East coast gas shortage

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand people's reaction at all. I've only used a few tanks of gas during the whole pandemic. Can understand why people who need gasoline to do their jobs might panic (like landscaping companies, Uber, etc..) but the average person? Get enough gas to go to work, and everything else is optional. Near me, it's the stations in the wealthiest areas that are selling out constantly.

I swear my fellow Americans are getting more stupid by the minute.

My parents took the auto train down to Florida and are making their way back up to DC right now, stopping to visit friends along the way. They are topping off periodically and have been talking to the gas station owners as they do. Everyone has said that the problem is 90% hoarding and 10% actual shortage. I don’t understand why the owners don’t put a limit on how much gas each customer can buy. Literally any pump has this capability.

If they are topping off periodically, isn’t that hoarding?

No, because they will need more than one tank to get from South Carolina where they are now to DC. Hoarding is the people in front of them in line with multiple 10-gallon containers.

A 10 gallon gas container costs about $79. It’s not a usual consumer size. Most people have a 2 or 5 gallon gas container to use when the cut their lawn for their lawnmower.

Our cars have gas. Last evening I needed a gallon for the lawnmower. If this were a real emergency I would not cut the lawn. I checked Gas Buddy and a station near me had plenty with no line at 7 pm. By the way it’s almost impossible to siphon gas from a modern car or I would have done that. I think the whole point of the cyber attack was to watch how quickly Americans devolve and panic.

The point of the attack was to hold a company's IT system for ransom. The company's billing system got affected, so they didn't know how to charge people for the pipeline use. So they shut down the pipeline.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand people's reaction at all. I've only used a few tanks of gas during the whole pandemic. Can understand why people who need gasoline to do their jobs might panic (like landscaping companies, Uber, etc..) but the average person? Get enough gas to go to work, and everything else is optional. Near me, it's the stations in the wealthiest areas that are selling out constantly.

I swear my fellow Americans are getting more stupid by the minute.

My parents took the auto train down to Florida and are making their way back up to DC right now, stopping to visit friends along the way. They are topping off periodically and have been talking to the gas station owners as they do. Everyone has said that the problem is 90% hoarding and 10% actual shortage. I don’t understand why the owners don’t put a limit on how much gas each customer can buy. Literally any pump has this capability.

If they are topping off periodically, isn’t that hoarding?

No, because they will need more than one tank to get from South Carolina where they are now to DC. Hoarding is the people in front of them in line with multiple 10-gallon containers.

A 10 gallon gas container costs about $79. It’s not a usual consumer size. Most people have a 2 or 5 gallon gas container to use when the cut their lawn for their lawnmower.

Our cars have gas. Last evening I needed a gallon for the lawnmower. If this were a real emergency I would not cut the lawn. I checked Gas Buddy and a station near me had plenty with no line at 7 pm. By the way it’s almost impossible to siphon gas from a modern car or I would have done that. I think the whole point of the cyber attack was to watch how quickly Americans devolve and panic.

The point of the attack was to hold a company's IT system for ransom. The company's billing system got affected, so they didn't know how to charge people for the pipeline use. So they shut down the pipeline.

No PP was right. This was a Russian attack to see where we have weakness and how we react. Russia is a best a third rate power. Somewhere close to a UK or France. But their cyber is first class all the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop buying those unnecessary gas guzzlers!

Why? Not sure of your logic.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy life under the demented perv regime. A year from now you will pay $10/gallon and will be glad you were able to find it.

I could go for a mean tweet and cheap gas.

Come back two weeks from now. I am sure you will have to move on to new things to complain.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand people's reaction at all. I've only used a few tanks of gas during the whole pandemic. Can understand why people who need gasoline to do their jobs might panic (like landscaping companies, Uber, etc..) but the average person? Get enough gas to go to work, and everything else is optional. Near me, it's the stations in the wealthiest areas that are selling out constantly.

I swear my fellow Americans are getting more stupid by the minute.

My parents took the auto train down to Florida and are making their way back up to DC right now, stopping to visit friends along the way. They are topping off periodically and have been talking to the gas station owners as they do. Everyone has said that the problem is 90% hoarding and 10% actual shortage. I don’t understand why the owners don’t put a limit on how much gas each customer can buy. Literally any pump has this capability.

If they are topping off periodically, isn’t that hoarding?

DP. NO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The cyber attack is a test run for later ones.

They did this with elections, they did this in Ukraine and other countries.

We are woefully unprepared.

We are woefully dependent upon electronics and internet. Why in the hell do these systems not have manual backup?????

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The cyber attack is a test run for later ones.

They did this with elections, they did this in Ukraine and other countries.

We are woefully unprepared.

We are woefully dependent upon electronics and internet. Why in the hell do these systems not have manual backup?????

Cost. It is also why cyber attacks are so prevalent. Cost. It is always the balancing of cost/benefit (realized) and risk/return (future). Please read up on the trade-offs between risk and return. You need to understand this if you are to live life and make thoughtful decisions. We are unprepared because we've all chosen to be as it would be too expensive to be fully prepared and safe. Now, we will see the balances tip towards safety and you'll see the cost (price) of software and software services rise soon. A lot. This will be passed onto businesses that use software (all), which will ultimately pass them on to consumers. To be safe, it will cost more.

[Anonymous]

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The cyber attack is a test run for later ones.

They did this with elections, they did this in Ukraine and other countries.

We are woefully unprepared.

We are woefully dependent upon electronics and internet. Why in the hell do these systems not have manual backup?????

This shutdown was because the billing system was hacked. n order to have manual backup you would have to have a lot of people employed to sit around most of the time. A lot of people.

[Anonymous]

^ You would need to pay more for your gas and/or profits for Colonial would go down and shareholders might be a tad upset. Unless the big bad government audits the security for these private companies in the energy sector and requires up to date security, they won't do it because it costs $$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ You would need to pay more for your gas and/or profits for Colonial would go down and shareholders might be a tad upset. Unless the big bad government audits the security for these private companies in the energy sector and requires up to date security, they won't do it because it costs $$.

Another reason the shareholder is bogus and ruining the country.

[Anonymous]

Gas should be raised to $10 a gallon so people that do not need it will not top off their tanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ You would need to pay more for your gas and/or profits for Colonial would go down and shareholders might be a tad upset. Unless the big bad government audits the security for these private companies in the energy sector and requires up to date security, they won't do it because it costs $$.

How did it work before digital? And what were corporate and shareholder profits back then, relative to now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gas should be raised to $10 a gallon so people that do not need it will not top off their tanks.

And for the people who do need it? Or do you not care about bankrupting small businesses and putting even more stress on low-wage and essential workers?

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Anonymous wrote:Hacker/extortionist be like Damn that was easy, I should have asked for more 10 million more in Bitcoin.

I am sure the company will get an email next week. They have shown that they are vulnerable to extortion.

[Anonymous]

So many morons. No wonder hackers are targeting us.