ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Coach here not going to say where.

This thread is highly entertaining. The person that keeps kicking you in the nuts over and over about how things work with olders is 100% correct.

You dont want your kid playing down a grade. It causes so many problems that are easily avoidable by just playing on a team thats your kids grade in school.

Thank you coach wherever.

I know I'm correct because I'm living it right now with an older who has played since they were 3. For all the youngers parents that think they know everything. I also have a 2016 which means I'll be around for a while.

If you commented on your own post that is hilarious and also very sad. I’m 95% you’re just posting on your own comments.

If I’m wrong I’m glad you found someone who can join you on your adventure to fight parents to make their kids play up.

I wish more parents felt shame and embrassment in playing down. Unfortunately playing down seems to be what all the Karen soccer moms are pushing for right now.

If anything, it's because the current system isn't about grade, it's about age, so people are expecting the same under the new system. If you think there should be shame now, then you're calling for that for the majority of players on all the top teams now who likely have some players who play a grade younger on their teams.

Kind of...

Under BY the only not normal situation parents would ever see is trapped players playing up in grade. Since 90% of the parents werent around in 2016 (the last year of SY before switching to BY). People dont remember all the issues SY opens up. Specifically some Aug and Sept birthdays playjng down a grade. Because people arent experienced with the probelms with playing down they are jumping on the bandwagon thinking its the next best thing. (when its not)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

Allow 3 Q3/Q4 players to play in the younger team in the Spring season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coach here not going to say where.

This thread is highly entertaining. The person that keeps kicking you in the nuts over and over about how things work with olders is 100% correct.

You dont want your kid playing down a grade. It causes so many problems that are easily avoidable by just playing on a team thats your kids grade in school.

Thank you coach wherever.

I know I'm correct because I'm living it right now with an older who has played since they were 3. For all the youngers parents that think they know everything. I also have a 2016 which means I'll be around for a while.

If you commented on your own post that is hilarious and also very sad. I’m 95% you’re just posting on your own comments.

If I’m wrong I’m glad you found someone who can join you on your adventure to fight parents to make their kids play up.

I wish more parents felt shame and embrassment in playing down. Unfortunately playing down seems to be what all the Karen soccer moms are pushing for right now.

If anything, it's because the current system isn't about grade, it's about age, so people are expecting the same under the new system. If you think there should be shame now, then you're calling for that for the majority of players on all the top teams now who likely have some players who play a grade younger on their teams.

Kind of...

Under BY the only not normal situation parents would ever see is trapped players playing up in grade. Since 90% of the parents werent around in 2016 (the last year of SY before switching to BY). People dont remember all the issues SY opens up. Specifically some Aug and Sept birthdays playjng down a grade. Because people arent experienced with the probelms with playing down they are jumping on the bandwagon thinking its the next best thing. (when its not)

People understand/see that it's optimal to be in the same grade BUT they also understand that the organizations making the change did so to eliminate trapped players. They didn't say they'd force kids in some states -- understand a team could have 2 Aug kids in 2 different grades -- to play up to align with the their current grade.

[Anonymous]

Here's a calculator that US Soccer has to check what age group your kid is in. Note, it doesn't ask for grade.

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a calculator that US Soccer has to check what age group your kid is in. Note, it doesn't ask for grade.

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

Stop! Facts are not what we want.

We don’t want peace we want problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

MLSN forces all its clubs to join GA on the girls side. GA rebrands and partners with NWSL.

Why would an ECNL club director know that (unless GA and ECNL are merging?)

Sorry forgot to add boys side of the club is MLSN.

Oh, maybe the big changes are just for your club, picking either MLSN/GA or going all in on ECNL.

My kid doesn’t play for the club he coaches at. Made it seem like this was a big soccer change of some kind. Like I said didn’t get much more than that.
We will all find out eventually.

[Anonymous]

It took a while for ecnl to formally announce switch to SY. Rumors that ended up being mostly right swirled for a while. I suspect that same is going on for MLS and GA. Timeline could still be a while, but probably in the works. maybe they are still on the fence and want to see how it works out with two different age systems before deciding? Time will tell, but leaks will happen before any official statements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It took a while for ecnl to formally announce switch to SY. Rumors that ended up being mostly right swirled for a while. I suspect that same is going on for MLS and GA. Timeline could still be a while, but probably in the works. maybe they are still on the fence and want to see how it works out with two different age systems before deciding? Time will tell, but leaks will happen before any official statements.

GA already formally announced SY bro. You are way behind.

US Club announced months ago, so ECNL going SY has been known forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a calculator that US Soccer has to check what age group your kid is in. Note, it doesn't ask for grade.

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

Stop! Facts are not what we want.

We don’t want peace we want problems.

I just tried that calculator and entered an August birthday and my computer froze and blue screened. So check and mate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

MLSN forces all its clubs to join GA on the girls side. GA rebrands and partners with NWSL.

Why would an ECNL club director know that (unless GA and ECNL are merging?)

Sorry forgot to add boys side of the club is MLSN.

Oh, maybe the big changes are just for your club, picking either MLSN/GA or going all in on ECNL.

My kid doesn’t play for the club he coaches at. Made it seem like this was a big soccer change of some kind. Like I said didn’t get much more than that.
We will all find out eventually.

US Soccer launched the MLS the last time the World Cup was hosted in the US in 94. Definite possibility they are planning something but doubt it is centered around youth soccer given their nonresponse to the age change issue 11 months ago. Maybe year round play in college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a calculator that US Soccer has to check what age group your kid is in. Note, it doesn't ask for grade.

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

Stop! Facts are not what we want.

We don’t want peace we want problems.

I just tried that calculator and entered an August birthday and my computer froze and blue screened. So check and mate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a calculator that US Soccer has to check what age group your kid is in. Note, it doesn't ask for grade.

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

Stop! Facts are not what we want.

We don’t want peace we want problems.

I just tried that calculator and entered an August birthday and my computer froze and blue screened. So check and mate.

Buy a new computer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

MLSN forces all its clubs to join GA on the girls side. GA rebrands and partners with NWSL.

Why would an ECNL club director know that (unless GA and ECNL are merging?)

ENCL and USYS are merging ... that is the news, not GA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

MLSN forces all its clubs to join GA on the girls side. GA rebrands and partners with NWSL.

Why would an ECNL club director know that (unless GA and ECNL are merging?)

ENCL and USYS are merging ... that is the news, not GA.

In theory that could work ... USYS has a great structure/presence in every state and is strong with u-littles and annual state tournaments. It's top-tier national league, which used to be much better, currently falling apart as it always lost most of its talent and struggled to attract scouts, whereas that's ECNL specialty. BUT ECNL emerged because USYS was too large/too hard to change. Merging may rob it of its nimbleness to adapt/evolve at the top-tier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a fun topic.

My daughter had private training tonight
He’s ECNL club director in California for a big club. He mentioned big changes are going to be announced in about 6 months.

I tried to ask said he wasn’t allowed to say anything specific right now.

Who’s got the best guess?

MLSN forces all its clubs to join GA on the girls side. GA rebrands and partners with NWSL.

Why would an ECNL club director know that (unless GA and ECNL are merging?)

ENCL and USYS are merging ... that is the news, not GA.

In theory that could work ... USYS has a great structure/presence in every state and is strong with u-littles and annual state tournaments. It's top-tier national league, which used to be much better, currently falling apart as it always lost most of its talent and struggled to attract scouts, whereas that's ECNL specialty. BUT ECNL emerged because USYS was too large/too hard to change. Merging may rob it of its nimbleness to adapt/evolve at the top-tier.

That theory seems pretty far fetched to me. But this "USYS has a great structure/presence in every state" is precisely what is wrong with USYS. There are 50+ state orgs, all run as little fiefdoms. It cannot ever modernize as long as the current structure is in place. ECNL merging with USYS would be like Target deciding to merge with Sears.