Kate's New Picture

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I don't think the car photo is doctored, because it was commissioned by the Daily Mail. I know, I know, it's a tabloid and they suck. But also they have lawyers on staff and know where the line is, and I do not think they could get away with photoshopping a photo like this. The risks would be too great, especially with heightened scrutiny after the Mothers Day photo debacle.

I think the reason people are able to overlay other photos of Kate that are "a match" is because it's the same person -- she has the same profile in both photos. Even easier to do with a profile shot like that where facial expression is less likely to disrupt the photo. If anything, those experiments prove that the woman in the vehicle IS Catherine, because the profile matches up perfectly with other photos of her.

Now, I still take the photo with a grain of salt because I firmly believe that the reason the Daily Mail commissioned that photographer to be in that location at that time is because KP told them to have someone there and they obliged. I also think William and Catherine knew a paparazzo would be there and thus Catherine would have known to turn her face to the wall (and to sit on the side of the car next to the wall) to avoid having her face photographed.

So I think it's a real photo and not photoshopped, but that it was "planted" and that it's no accident that you can barely see Catherine. But I do think it's her.
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.


Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.


Don't people usually edit them to make the photos look better, not to introduce flaws.


Yes, and the edits don't make sense. I've cleaned chocolate off a kids face but never randomly changed a skirt or a shirt to be a different color or pattern. The edits don't track with normal vanity about family photos.
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Anonymous wrote:The car photo is fake too.

https://x.com/mrliamwest/status/1767559938841231523?s=46&t=QqglXhsgC33LWVa3mC0ZAg


I just saw this and it made me do a double take! very damming


Aside from this one thing that made me question it is her hair being in a chignon on the photo. She often wears her hair down and that seems most likely when she was supposedly being dropped off for a private appt., rather than a fussy chignon when the public obviously wasn’t seeing her.


Take a deep breath. You're getting crazy.

The photographers who took the car picture are not amused by your "sleuthing".

"The paparazzo who snapped the pic of Kate Middleton riding alongside Prince William in a car Monday is speaking out to quash online conspiracy theories that the photo was doctored.

“We don’t change our photos in Photoshop other than adjusting the light levels if necessary,” photographer Jim Bennett told The Post."

https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/




Interesting and I’m not really getting crazy. I’m home sick with a fever and cold and this whole situation is providing me with quite a bit of distraction. In all seriousness, I hope she’s okay. She seems like a decent enough person and a loving mom and I certainly don’t wish ill on her or any of them really.

I do think the chignon was of some sort of significance. She presumably wasn’t bothering with that to go to a doctors appt. or go visit her mom even if she has people to do her hair.

No clue if the car photo was doctored, but you can’t really see her hairstyle in it because the image is too dark on that side of the car. There does seem to be a chignon and hat shaped dark shadow there though, so I find the doctoring theory not entirely implausible. A PP just posted a picture of the address where the photo was alleged to have been taken, and it does show why the bricks seem mismatched in the car pic.

I’m ready to believe KP would stoop to anything at this point, but I have one big problem with the theory that this picture is a fake: surely they would have photoshopped in a happy, smiling Kate if they were going to the trouble?


They’re trying to make Kate look difficult
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13187897/amp/Kate-photoshop-William-palace-fake-MAUREEN-CALLAHAN.html Hightlighting this part below because she's right.

'I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused,' she continued.

Note that 'we'. She didn't do this alone. A release such as this goes through many layers, through aides and private secretaries, and perhaps even the King.


I don’t think Kate did this at all. Kate is known for taking family photos. This one was highlighted as being taken by William. So Kate’s too under the weather to be seen publicly, yet she apparently posed for a photo, leaped up from her sickbed to photo edit a picture that William supposedly took (Don’t they have staff for that?), and issued an apology for “confusion “. Sure.


It's pretty clear that KP is operating solely at the direction of William. Catherine is on the outside and is forced to watch her name be used in an unauthorized manner.

It's unclear if she will be allowed back into William's circle. I don't buy for one minute that she approved that photo, used Photoshop, or issued that below-average-intelligence statement. And I'm not convinced she willingly got in the car with William just to be ambushed by one of the Palace's favored paparazzi outfits.

She's on the outs.


Yup. The insta story tells it all. She is being thrown to the wolves by William / KP. When *ever* in the history of ever has something like that gone out?
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.


Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?


Publishing heavily edited photos that misrepresent reality is not good journalism, so of course the AP and all reputable outlets (Reuters, etc) pulled them from publication.

Also, I agree with other commenters that Kate had nothing to do with the photoshop or releasing it. It's BS.
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Anonymous wrote:They should just come out and talk about the complications post surgery and ask for people to respect their privacy and that the return of Kate to public life may be longer than initially thought. I think people could respect that. Many folks are saying at some point in her recovery, she’s had a stroke, which has Complicated things


No, she shouldn’t reveal private information because people are nosy jerks


The intrigue into the British royal family is why they’re still around. Otherwise, who cares about them visiting daycare, churches, etc. they can’t have it both ways.


Exactly. They're a huge draw for visitors from all around the world to come to England, and spend buckets of money. If they were just another rich family, the English economy would certainly be hurt.


Aside from the once a decade royal wedding/coronation/jubilee, is this really true, though? Without the royal family, tourists would come to still visit Windsor just like they visit Versailles.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a really nice article that lays out how the whole monrachy/press system works. For those of us that need a primer.

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/?fbclid=IwAR0IUvXPKx0unj3SCEjQntNCQGTi1dC8uVOKLVZximV9ZneLt076ffjBukg


This was incredibly useful, thank you! I learned a bunch of things, but two that jump out:

- KP has blatantly lied about William's health before. Apparently William had a severe case of Covid in April 2022 but when asked numerous times if the Prince had ever had Covid, reps vehemently denied it. It wasn't revealed until November of that year that he'd been sick with it. This is so fascinating to me because I just can't imagine why you would lie about this. Most people have had Covid at least once at this point. It sounds like he was quite sick but was not hospitalized, so one of the "flu-like" cases (mine was similar). Why would you cover this up? I don't get it.

- The details about how when KP is talking to the press or "authorizing" a paparazzi photo or not. I kind of knew some of this (like I knew about the royal rota and about the voluntary gag order on pap photos in the British press) but it was really useful to have it laid out so clearly.

I really recommend reading that whole piece if you are interested in this story, including the interview, as it was very revealing.


I read the article. Very great read! What stuck out to me was Harry and Meghan were likely right and telling the truth when complaining about how Kensington Palace leaks fake stories about Harry and Megan to distract from the real marital drama of Will&Kate.

The British tabloids get a drip feed and access from royal family /royal press and they are all respecting Kates privacy and not publishing salacious stories like they did about Meghan, Diana, Fergie.

The royals are protecting Kate so long as she stays in their dominion. If she ever taps out, they will send the dogs (tabloids) after her viciously.

The royal press/KP almost never respond to royal gossip or make public statements but had to do so three times just this year alone to deny Kate is missing social media fervor. They have a tradition of never responding to social media or tabloid articles or gossip whatsoever. However, they made an exception for this Spanish journalist who claimed Kate was in a coma.

Why is so much coverage about Kate coming from this Spanish journalist, Concha Calleja? Who is she?
HALL: Concha Calleja is a self-described “writer [and] specialist in profiles, criminology and hunting down those who lie,” the host of the Spanish television show “Fiesta” (which has a reported audience of 900,000) and she’s been one of the most interesting bits of this entire saga. She’s the only prominent reporter (so far) to challenge Kensington Palace’s narrative about the Princess of Wales, and her reporting prompted the Wales’s press team to take the rare step of going on the record to refute a story.
Calleja came onto the scene soon after Kensington Palace announced that Kate had been hospitalized. She first reported that Kate had actually been admitted to the hospital in December and wasn’t doing well, and then claimed that the princess had to be placed in a medically induced coma. Her credibility, at least in Spain, is such that mainstream outlets quickly picked up both reports.

Her stories might have stayed under the radar if Kensington Palace hadn’t gone on the record with the Times of London to refute the report that Kate was in a coma. Royal press teams don’t usually comment at all, let alone on specific stories, and, ironically, by releasing a statement the Palace drew even more attention to Calleja’s reporting.

In a bold move, following the publication of the Times of London story, Calleja doubled down on her reporting, stating that she trusted her source 100% and claiming that Kensington Palace was upset that she had discovered the truth.

Calleja claims to have covered the royal family for 27 years. According to her website, she has written two books about Princess Diana, one of which is an investigation into the conspiracy theory that the beloved royal was murdered. [Ed. note: Another one of Calleja’s books suggests Michael Jackson was murdered
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.


Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?
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Anonymous wrote:The car photo is fake too.

https://x.com/mrliamwest/status/1767559938841231523?s=46&t=QqglXhsgC33LWVa3mC0ZAg


I just saw this and it made me do a double take! very damming


Aside from this one thing that made me question it is her hair being in a chignon on the photo. She often wears her hair down and that seems most likely when she was supposedly being dropped off for a private appt., rather than a fussy chignon when the public obviously wasn’t seeing her.


Take a deep breath. You're getting crazy.

The photographers who took the car picture are not amused by your "sleuthing".

"The paparazzo who snapped the pic of Kate Middleton riding alongside Prince William in a car Monday is speaking out to quash online conspiracy theories that the photo was doctored.

“We don’t change our photos in Photoshop other than adjusting the light levels if necessary,” photographer Jim Bennett told The Post."

https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/




Interesting and I’m not really getting crazy. I’m home sick with a fever and cold and this whole situation is providing me with quite a bit of distraction. In all seriousness, I hope she’s okay. She seems like a decent enough person and a loving mom and I certainly don’t wish ill on her or any of them really.

I do think the chignon was of some sort of significance. She presumably wasn’t bothering with that to go to a doctors appt. or go visit her mom even if she has people to do her hair.

No clue if the car photo was doctored, but you can’t really see her hairstyle in it because the image is too dark on that side of the car. There does seem to be a chignon and hat shaped dark shadow there though, so I find the doctoring theory not entirely implausible. A PP just posted a picture of the address where the photo was alleged to have been taken, and it does show why the bricks seem mismatched in the car pic.

I’m ready to believe KP would stoop to anything at this point, but I have one big problem with the theory that this picture is a fake: surely they would have photoshopped in a happy, smiling Kate if they were going to the trouble?


They’re trying to make Kate look difficult


That may be your interpretation. But there have been many authorized pics over the years of people in their cars, sometimes clearer than other times. . It's totally normal.

They're trying not to respond to the social media gossip, which would validate it and set expectations that they don't want. But they still need to do something, since the situation has gotten so wildly out of control.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the car photo is doctored, because it was commissioned by the Daily Mail. I know, I know, it's a tabloid and they suck. But also they have lawyers on staff and know where the line is, and I do not think they could get away with photoshopping a photo like this. The risks would be too great, especially with heightened scrutiny after the Mothers Day photo debacle.

I think the reason people are able to overlay other photos of Kate that are "a match" is because it's the same person -- she has the same profile in both photos. Even easier to do with a profile shot like that where facial expression is less likely to disrupt the photo. If anything, those experiments prove that the woman in the vehicle IS Catherine, because the profile matches up perfectly with other photos of her.

Now, I still take the photo with a grain of salt because I firmly believe that the reason the Daily Mail commissioned that photographer to be in that location at that time is because KP told them to have someone there and they obliged. I also think William and Catherine knew a paparazzo would be there and thus Catherine would have known to turn her face to the wall (and to sit on the side of the car next to the wall) to avoid having her face photographed.

So I think it's a real photo and not photoshopped, but that it was "planted" and that it's no accident that you can barely see Catherine. But I do think it's her.


But it's so bizarre to "plant" something like this and then have it be such a bad photo. Just adds to all the speculation. Plus, the bricks don't match. Maybe part of the architecture? But it looks weird, and the BRF isn't exactly trustworthy with regards to photos at this particular moment in time.
Anonymous
Could it be that Rose Hanbury, his mistress, that was in the car with William?
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.


Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?


I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.
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Anonymous wrote:The car photo is fake too.

https://x.com/mrliamwest/status/1767559938841231523?s=46&t=QqglXhsgC33LWVa3mC0ZAg


I just saw this and it made me do a double take! very damming


Aside from this one thing that made me question it is her hair being in a chignon on the photo. She often wears her hair down and that seems most likely when she was supposedly being dropped off for a private appt., rather than a fussy chignon when the public obviously wasn’t seeing her.


Take a deep breath. You're getting crazy.

The photographers who took the car picture are not amused by your "sleuthing".

"The paparazzo who snapped the pic of Kate Middleton riding alongside Prince William in a car Monday is speaking out to quash online conspiracy theories that the photo was doctored.

“We don’t change our photos in Photoshop other than adjusting the light levels if necessary,” photographer Jim Bennett told The Post."

https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/




Interesting and I’m not really getting crazy. I’m home sick with a fever and cold and this whole situation is providing me with quite a bit of distraction. In all seriousness, I hope she’s okay. She seems like a decent enough person and a loving mom and I certainly don’t wish ill on her or any of them really.

I do think the chignon was of some sort of significance. She presumably wasn’t bothering with that to go to a doctors appt. or go visit her mom even if she has people to do her hair.

No clue if the car photo was doctored, but you can’t really see her hairstyle in it because the image is too dark on that side of the car. There does seem to be a chignon and hat shaped dark shadow there though, so I find the doctoring theory not entirely implausible. A PP just posted a picture of the address where the photo was alleged to have been taken, and it does show why the bricks seem mismatched in the car pic.

I’m ready to believe KP would stoop to anything at this point, but I have one big problem with the theory that this picture is a fake: surely they would have photoshopped in a happy, smiling Kate if they were going to the trouble?


They’re trying to make Kate look difficult


That may be your interpretation. But there have been many authorized pics over the years of people in their cars, sometimes clearer than other times. . It's totally normal.

They're trying not to respond to the social media gossip, which would validate it and set expectations that they don't want. But they still need to do something, since the situation has gotten so wildly out of control.


PP was referencing the issues with the mother's day photo, not either of the car photos.
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