Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:People are focused on the assumption it was a black woman. In terms of DEI, a woman crew member of a BH of any color, white included, would absolutely be considered a DEI hire.

right and who where the DEI hires who decided it was a good idea to run training missions in the middle of one of the business stretch of airway in the world?

I mean, seriously. This isn't a DEI issue. They fly BHs regularly along that route, and have for years. It has been brought up as problematic. Near misses in the last 10 - 15 years. As I've seen reported, this is an issue that would only be addressed after a tragic accident.

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Anonymous wrote:How much has Elon Musk said about this? Let’s be honest - he’s the one actually running the government at the moment. And if he’s unusually quiet about this incident (I have no idea as I’m not on his site) that would be noteworthy, since he seemingly can’t stop himself from weighing in on everything else.

Well now the NTSB has announced it will ONLY be communicating to the press via the app formerly known as Twitter. This is graft, this is corruption. Why the hell is a government bureau only being allowed to communicate through a social media channel owned by Elon. This seems like a crime if I ever saw one.

What? Seriously? No briefings?

You people are hysterical, and I don't mean funny. The NTSB announced that due to the huge amount of requests, they will not be notifying the press of briefings, news, etc., through email. Instead will do public notifications on X for where and when the briefings will take place. Get a grip.

Why force people to use X!?!?

The Elon apologists are out in force. Somehow the NTSB previously managed to function without limiting themselves to one channel of communication. They are ONLY using X. It is a private platform and the federal government should not be forced to use a single privately owned media channel, especially when the person ordering its use also happens to own it. That is corruption. That is graft. That is a crime. Put plainly, Musk is using is political power for his own person financial gain.

How can this possibly be legal?

I would argue that it is a channel that is guaranteed to reach far more people than some antiquated email list.

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

The WH social aide gig is a prestigious thing. The ones I know went on to become a US Senator and a CEO.

Funny how the posters with pitchforks seem quiet now that she’s been named.

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Anonymous wrote:People are focused on the assumption it was a black woman. In terms of DEI, a woman crew member of a BH of any color, white included, would absolutely be considered a DEI hire.

Only if the credentials don’t match that of her peers. Show us her background.

Libs think DEI means black chicks and Republicans think it means people that don’t deserve it but get it anyways, probably because they’re black chicks but not always. If they’re just a chick the question remains if their credentials meet that of other high level, accident free, pilots

I know many female ex-mil pilots who kick ass (including my primary flight instructor who now works for Delta, and a long time friend who flew F-16s), and I was assuming this woman in the role of DC VIP transport would have unquestionable credentials, because the people I know in those roles, and I know they beat out other lesser candidates. I assumed that all this childish, hateful bad mouthing would all be groundless

I am concerned that her memorial notices are saying she had 450 hours but that she earned her wings in early 2021. That is a very shockingly low number for someone who is active duty (I would assume at least 200 hrs a year), it looks like she was Guard for some of that and was currently active duty and living in Woodbridge. I see she was working as XO and the WH and other aux roles.
Which is fine, but in mil usually you pick a lane and go into a command track for that kind of stuff if you want to go career and get promoted (and then just fly occasionally to keep a "paper" qualification above your desk) , or you if you are not "career" (she planned on going to med school), you get your hours in and compete if you want to be picked cream-of-crop pilot roles like VIP transport that go to the best 10%.

There seems to be a mismatch that I can't logically resolve since she is in a very elite VIP unit with those few hours spread over so many years. I am not going to fall for the DEI BS, but I am honestly trying to figure out what the chain of events logically led her to be the PIC in this scenario. I'm a little rattled as to why she was in that situation . I'm made mistakes in the air and I've been lucky to still be here, and I am not the best pilot by any means, but somehow she was put in this situation and this was evidently an error with astounding consequences...

I think this fits in with the overall question of why they are doing training *at all* in such a high risk setting, and if so, how they conduct it. Why we are focused on this crew for obvious reasons, the broader question is whether this was an anomaly or if they are being just as careless with training over our airports and residential neighborhoods (who among us on the Hill has not had their teeth rattle by low flying copters?)

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Anonymous wrote:People are focused on the assumption it was a black woman. In terms of DEI, a woman crew member of a BH of any color, white included, would absolutely be considered a DEI hire.

Spoken by someone with zero real military experience.

Women pilots have been kicking ass in the Blackhawks for decades now. They don’t get there by their T&A.

You are missing the point. In a manufactured, partisan media blitz, female of any stripe will be used as a DEI hire.

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank

But would it make sense for the position she was in on that BH on a busy Wednesday evening potentially transporting a VIP?

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank

When does the White House aide thing happen? Was that a side job or a full time day job and she was in the reserves? Sorry, I don’t know anything about the military.

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Sad state that we are focusing on this woman instead of the 2 men who were on the same BH.

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank

But would it make sense for the position she was in on that BH on a busy Wednesday evening potentially transporting a VIP?

Are you insinuating she was personally requested by the VIP? In other words, the VIP was someone she knew from the Biden WH, who was going to Langley after Trump was sworn in?

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Anonymous wrote:Sad state that we are focusing on this woman instead of the 2 men who were on the same BH.

She was senior command of that chopper. Those at the top always get blamed.

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank

When does the White House aide thing happen? Was that a side job or a full time day job and she was in the reserves? Sorry, I don’t know anything about the military.

It's an additional duty, not a full time job.
https://www.army.mil/article/273603/white_house_seeks_military_social_aide

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank

When does the White House aide thing happen? Was that a side job or a full time day job and she was in the reserves? Sorry, I don’t know anything about the military.

Not really sure about that. ROTC has special summer opportunities, perhaps it was a summer internship

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Anonymous wrote:Sad state that we are focusing on this woman instead of the 2 men who were on the same BH.

She was senior command of that chopper. Those at the top always get blamed.

I thought she was crew chief, not pilot. And if she was in charge of the BH at her age and experience level, then yeah, this will be bad.

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.

Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?

Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank

But would it make sense for the position she was in on that BH on a busy Wednesday evening potentially transporting a VIP?

Are you insinuating she was personally requested by the VIP? In other words, the VIP was someone she knew from the Biden WH, who was going to Langley after Trump was sworn in?

No, not at all. Just that I can't imagine they would send some Joe Rookie to ferry a VIP.