I’m listening to Julie K Brown’s well researched book (she wrote the in-depth Miami Herald article) and Clinton’s secret service was near the island but it was a couple of years before Epstein bought it. One of Clinton’s secret service agents died near the island, which is where the story of him being on the island originated. There is no evidence placing him on the island ever. |
This. Yes. The Epstein files are not being held back because of what they reveal about Trump, that angle is propaganda. They are being held back because of what they reveal about who Epstein was working for. |
I don't know if this is the girl but hope "Tiffany Doe" will come forward again "Jane Doe” aka “Katie Johnson” – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, refiled October 2016 as reported by Buzzfeed and others, then dropped in November 2016. Jane Doe is an unnamed plaintiff, who has also gone by “Katie Johnson” in legal papers. She claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein’s New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — “Tiffany Doe” — said she recruited “Jane Doe” and others. Doe, using the name “Johnson,” gave an interview to the Daily Mail in which she said she did not know who Trump was at the time of the alleged attack but identified him later when she saw him on television. It is not known why she withdrew the lawsuit. She has not spoken publicly or withdrawn her rape allegation since then." |
Virginia Roberts Giuffere said she saw Epstein and Clinton together on Epstein's Island in the Netflix documentary on Epstein. |
What's this "you" in your response? This isn't about me or anyone else in this forum. It's about Trump, who made a VERY SPECIFIC accusation. Stay focused. We need to know why. Trump actually saw the evidence, in which case there's no more denying "there's no Epstein files or client list" or Trump made it up in which case you people need to start rethinking your support for this demented liar, or Trump has some of his own first-hand knowledge of Clinton being there, in which case he needs to be producing some details. |
There is too .much evidence against Maxwell to ever say that she was a victim of Epstein. |
The most likely problem with the Epstein files, whatever they actually comprise, is probably the same as with any "raw" investigative product or intelligence material. It's piles of hearsay, gossip, and unsubstantiated innuendoes. Trying to sort out the truth from the fiction especially decades after the fact is likely impossible. The material is probably extremely defamatory to a lot of very wealthy powerful people. The Steele Dossier is an example of what the release of false defamatory made up materials for political purposes can do.
The looks of concern and fear you saw on kash Patel's and Tulsi Gabbards faces seemed to be the expressions of people who didn't want to get involved as defendants in defamation lawsuits by releasing a bunch of unverified and unverifiable file materials. Even the grand jury transcripts if they were released are generally all complete hearsay. That's routine. And that's one of the reasons for grand jury secrecy But now that Trump is suing the Wall Street Journal we might get some insight into what was going on. The Estates attorney says the Estate has the birthday book. Fine. Produce it and we can see what if anything Trump and any other important friends of Epstein contributed to it. I can't wait. |
An allegation of rape made anonymously in 2016 that was also withdrawn in 2016 should not be presented as proof of anything. |
When it was withdrawn specifically because of death threats, then yes it is. |
It sure sounds like two of his three wives have been Mossad assets. Incredible.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/melania-trump-very-involved-in-epstein-scandal-author/ |
Trump and his MAGA dogs lied themselves into a corner to get him elected. Now what a glorious shit show! Hope they all go down with the pedophile. |
It’s incredibly obvious Donald has been a Mossad asset for literally 50 years. He’s not being extorted with blackmail, he’s a member of the cabal. |
Whatever the truth is, nobody cares about Clinton. He can be arrested with the Trump and the rest of the pedos. |
+100 Not really out of his character. |
Completely agree. Lock them all up |