Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Well where exactly would Brandon have exposure to much younger women? I think the theory is plausible it was someone associated with his grown kids. That would help explain why Tyler was appalled at the level of Brandon’s marital failure.

Yeah the strippers and gambling are new suggestions. As hard as he’s been hitting the booze in recent years anything is possible I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Well where exactly would Brandon have exposure to much younger women? I think the theory is plausible it was someone associated with his grown kids. That would help explain why Tyler was appalled at the level of Brandon’s marital failure.

Yeah the strippers and gambling are new suggestions. As hard as he’s been hitting the booze in recent years anything is possible I guess.

Austin is a college town

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I heard it was an addiction to little people porn that got away from him — it morphed into a fetish that he couldn’t control. Jen found out— Brandon tried to coax her into adopting some little people from some 3rd world countries. She saw it as an opportunity to gain more followers, but she just couldn’t get over what she’d seen.

How about not joking about something like that and making up a ridiculous scenario.

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I’m just an old married woman so I forget how folks can have random hookups via tinder these days. There’s tons of ways Brandon could have found a much younger mistress thanks to technology.

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“I heard it was an addiction to little people porn that got away from him — it morphed into a fetish that he couldn’t control. Jen found out— Brandon tried to coax her into adopting some little people from some 3rd world countries. She saw it as an opportunity to gain more followers, but she just couldn’t get over what she’d seen.”

What an idiotic attempt at trying to be funny.

[Anonymous]

Well that would explain why all his old friends (Tray and crew) and his kids abandoned him if that is true.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that would explain why all his old friends (Tray and crew) and his kids abandoned him if that is true.

It seemed that based on the pics of his recent trip to Mexico, it was Brandon and Tina and Tina’s friends. He genuinely doesn’t seem to have any adult friends of his own anymore. I find it interesting that whatever he did was bad enough that his old friends don’t seem to be his friends anymore. Maybe that’s why he has all of these references to loyalty?

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Anonymous wrote:“I heard it was an addiction to little people porn that got away from him — it morphed into a fetish that he couldn’t control. Jen found out— Brandon tried to coax her into adopting some little people from some 3rd world countries. She saw it as an opportunity to gain more followers, but she just couldn’t get over what she’d seen.”

What an idiotic attempt at trying to be funny.

This is so funny!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I literally know of no one who benefitted more from evangelical Christianity than Jen. To this day she’s cashing in on dividends from that heritage. Those sweet family members and friends who constantly serve her learned those behaviors in church.
She’s pissed cause they wouldn’t scrap a “few” specific verses in the Bible about homosexuality so now the whole evangelical camp is suspect. How about the millions of us living in the painful tension of holding the Bible sacred while loving and embracing our lgbtqia+ friends and family. Some of us do not feel it’s safe or wise to remove or rewrite the chunks of the Bible that makes us uncomfortable. The Bible has been a lifeline we are not willing to muck with even if it hurts and leaves us ostracized. To be so ruthlessly vilified by Jen after the insane amount favor she liberally soaked up from these backwards evangelicals is cruel.

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+1000 so well said.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that all of these overly sympathetic characterizations of Brandon from the Christian women on this board belie the deeply rooted misogyny so prevalent in a lot of Christianity.

I’m no Jen fan - I find her vapid, fake and immature, but these Brandon takes “poor Brandon - he cheated and abused alcohol and drugs bc he was married to someone more famous than he is but he really loves the lord” are outrageous.

The difference is that Brandon isn’t swindling people. No one is calling him a saint, but it’s hard to have the disdain for him that people do for Jen when she’s the one actively deceiving others.

HE CHEATED ON HIS WIFE FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS. Now he's schilling real estate. My God.

Except. We literally have no idea if this is a fact. None!

I know it’s a fact.

How? People are gonna start calling you Jen!
Can you share anything more about this?

If I told you, I’d have to kill you.
J/k, friends of friends w them both.
I’ve known a while but did not share it here until she essentionally shared it herself on Glennon’s podcast.
That’s all I know. I don’t know who or how long.
As much as jen irritates me, I feel awful for her. No one deserves that.

Thank you for sharing. I totally respect that you don’t want to say too much. Did you end up here from Google like most of us, or did someone send you the link? (Curious if there are more people who kind of know them on here than we realize.)

Another ex-ANCer told me about it.
No one has been more disappointed & hurt by the Hatmakers than all of us.

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Is Sarah B. that desperate for cash and relevancy?

Maybe, because her books are just meandering half-thoughts with absolutely no point.

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I stopped listening to Sarah B. when she started asking for money to send people her long-winded overdramatic emails. But even before that I could never get through a blog post of hers without skimming. The writing was all over the place and I couldn't figure out what her point was. She and Jen are birds of a feather in their desire for attention at least.

Sarah Bessey is about 1/10 as wise as she thinks she is. Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:Something else that struck me as really, really bothersome was the whole Humans of New York "Detra" story, and how Jen took it as a launch pad for a rant against any woman who ever felt hurt and marginalized by men in the church.

Jen has highlighted, rightfully so, the many good men in her family, like her father and grandfather. In fact, when Caleb up and left his own graduation ceremony, my first thought was, "ooh, I don't think her no-nonsense granddad would've tolerated that for one minute." She even posted a photo of her poor dad barely staying awake during one of the graduations of Gavin or Sydney.

I thought it was terrible to celebrate her son just up and leaving the ceremony. It was a dick move by her son. And even a worse move for Brandon and her to endorse/celebrate it. Sure it’s boring, but it’s rude and disrespectful. I can forgive Caleb for doing it- he’s a douche teenager, and they do stupid sh*t all the time. But adults should know better. I’m not a huge institutional person. I’m all for bucking the system from time to time.

Maybe when I went to their church and they played a half dozen songs while passing the offering, and I was bored AF, I should have just scooped up my fam and jetted to sonic for a cheeseburger and shake and then laughed about it. I’m sure they would have loved watching people bail on their little church fest. God the services would drag on — just get to the point already.

They had to drag on because the ONLY thing those services had going for them was the music. The “sermons” were obviously vaguely thought out over Jack Daniels the night before, if at all.
Such a bunch of frauds.

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Anonymous wrote:I literally know of no one who benefitted more from evangelical Christianity than Jen. To this day she’s cashing in on dividends from that heritage. Those sweet family members and friends who constantly serve her learned those behaviors in church.
She’s pissed cause they wouldn’t scrap a “few” specific verses in the Bible about homosexuality so now the whole evangelical camp is suspect. How about the millions of us living in the painful tension of holding the Bible sacred while loving and embracing our lgbtqia+ friends and family. Some of us do not feel it’s safe or wise to remove or rewrite the chunks of the Bible that makes us uncomfortable. The Bible has been a lifeline we are not willing to muck with even if it hurts and leaves us ostracized. To be so ruthlessly vilified by Jen after the insane amount favor she liberally soaked up from these backwards evangelicals is cruel.

Damn girl. Standing ovation. And tears.

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Anonymous wrote:I literally know of no one who benefitted more from evangelical Christianity than Jen. To this day she’s cashing in on dividends from that heritage. Those sweet family members and friends who constantly serve her learned those behaviors in church.
She’s pissed cause they wouldn’t scrap a “few” specific verses in the Bible about homosexuality so now the whole evangelical camp is suspect. How about the millions of us living in the painful tension of holding the Bible sacred while loving and embracing our lgbtqia+ friends and family. Some of us do not feel it’s safe or wise to remove or rewrite the chunks of the Bible that makes us uncomfortable. The Bible has been a lifeline we are not willing to muck with even if it hurts and leaves us ostracized. To be so ruthlessly vilified by Jen after the insane amount favor she liberally soaked up from these backwards evangelicals is cruel.

The words “wheat” and “chaff” come to mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Was it one of Sydney’s friends and that’s why she’s MIA in Brandon’s life?

I’m all for speculating and hearing theories, but I have to put this one wayyyy out there. I have zero idea what happened, but him being with one of Sydney’s friends in that way is no where close to what I’d call a possibility. I know Brandon— not well mind you…. But he never came across as that kind of dude. Now- would he possibly have relations with an adult??? I can get behind that, but not a friend of his close daughter. I think that’s a bit far fetched.

On the other hand…….. people are into some really weird and kinky stuff and have hidden lives…. But I still don’t think he would have done that.

Sydney and her friends are adults.

I don’t know BH, but I know motorcycle clubs. The ones I know are into drinking, casual drugs and sex parties. YMMV

Yeah, the motorcycle club. The one he’s in is supposed to be about charity but from what I know about biker clubs, it’s always drugs at the least and goes on up to sex slavery and murder. You know there’s crossover between the different clubs.
A man is judged by the company he keeps.