Kate's New Picture

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Anonymous wrote:This is a major reach but I’m sorta into it.

https://x.com/eloisehendy/status/1767333815393874018?s=46&t=LrNUXUfApHHcCAWJyNQ_qg

I’m in. Yikes.

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I am not one to believe conspiracy theories, but if this Spanish reporter has as good a reputation as claimed and she double downed, then I think Kate may actually be in a coma. Eating disorders can damage internal organs, if laxatives were involved she could absolutely need abdominal surgery. If your body is malnourished and shutting down from an ED you are not in great shape for anesthesia.

I was into the Crohn's theory for a while, and sure you can have flairs and issues with stress, but I remember reading about her diet her mom shared back when she lost a lot of weight pre-marriage and it was definitely concerning enough I was shocked she was fertile enough to have kids.

If she were not in grave condition she would be photographed unless it's a ploy being used in an upcoming divorce. Still I am sure even American reporters are stalking her and someone would see her walking around.

I really hope she didn't end up in the hospital from DV. Definitely think there is a lot of conflict if the press is now getting "stories" that she is volatile. They are starting to throw her under the bus.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

You guys aren’t getting it. The Mother’s Day photo wasn’t “edited” in the way you’re thinking. They either spliced in different images of the kids/kate or completely retouched a photo from 2023 to pass it off as something more recent. This wasn’t some innocent contouring or lighting changes.

So what?

The picture in and of itself is not the problem. It’s more so the back and forth spat over whether Kates medical emergency was planned or not.

The Palace claims it was a planned procedure but why would they announce an Italy vacation if they knew Kate had a planned procedure in January that would keep her out of commission till Easter? It’s obvious whatever happened was not planned. The ambulance on December 28th hints to that as well.

The Palace is so antiquated about health . It created more fuss than was needed. It was obvious King Charles noted that and decided to be very specific about his health when saying he has cancer . If it weren’t for the Kate drama, maybe he would have never told the world that either and he would’ve hid that as well

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Anonymous wrote:January 20, 2024- The Sunday Times reports that Kensington Palace aides did not notify Kate’s 30 charities and patronages “to confirm postponing and rescheduling engagements” until one week before her surgery. The paper notes that Kate will be “work[ing] from bed” and “aides insist her work will not stall.”
(This claim about working in bed will be brought up later as conspiracy theories start to flourish. During the pandemic, Kate regularly held Zoom calls with these institutions, and screenshots of these meetings were released to the press. Questions will be raised about why any images of Kate or updates/anecdotes from employees of the institutions haven’t leaked, if she’s been working while she recovers.)

January 24, 2024- People magazine’s royal reporter writes that Kate’s hospitalization was unexpected. “The carefully guarded news about Kate’s situation came as a surprise even to those who work closely with the royal family, PEOPLE understands.” (This is later also reported by Page Six.) These details are seen as more indications that Kate’s health situation was more dire than has been reported.

January 24, 2024- U.K. tabloid the Mirror publishes a story titled “Kate ‘your best friend one minute and worst enemy the next’, expert claims.” The Mirror sources the story from what it describes as “a recent article for the Daily Mail” written by royal reporter Robert Jobson — but links to a post from 2022. The story alleges that William and Kate have “quite extreme mood swings” and claims that the two “give as good as they get” in fights with each other. Within hours, however, the story is updated and Kate’s name is replaced with Harry’s. The title of the story now live on the Mirror’s website is “Prince Harry ‘your best friend one minute and worst enemy the next,’ expert claims.” The Mirror adds an editorial note to the bottom of the post reading, “A previous version of this story erroneously referred to Kate, Princess of Wales, instead of Prince Harry” and removes the link to the 2022 Daily Mail story — the link now redirects to the Daily Mail’s homepage.
This is just weird. It’s being seized upon by conspiracy theorists as an apparent example of the royal press offices directing a media outlet to change a story, or a media outlet trying to write a story about a possible conflict in the Waleses’ marriage. In all likelihood this was someone looking to make a story quota who messed up.

January 25, 2024- The Sun reports that William has visited Kate in the hospital every day, but says her children have not visited (children are not allowed in the London Clinic, per hospital policy; multiple outlets later report that William and Kate did not want to disrupt their children’s schedules and used FaceTime to stay in touch). (While royal children of the previous generation visited relatives when they were in hospitals, this is the first time we’ve known about either William and Kate needing inpatient treatment. There’s no precedent — there’s a big difference between the children visiting their mother and new sibling at a hospital and children visiting their mother after major surgery.)

January 26, 2024- The King is admitted to the London Clinic for his prostate treatment and members of the press are apparently once again allowed to gather outside the London Clinic. The Queen is photographed leaving the hospital in the afternoon, after apparently arriving with the King for his treatment (the arrival was not photographed) earlier that day. People magazine reports that the King has visited Kate. The Queen is photographed once again visiting the King in the hospital that evening.

January 27, 2024- The Queen is photographed arriving at and leaving the hospital.

January 28, 2024- The Queen is once again photographed visiting her husband at the London Clinic. Note: Whether purposeful or not, the Queen’s public arrivals and departures at the hospital make an obvious contrast to William’s apparent absence.

January 28, 2024- Spanish journalist Concha Calleja doubles down on her report that Kate is in medical distress and claims that the princess is in a medically induced coma. Prominent Spanish media outlets begin to report her claims. Note: Although this story has been bubbling under the surface of the discourse about Kate’s condition, it really begins to spread now.

January 29, 2024- Kensington Palace announces Kate has returned home , is making good progress , and will recover privately . The Daily Mail later reports that William drove her home. Despite the fact that members of the media were apparently set up around the hospital in order to photograph the King and Queen, her departure is not photographed.

January 29, 2024- The King leaves the hospital. He and the Queen smile and wave for photographers outside of the London Clinic. Once again, we have a very public contrast between the King and Kate. Obviously they both are experiencing very different issues and have very different responsibilities, but it nonetheless draws attention to the differences.

Why are you just copy and pasting huge sections of that Nielsen Labs article? Just link to the article and then say what you have to say. I should probably report these because you actually are not supposed to just cut and paste stuff like this without providing context.

The context is that the crazy stories originated within Meghan and Harry fan spaces, as I figured. The Royal Family is doing themselves no favors by being coy, however.

Ok well if you want to make that point, you need to actually write it with your own words. You can quote pieces of that article to back up your point if you want to, but you can't just cut and paste huge chunks of someone else's writing and post them here without attribution and expect other posters to understand the point you are trying to make without spelling it out.

I reported your posts, try again.

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Anonymous wrote:This reporter did not impress me at first (she worked for buzzfeed news) but in reading her interview, she notes some interesting points regarding the rarity of Kensington palace responding to what is basically gossip (but doing so now), the rare footage of ambulance on 12/28, the Spanish reporter who doubled down on idea that Kate was quite seriously ill, etc. It's a good timeline of events as well as a good summary on how UK royal rota and tabloids in UK functioned and past and are behaving in the midst of this story.

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/

This is pretty much what I figured: "It’s worth noting that a lot of the conversation was initially driven by pro-Harry and Meghan accounts, and many of the darker conspiracy theories (the ones described as “deeply sinister and highly libelous” by the Daily Mail) seemed to originate from those online spaces."

"I’m not saying this is “The Crown’s” fault, but it doesn’t help matters that for years pop culture has been dominated by a fictionalized narrative that depicts the monarchy and its employees scheming behind the scenes and manipulating the media, happily throwing certain members of the royal family under a bus in service to the overriding goal of preserving the power of the sovereign. Even without the Netflix series, a lot of people still hold a grudge against the royals because of Princess Diana and wonder about the circumstances of her death. I also feel like a lot of this distrust stems from what Harry and Meghan have said since leaving working royal life. Their descriptions of a back-stabbing, Machiavellian organization in interviews and Harry’s memoir Spare have definitely made an impact on the public’s perception of the monarchy and the royal reporting beat."

We forget that Diana, in all of her beauty and deep compassion, was also a provocative "flame thrower" toward the Royal family during her most painful years and Harry became the same. She did the public interview discussing her and her husband's affairs, she woukd take her young son to interviews and dissertation their father. She still however, deeply respected and saw her mission as one that was embedded in the monarchy while married and while she dissed it, she still respected it. Her son, not so much.

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It also doesn’t help that Charles and Kate were at London Clinic at the same time. Camilla was photographed there every day.

Will was not. Maybe he was staying with the kids ? But it’s odd the palace said he drove her home when photographers said they were there and didn’t see him

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Anonymous wrote:This reporter did not impress me at first (she worked for buzzfeed news) but in reading her interview, she notes some interesting points regarding the rarity of Kensington palace responding to what is basically gossip (but doing so now), the rare footage of ambulance on 12/28, the Spanish reporter who doubled down on idea that Kate was quite seriously ill, etc. It's a good timeline of events as well as a good summary on how UK royal rota and tabloids in UK functioned and past and are behaving in the midst of this story.

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/

This is pretty much what I figured: "It’s worth noting that a lot of the conversation was initially driven by pro-Harry and Meghan accounts, and many of the darker conspiracy theories (the ones described as “deeply sinister and highly libelous” by the Daily Mail) seemed to originate from those online spaces."

"I’m not saying this is “The Crown’s” fault, but it doesn’t help matters that for years pop culture has been dominated by a fictionalized narrative that depicts the monarchy and its employees scheming behind the scenes and manipulating the media, happily throwing certain members of the royal family under a bus in service to the overriding goal of preserving the power of the sovereign. Even without the Netflix series, a lot of people still hold a grudge against the royals because of Princess Diana and wonder about the circumstances of her death. I also feel like a lot of this distrust stems from what Harry and Meghan have said since leaving working royal life. Their descriptions of a back-stabbing, Machiavellian organization in interviews and Harry’s memoir Spare have definitely made an impact on the public’s perception of the monarchy and the royal reporting beat."

We forget that Diana, in all of her beauty and deep compassion, was also a provocative "flame thrower" toward the Royal family during her most painful years and Harry became the same. She did the public interview discussing her and her husband's affairs, she woukd take her young son to interviews and dissertation their father. She still however, deeply respected and saw her mission as one that was embedded in the monarchy while married and while she dissed it, she still respected it. Her son, not so much.

*dissed their father

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

+1 Also I don't know how their press offices work, but do wire services and other news organizations routinely distribute pics posted on their social media accounts? That's what the problem seems to be.

A family's social media account is not the same as an official "news" photo. The wire services picked up the photo because of the "Where's Kate?" hoopla and failed to ensure a family photo (that would be perfectly fine for tweaking) met their "news standards." In their haste to put out the picture, they obviously didn't follow standard protocols.

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At this point if she healthy enough to be moving around and have makeup applied they would distribute a real photo unless there is a bitter separation. It could be both. The marital conflict and struggles contributed to/set off a health emergency and now even if recovering OK she is playing hard ball. Still I think someone would catch a glimpse of her on a balcony or something. The British press has to follow protocol, but I assume she is fair game to other outlets.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah there’s weirdness for sure, but the car pic is real.

A lot of people are going to be disappointed when she shows up like nothing happened after the kids Easter break.

Nope. Sigh of relief.

And I will be permanently bummed that KP threw Catherine under the bus.

Me too. What a nasty stain KP created.

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Anonymous wrote:So the actual story is that Kate Middleton has an eating disorder and collapsed right after Christmas because of her eating disorder. It's pretty bad and the abdominal surgery was to fix some of the damage her eating disorder did to her organs. She then needed to go to in-patient treatment. The royals are freaks about mental health issue and let her obvious eating disorder go way too long without any intervention. Now they're covering it up because they can't even say "The princess is suffering from exhaustion, has been admitted to inpatient rehabilitation and needs time and privacy to recover"which is the euphemistic way an an American PR firm would handle it for an American celebrity.

The palace is awful. Poor woman.

Oh, I can feel your sorrow for Kate. So there were surgeries plural on organs to save her? Wow. Like so so sad. I wonder if having the third baby and competing against one of the greatest beauties ever seen on the USA Network contributed? Do you think so? Because that’s really adding to the tragic circumstances. If Kate had had the strength to wait out the semaglutide revolution like a certain selfless philanthropist, might all of the surgeries plural and tragedies been averted?

Yes, it’s the palace that is awful. It’s really touching to finally read some sincere concern on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

You guys aren’t getting it. The Mother’s Day photo wasn’t “edited” in the way you’re thinking. They either spliced in different images of the kids/kate or completely retouched a photo from 2023 to pass it off as something more recent. This wasn’t some innocent contouring or lighting changes.

So what?

You’re purposely moving the conversation back to around page 2 of this thread. I’m guessing to continue to obfuscate the entire discussion. But AP & Reuters issued the kill on the photo and news agencies the world over have reported on it. Almost all indicating it was not a good move/look for KP. KP even issued a “my bad” statement. You really need to move beyond the “so what”. Makes you look like an ignorant fool.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

You guys aren’t getting it. The Mother’s Day photo wasn’t “edited” in the way you’re thinking. They either spliced in different images of the kids/kate or completely retouched a photo from 2023 to pass it off as something more recent. This wasn’t some innocent contouring or lighting changes.

Exactly. this wasn't a simple retouching. They were in the wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This reporter did not impress me at first (she worked for buzzfeed news) but in reading her interview, she notes some interesting points regarding the rarity of Kensington palace responding to what is basically gossip (but doing so now), the rare footage of ambulance on 12/28, the Spanish reporter who doubled down on idea that Kate was quite seriously ill, etc. It's a good timeline of events as well as a good summary on how UK royal rota and tabloids in UK functioned and past and are behaving in the midst of this story.

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/

This is pretty much what I figured: "It’s worth noting that a lot of the conversation was initially driven by pro-Harry and Meghan accounts, and many of the darker conspiracy theories (the ones described as “deeply sinister and highly libelous” by the Daily Mail) seemed to originate from those online spaces."

"I’m not saying this is “The Crown’s” fault, but it doesn’t help matters that for years pop culture has been dominated by a fictionalized narrative that depicts the monarchy and its employees scheming behind the scenes and manipulating the media, happily throwing certain members of the royal family under a bus in service to the overriding goal of preserving the power of the sovereign. Even without the Netflix series, a lot of people still hold a grudge against the royals because of Princess Diana and wonder about the circumstances of her death. I also feel like a lot of this distrust stems from what Harry and Meghan have said since leaving working royal life. Their descriptions of a back-stabbing, Machiavellian organization in interviews and Harry’s memoir Spare have definitely made an impact on the public’s perception of the monarchy and the royal reporting beat."

We forget that Diana, in all of her beauty and deep compassion, was also a provocative "flame thrower" toward the Royal family during her most painful years and Harry became the same. She did the public interview discussing her and her husband's affairs, she woukd take her young son to interviews and dissertation their father. She still however, deeply respected and saw her mission as one that was embedded in the monarchy while married and while she dissed it, she still respected it. Her son, not so much.

*dissed their father

I mean. Diana also dissed her dumb younger son. She called him thick; she confided in William because she was immature and lacked stability and boundaries. She had a favorite, and he does not have Brillo pad red hair valiantly growing on parts of his head.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

You guys aren’t getting it. The Mother’s Day photo wasn’t “edited” in the way you’re thinking. They either spliced in different images of the kids/kate or completely retouched a photo from 2023 to pass it off as something more recent. This wasn’t some innocent contouring or lighting changes.

So what?

You’re purposely moving the conversation back to around page 2 of this thread. I’m guessing to continue to obfuscate the entire discussion. But AP & Reuters issued the kill on the photo and news agencies the world over have reported on it. Almost all indicating it was not a good move/look for KP. KP even issued a “my bad” statement. You really need to move beyond the “so what”. Makes you look like an ignorant fool.

That's exactly what it seems like they're doing.