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I agree she's never dated anyone that great, which I think is something that happens to very successful women often, for a lot of reasons.
One reason I don't see them getting married and having kids is that what would that even look like? It is so, so hard to do her job with kids. Especially to do it the way she does it. Like look at the people around them with kids. They mostly have at least one person who is either a SAHM or has the kind of career where taking time off to be with young kids is okay. Blake Lively has taken a step back from acting, so did Sophie Turner. Kylie Kelce and Brittany Mahomes sort of work but a huge part of their job is just the kids and supporting their husbands. A lot of their friends don't have kids despite being in the age range where people are most likely to do that. I just do not see Taylor doing what any of those women have done. At the same time, I don't see Travis being the one who puts his career on the back burner to have kids. He is obviously chomping at the bit to launch an entertainment career, and the window between NFL retirement and losing the goodwill/fame/interest that would make that possible will be narrow, I think. I don't think he's going to be content to do the occasion broadcasting gig while trailing after Taylor on tour or being the primary parent while she's recording or promoting. Anyway, I'm still not convinced it's even a real relationship, but even if it is, I don't see it lasting. It's worked thus far because the timing has allowed her to play WAG during a big season for him. That ends in 2 weeks and I don't see her backburnering anything to put him first, or vice versa. |
Anonymous
She needs to be seen as a hetero woman attractive to a jock man. That's her persona. |
Anonymous
We can cheer her on and still recognize a made up fake relationship when we see it. I'm impressed with her success. I'm not a fan but some of her songs are okay when they come on the radio. I think she's gay. That's the extend of my thoughts on her. That's not tearing her down. I'm not naive enough to think she is the actual person she presents to the world. |
Anonymous
Freezing unfertilized eggs is a scam with very low viability. |
Anonymous
It's wine, honey. Know the crowd. |
Anonymous
| Why do you care if she is Out and Proud Gay or Closeted Gay? |
Anonymous
First, speculating about someone's sexuality is disgusting. Especially when they have made public comments refuting those rumours and are presenting their identity as straight. Setting that one aside, the 'tearing her down' comments are the ones like: - people saying her eggs are shrivelled and thus she has no value in a relationship - saying she only made the Time cover because of who she is dating - calling her a creepy 34 year old hag pretending to be a teenager - saying she's ugly - calling someone emotionally stunted for acting excited and wearing a skirt to a football game (what???) - calling her a drunk There's a big difference between questioning whether the relationship is real or saying her makeup/lipstick isn't to your taste and all of the above. One is light celeb gossip and the other is nasty behavior. I'm not the PP you replied to but I agree with them 100%. |
Anonymous
Some of the things on your list have happened in this thread and I agree they are "tearing her down" unnecessarily. Some of the things on your list are willful misinterpretations of things people have said. |
Anonymous
NP. Seems like a pretty accurate interpretation to me. What do you take issue with? All of the above has been in this thread. I’ll add that I think declaring someone’s relationship as fake is tearing one down, but ymmv. |
Anonymous
One that jumps out is that no one said Taylor "only" go the Time cover because of her relationship with Kelce. Those posts were making a much more nuanced argument about how Taylor has used the Kelce relationship to help people forget about some love life drama that was pretty unpleasant, and also to expand her sphere of influence to a new area (sports). No one was saying that Travis Kelce was somehow the gatekeeper to becoming Time's Person of the Year. The relationship was good for her exposure and the perception that she is especially powerful as a marketing force. Had she not been on TV weekly in October/November (which is when that editorial decision is made), it's possible she simply would not have been top of mind enough to get that cover, despite the obvious success of her tour. No one said she was emotionally stunted for making certain faces or wearing short skirts at football games. People complained about these behaviors, but no one said she's emotionally stunted because of them. Though people have elsewhere made arguments she is emotionally stunted based on other explanations. A lot of the comments about her drinking were simply speculation about whether she is tipsy or drunk at these games, which would change interpretations of her behavior (in some cases perhaps being more forgiving of some of the behavior that seems "extra"). I guess maybe some people called her a drunk? But like the comments where people call her ugly or that her eggs are "dried up," I tend to view those comments as typical trollish DCUM behavior and disregard. Does anyone reasonable think Swift is too old, a drunk, or unattractive? No. So I just don't really even give those comments much thought. They are dumb. |
Anonymous
But that is the price you pay when you live your life in a public sphere. Do you really believe not a negative word should ever be said? That cautionary tale has already been made. Go read the Emperor’s New Clothes. Without speculation and questioning from the populace about famous entertainers, corporations and politicians we would be a bunch of sheep-people. Taylor doesn’t get a get out of fame free card. Everything has down sides. |
Anonymous
I didn’t argue whether she was fair game. I just noted the list seemed accurate to me. |
Anonymous
Except as explained above, the list was NOT accurate and described things that have not occurred in the thread. |
Anonymous
Oh- I read this part of what your wrote: “I’ll add that I think declaring someone’s relationship as fake is tearing one down,” As you believing speculation was the same as tearing down. I see it as a healthy response to what they put out as PR. It WAS faked; the convertible, the sweatsuit etc and having a “that’s fake” reaction was a normal, healthy instinctual response. |
Anonymous
I actually don’t give a $hit. I think you’re disingenuous and a spin doctor, but what the hell do I care. Have fun writing more novels in your theories. |