Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

Received funds? Link?

[Anonymous]

Well, looks like there may possibly be a hold on these plans. This lawsuit is for a different area, but the focus of the lawsuit applies to the Conn Ave changes as well as the other area.

It looks like the district violated federal ADA laws (which they claim they do not need to follow) in not providing adequate access to curbs and sidewalks for disabled drivers and passengers. At least in the Conn Ave changes, they can change the plans to an ADA-accessible option before any construction or road change occurs.

I think it is interesting the demographics that are included in the lawsuit:

As of the 2015 census, about three-quarters of the disabled population in DC was AfricanAmerican, and one-third were over the age of 65. [3]

According to a 2017 D.C. Policy Center report,[4] about double the number of Black peoplein the District drive compared to Caucasians, 47 percent to 27 percent. Bicycle commuters,who often live in the District’s pricier central neighborhoods, are five times as likely to bewhite as Black.[5] Black people are also more likely to take the bus, while white people aremore likely to take the subway.[6]

Cyclists, in contrast, “are predominantly male, between 25 and 40 years old, white, andfrom higher income groups.”[7]

Footnotes:
[3] Coleen Jordan,2015 Disability Characteristics Among DC Residents, DC State Data Ctr. (Aug.2017), https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/publication/attachments/2015%20Disability%20Characteristics%20Among%20DC%20Residents.pdf.
[4] Yesim Sayin,The Demographics of Walking and Biking to Work , DC Pol’y Ctr. (June 6, 2017),https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/the-demographics-of-walking-and-biking-to-work/.
[5] Id.
[6] Id.
[7] Ralph Buehler et al.,Trends and Determinants of Cycling in the Washington, DC Region National Transportation Library Repository & Open Science Access Portal 5 (2011), https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/24356/dot_24356_DS1.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, looks like there may possibly be a hold on these plans. This lawsuit is for a different area, but the focus of the lawsuit applies to the Conn Ave changes as well as the other area.

It looks like the district violated federal ADA laws (which they claim they do not need to follow) in not providing adequate access to curbs and sidewalks for disabled drivers and passengers. At least in the Conn Ave changes, they can change the plans to an ADA-accessible option before any construction or road change occurs.

I think it is interesting the demographics that are included in the lawsuit:

As of the 2015 census, about three-quarters of the disabled population in DC was AfricanAmerican, and one-third were over the age of 65. [3]

According to a 2017 D.C. Policy Center report,[4] about double the number of Black peoplein the District drive compared to Caucasians, 47 percent to 27 percent. Bicycle commuters,who often live in the District’s pricier central neighborhoods, are five times as likely to bewhite as Black.[5] Black people are also more likely to take the bus, while white people aremore likely to take the subway.[6]

Cyclists, in contrast, “are predominantly male, between 25 and 40 years old, white, andfrom higher income groups.”[7]

Footnotes:
[3] Coleen Jordan,2015 Disability Characteristics Among DC Residents, DC State Data Ctr. (Aug.2017), https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/publication/attachments/2015%20Disability%20Characteristics%20Among%20DC%20Residents.pdf.
[4] Yesim Sayin,The Demographics of Walking and Biking to Work , DC Pol’y Ctr. (June 6, 2017),https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/the-demographics-of-walking-and-biking-to-work/.
[5] Id.
[6] Id.
[7] Ralph Buehler et al.,Trends and Determinants of Cycling in the Washington, DC Region National Transportation Library Repository & Open Science Access Portal 5 (2011), https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/24356/dot_24356_DS1.pdf

Not sure we know enough about the prospect of this litigation's success to declare that it's going to hold up the plans for Connecticut Avenue.

But on the demographics, if you think the people who ride their bikes to work are mostly white, wait until you find out who lives near upper Connecticut Avenue in Northwest...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, looks like there may possibly be a hold on these plans. This lawsuit is for a different area, but the focus of the lawsuit applies to the Conn Ave changes as well as the other area.

It looks like the district violated federal ADA laws (which they claim they do not need to follow) in not providing adequate access to curbs and sidewalks for disabled drivers and passengers. At least in the Conn Ave changes, they can change the plans to an ADA-accessible option before any construction or road change occurs.

I think it is interesting the demographics that are included in the lawsuit:

As of the 2015 census, about three-quarters of the disabled population in DC was AfricanAmerican, and one-third were over the age of 65. [3]

According to a 2017 D.C. Policy Center report,[4] about double the number of Black peoplein the District drive compared to Caucasians, 47 percent to 27 percent. Bicycle commuters,who often live in the District’s pricier central neighborhoods, are five times as likely to bewhite as Black.[5] Black people are also more likely to take the bus, while white people aremore likely to take the subway.[6]

Cyclists, in contrast, “are predominantly male, between 25 and 40 years old, white, andfrom higher income groups.”[7]

Footnotes:
[3] Coleen Jordan,2015 Disability Characteristics Among DC Residents, DC State Data Ctr. (Aug.2017), https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/publication/attachments/2015%20Disability%20Characteristics%20Among%20DC%20Residents.pdf.
[4] Yesim Sayin,The Demographics of Walking and Biking to Work , DC Pol’y Ctr. (June 6, 2017),https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/the-demographics-of-walking-and-biking-to-work/.
[5] Id.
[6] Id.
[7] Ralph Buehler et al.,Trends and Determinants of Cycling in the Washington, DC Region National Transportation Library Repository & Open Science Access Portal 5 (2011), https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/24356/dot_24356_DS1.pdf

Not sure we know enough about the prospect of this litigation's success to declare that it's going to hold up the plans for Connecticut Avenue.

But on the demographics, if you think the people who ride their bikes to work are mostly white, wait until you find out who lives near upper Connecticut Avenue in Northwest...

So you're saying there meeds.to be a REAP analysis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, looks like there may possibly be a hold on these plans. This lawsuit is for a different area, but the focus of the lawsuit applies to the Conn Ave changes as well as the other area.

It looks like the district violated federal ADA laws (which they claim they do not need to follow) in not providing adequate access to curbs and sidewalks for disabled drivers and passengers. At least in the Conn Ave changes, they can change the plans to an ADA-accessible option before any construction or road change occurs.

No, because the 17th Street lanes have a specific design. Since CT Ave is in the design phase currently, the engineers can simply avoid the same issues that the lawsuit alleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, looks like there may possibly be a hold on these plans. This lawsuit is for a different area, but the focus of the lawsuit applies to the Conn Ave changes as well as the other area.

It looks like the district violated federal ADA laws (which they claim they do not need to follow) in not providing adequate access to curbs and sidewalks for disabled drivers and passengers. At least in the Conn Ave changes, they can change the plans to an ADA-accessible option before any construction or road change occurs.

No, because the 17th Street lanes have a specific design. Since CT Ave is in the design phase currently, the engineers can simply avoid the same issues that the lawsuit alleges.

I think it's a good idea to take another half lane each side of parked cars to allow for pedestrians with disabilities to get out of their cars when they need to. Also, we can restrict parking to mostly be for people with disabilities.

[Anonymous]

So instead of one lane of 6 being taken, you are suggesting taking 2 of 6?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So instead of one lane of 6 being taken, you are suggesting taking 2 of 6?

Nick, if you really care about disabled people then why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So instead of one lane of 6 being taken, you are suggesting taking 2 of 6?

Nick, if you really care about disabled people then why not?

I've been saying for a while now - any parking on a main road shouldn't be treated any different than the parking nearest a grocery store. All ADA and other groups who need it (parents w/ small kids or pregnant mothers, etc.) all the time. The difference here is that Lee Mayer and Jessica Lee don't actually want that, because they still want to be able to drive down and park in front of their destination and not walk a couple blocks from a side street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All ADA and other groups

Sorry, all ADA groups?

Are you the transphobe from the other bike lane thread? The ADA is a law, not a group of people.

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Anonymous wrote:

Um, citing a study of Danish cyclists?

[Anonymous]

A study is a study.

NIMBYs ask for studies. Not all of them are going to be US based or DC based.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A study is a study.

NIMBYs ask for studies. Not all of them are going to be US based or DC based.

Closer to home here in DC, a DDOT study found that installation of bike infrastructure increased accidents and that 42% of cyclists did not stop at red lights.
https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/ddot_bike_evaluation_summary_final_report_part1_0.pdf