating drivers isn't the best way to tackle climate change. (Another sidebar is that DC has dramatically reduced parking spaces while simultaneously using $2.5 million of its covid money to hire more parking enforcement officers.

A very vocal and bullying crowd of cycling activists is crowding out a more silent majority. Cyclists need to be safer and they are still by far the minority of voters in DC. And let's turn to more effective ways to address climate change like promoting veganism.

Blocking parking options will also hurt businesses. This new traffic pattern is not well thought out. We need better for our city.

Wrong. That "silent majority" you're talking about are mostly out-of-state commuters who just want to race around our narrow city street. The actual majority of DC residents want to stop that senseless carnage by making streets safer for bikers and pedestrians.

Is this your opinion or do you have legitimate, believable data to back up your claim?

AN overwhelming majority elected the DC mayor and council. The mayor and council are overwhelmingly in favor of making our streets safer. If you're from VA or MD, your "opinion" doesn't count. Take your road rage back to the boring suburbs.

DC resident. Not a fan of what is going on downtown. Live in a UNW are that is not convenient for public transportation (which has its own drawbacks as the pandemic showed). Not a fan of lawless cyclicts -- law-abiding cyclists are fine. I have no problem penalizing out-of-state commuters via something like a congestion tax like London uses. But as a DC resident, I want to be able to drive and park and visit establishments. I went to the MLK library recently on a Sunday afternoon and drove around for 40 minutes trying to find parking and ended up having to pay $25 to park in a garage. So, yeah, I'd support someone who backed a more sensible approach.

Why do you think it's more sensible for you to have free parking in downtown DC? Other than selfishness.

Because the vast majority of people in Washington drive? The real question is why we dedicate so much of our scarce transportation resources to such a tiny number of bicyclists. Look at our bike lanes. Barely anyone uses them.

narrator: "This message has been brought to you by climate change. Climate change, let's keep it going!"

Sweetie, the climate change problem is so vast that it makes no difference whether you or me or anyone else rides a bike instead of driving car. Also, uh, if you dont want to drive you can walk or ride the subway or take the bus. Sorry but riding your bike is a completely inconsequential symbolic act and that's all it is.

'think globally, act locally

pretty simple

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the stats on who uses bikes in D.C.? It's basically only white people.

More than 25 percent of kids in D.C. live in poverty. We dont have the money to lift poor black children out of poverty but we have all the money under the sun for white guys on bikes..

Source, please. That sounds like fabricated BS from behind the windshield of your Tahoe on your commute from Palisades.

Are you joking? You must be new here. Studies as well as user data from Capital Bikeshare have consistently shown that between 80 and 90 percent of people who rides bikes in Washington D.C. are white (and this in "Chocolate City"). Blacks are far more likely to drive than whites. Blacks are also far more likely than whites to be ticketed by that automatic speed cameras that bicyclists are clamoring to expand.

Every single thing about bikes lanes in Washington D.C. screams white privilege.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Trends-and-determinants-of-cycling-in-the-DC-Buehler-Hamre/93cd6416ab5e635e29c4d173267a831002c1015c

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/the-demographics-of-walking-and-biking-to-work/

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

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Anonymous wrote:I started working downtown again and traffic is going to be an absolut nightmare once people fully return. So many streets are essentially one lane now with side/former parking lanes blocked off by barriers for bikes. It even makes me question what would happen in an emergency. How will ambulances and fire trucks be able to pass when cars have no where to move aside?

Frustrating drivers isn't the best way to tackle climate change. (Another sidebar is that DC has dramatically reduced parking spaces while simultaneously using $2.5 million of its covid money to hire more parking enforcement officers.

A very vocal and bullying crowd of cycling activists is crowding out a more silent majority. Cyclists need to be safer and they are still by far the minority of voters in DC. And let's turn to more effective ways to address climate change like promoting veganism.

Blocking parking options will also hurt businesses. This new traffic pattern is not well thought out. We need better for our city.

Wrong. That "silent majority" you're talking about are mostly out-of-state commuters who just want to race around our narrow city street. The actual majority of DC residents want to stop that senseless carnage by making streets safer for bikers and pedestrians.

Is this your opinion or do you have legitimate, believable data to back up your claim?

AN overwhelming majority elected the DC mayor and council. The mayor and council are overwhelmingly in favor of making our streets safer. If you're from VA or MD, your "opinion" doesn't count. Take your road rage back to the boring suburbs.

DC resident. Not a fan of what is going on downtown. Live in a UNW are that is not convenient for public transportation (which has its own drawbacks as the pandemic showed). Not a fan of lawless cyclicts -- law-abiding cyclists are fine. I have no problem penalizing out-of-state commuters via something like a congestion tax like London uses. But as a DC resident, I want to be able to drive and park and visit establishments. I went to the MLK library recently on a Sunday afternoon and drove around for 40 minutes trying to find parking and ended up having to pay $25 to park in a garage. So, yeah, I'd support someone who backed a more sensible approach.

Why do you think it's more sensible for you to have free parking in downtown DC? Other than selfishness.

Because the vast majority of people in Washington drive? The real question is why we dedicate so much of our scarce transportation resources to such a tiny number of bicyclists. Look at our bike lanes. Barely anyone uses them.

narrator: "This message has been brought to you by climate change. Climate change, let's keep it going!"

Sweetie, the climate change problem is so vast that it makes no difference whether you or me or anyone else rides a bike instead of driving car. Also, uh, if you dont want to drive you can walk or ride the subway or take the bus. Sorry but riding your bike is a completely inconsequential symbolic act and that's all it is.

'think globally, act locally

pretty simple

Ok, well your bike riding as well as your dumb slogans mean jack shit to climate change.

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Anonymous wrote:I started working downtown again and traffic is going to be an absolut nightmare once people fully return. So many streets are essentially one lane now with side/former parking lanes blocked off by barriers for bikes. It even makes me question what would happen in an emergency. How will ambulances and fire trucks be able to pass when cars have no where to move aside?

Frustrating drivers isn't the best way to tackle climate change. (Another sidebar is that DC has dramatically reduced parking spaces while simultaneously using $2.5 million of its covid money to hire more parking enforcement officers.

A very vocal and bullying crowd of cycling activists is crowding out a more silent majority. Cyclists need to be safer and they are still by far the minority of voters in DC. And let's turn to more effective ways to address climate change like promoting veganism.

Blocking parking options will also hurt businesses. This new traffic pattern is not well thought out. We need better for our city.

Wrong. That "silent majority" you're talking about are mostly out-of-state commuters who just want to race around our narrow city street. The actual majority of DC residents want to stop that senseless carnage by making streets safer for bikers and pedestrians.

Is this your opinion or do you have legitimate, believable data to back up your claim?

AN overwhelming majority elected the DC mayor and council. The mayor and council are overwhelmingly in favor of making our streets safer. If you're from VA or MD, your "opinion" doesn't count. Take your road rage back to the boring suburbs.

DC resident. Not a fan of what is going on downtown. Live in a UNW are that is not convenient for public transportation (which has its own drawbacks as the pandemic showed). Not a fan of lawless cyclicts -- law-abiding cyclists are fine. I have no problem penalizing out-of-state commuters via something like a congestion tax like London uses. But as a DC resident, I want to be able to drive and park and visit establishments. I went to the MLK library recently on a Sunday afternoon and drove around for 40 minutes trying to find parking and ended up having to pay $25 to park in a garage. So, yeah, I'd support someone who backed a more sensible approach.

Why do you think it's more sensible for you to have free parking in downtown DC? Other than selfishness.

Because the vast majority of people in Washington drive? The real question is why we dedicate so much of our scarce transportation resources to such a tiny number of bicyclists. Look at our bike lanes. Barely anyone uses them.

narrator: "This message has been brought to you by climate change. Climate change, let's keep it going!"

Sweetie, the climate change problem is so vast that it makes no difference whether you or me or anyone else rides a bike instead of driving car. Also, uh, if you dont want to drive you can walk or ride the subway or take the bus. Sorry but riding your bike is a completely inconsequential symbolic act and that's all it is.

'think globally, act locally

pretty simple

Ok, well your bike riding as well as your dumb slogans mean jack shit to climate change.

Nihilism ain't a good look, honey.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the stats on who uses bikes in D.C.? It's basically only white people.

More than 25 percent of kids in D.C. live in poverty. We dont have the money to lift poor black children out of poverty but we have all the money under the sun for white guys on bikes..

Source, please. That sounds like fabricated BS from behind the windshield of your Tahoe on your commute from Palisades.

Are you joking? You must be new here. Studies as well as user data from Capital Bikeshare have consistently shown that between 80 and 90 percent of people who rides bikes in Washington D.C. are white (and this in "Chocolate City"). Blacks are far more likely to drive than whites. Blacks are also far more likely than whites to be ticketed by that automatic speed cameras that bicyclists are clamoring to expand.

Every single thing about bikes lanes in Washington D.C. screams white privilege.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Trends-and-determinants-of-cycling-in-the-DC-Buehler-Hamre/93cd6416ab5e635e29c4d173267a831002c1015c

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/the-demographics-of-walking-and-biking-to-work/

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

There are literally numbers in that article. They don't say that 80-90% of bicyclists are white, so nice try. And do you care about people who bike for reasons other than commuting?

[Anonymous]

Are there really people who think that car culture is social justice? It's pretty far fetched. Like the whole history of suburbs just doesn't exist to them.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the stats on who uses bikes in D.C.? It's basically only white people.

More than 25 percent of kids in D.C. live in poverty. We dont have the money to lift poor black children out of poverty but we have all the money under the sun for white guys on bikes..

If you honestly believe that most bike riders in DC are white then you never venture east of Rock Creek Park.

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Anonymous wrote:I started working downtown again and traffic is going to be an absolut nightmare once people fully return. So many streets are essentially one lane now with side/former parking lanes blocked off by barriers for bikes. It even makes me question what would happen in an emergency. How will ambulances and fire trucks be able to pass when cars have no where to move aside?

Frustrating drivers isn't the best way to tackle climate change. (Another sidebar is that DC has dramatically reduced parking spaces while simultaneously using $2.5 million of its covid money to hire more parking enforcement officers.

A very vocal and bullying crowd of cycling activists is crowding out a more silent majority. Cyclists need to be safer and they are still by far the minority of voters in DC. And let's turn to more effective ways to address climate change like promoting veganism.

Blocking parking options will also hurt businesses. This new traffic pattern is not well thought out. We need better for our city.

Wrong. That "silent majority" you're talking about are mostly out-of-state commuters who just want to race around our narrow city street. The actual majority of DC residents want to stop that senseless carnage by making streets safer for bikers and pedestrians.

Is this your opinion or do you have legitimate, believable data to back up your claim?

AN overwhelming majority elected the DC mayor and council. The mayor and council are overwhelmingly in favor of making our streets safer. If you're from VA or MD, your "opinion" doesn't count. Take your road rage back to the boring suburbs.

DC resident. Not a fan of what is going on downtown. Live in a UNW are that is not convenient for public transportation (which has its own drawbacks as the pandemic showed). Not a fan of lawless cyclicts -- law-abiding cyclists are fine. I have no problem penalizing out-of-state commuters via something like a congestion tax like London uses. But as a DC resident, I want to be able to drive and park and visit establishments. I went to the MLK library recently on a Sunday afternoon and drove around for 40 minutes trying to find parking and ended up having to pay $25 to park in a garage. So, yeah, I'd support someone who backed a more sensible approach.

Well, that is your choice. It isn't up to the city to ensure you can store your vehicle on public space. You could have bypassed the 40 minutes of circilng and just paid the $25 when you got there. Or you could have biked for free. Or, you could have taken a bus for a couple of dollars or the metro for 4 dollars.

The fact of the matter is that what kind of worked in 1957 simply doesn't work anymore. We need to change our cities away from single occupancy vehicle subsidies. If you want to drive, pay for it. Otherwise, mass transit or bike/scooter is where things are going. If there are accessibility issues, that is what the red-top meters are for.

This is happening in virtually every city around the world.

In D.C.? No, it’s not. Keep dreaming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the stats on who uses bikes in D.C.? It's basically only white people.

More than 25 percent of kids in D.C. live in poverty. We dont have the money to lift poor black children out of poverty but we have all the money under the sun for white guys on bikes..

Source, please. That sounds like fabricated BS from behind the windshield of your Tahoe on your commute from Palisades.

Are you joking? You must be new here. Studies as well as user data from Capital Bikeshare have consistently shown that between 80 and 90 percent of people who rides bikes in Washington D.C. are white (and this in "Chocolate City"). Blacks are far more likely to drive than whites. Blacks are also far more likely than whites to be ticketed by that automatic speed cameras that bicyclists are clamoring to expand.

Every single thing about bikes lanes in Washington D.C. screams white privilege.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Trends-and-determinants-of-cycling-in-the-DC-Buehler-Hamre/93cd6416ab5e635e29c4d173267a831002c1015c

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/the-demographics-of-walking-and-biking-to-work/

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

Troll. I bet you drive some big expensive luxury SUV and don't even live in DC.