Kim and Kanye divorce

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

Most couples with young children will at least try to maintain cordial relationships. Kim tried. It didn’t work.

Most people can’t really control their family members, much less the the significant others of their family members. So telling everyone to stop engaging — when Travis Scott and Kanye have their own relationship and loyalties— is only going to be successful when absolutely everyone, including the kids, is on the same page.

I’m not sure how your family works, but “allowing family and friends to text” isn’t something that most of us can control.
So yes, it’s toxic. And navigating the needs of the parents and the needs of the kids, in the midst of family turmoil impacted by mental illness and competing — possibly conflicting — needs can take quite a bit of trial and error, along with ongoing adjustments.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

Most couples with young children will at least try to maintain cordial relationships. Kim tried. It didn’t work.

Most people can’t really control their family members, much less the the significant others of their family members. So telling everyone to stop engaging — when Travis Scott and Kanye have their own relationship and loyalties— is only going to be successful when absolutely everyone, including the kids, is on the same page.

I’m not sure how your family works, but “allowing family and friends to text” isn’t something that most of us can control.
So yes, it’s toxic. And navigating the needs of the parents and the needs of the kids, in the midst of family turmoil impacted by mental illness and competing — possibly conflicting — needs can take quite a bit of trial and error, along with ongoing adjustments.

If anyone in my family knows I am in a toxic situation why would they text the guy the address to the party? That is a complete violation of privacy. In any world (celebrity or average joe) no family member or friend is going to text the ex an address without consent. That is completely overstepping boundaries. The story just doesn't make sense. to me. Kourtney Kardashian also had no boundaries with Scott for the longest time and her sisters were on her back about it. You can't go on a vacation with your kids and your ex that is in love with you and then say "I don't know why he's acting like that". It's misleading but these girls have been in toxic situations for almost 15 years nothing new.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

I'm hardly a Kim Kardashian apologist. I'm not even a fan...but why are you calling her out for "silly mistakes." Kanye has committed some egregious errors and seems shameless about his pursuit of notoriety over the well-being of his family.

We don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. Both Kim and Kanye know how to play up media attention, and both are guilty. Too bad their kids are involved.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

Most couples with young children will at least try to maintain cordial relationships. Kim tried. It didn’t work.

Most people can’t really control their family members, much less the the significant others of their family members. So telling everyone to stop engaging — when Travis Scott and Kanye have their own relationship and loyalties— is only going to be successful when absolutely everyone, including the kids, is on the same page.

I’m not sure how your family works, but “allowing family and friends to text” isn’t something that most of us can control.
So yes, it’s toxic. And navigating the needs of the parents and the needs of the kids, in the midst of family turmoil impacted by mental illness and competing — possibly conflicting — needs can take quite a bit of trial and error, along with ongoing adjustments.

If anyone in my family knows I am in a toxic situation why would they text the guy the address to the party? That is a complete violation of privacy. In any world (celebrity or average joe) no family member or friend is going to text the ex an address without consent. That is completely overstepping boundaries. The story just doesn't make sense. to me. Kourtney Kardashian also had no boundaries with Scott for the longest time and her sisters were on her back about it. You can't go on a vacation with your kids and your ex that is in love with you and then say "I don't know why he's acting like that". It's misleading but these girls have been in toxic situations for almost 15 years nothing new.

NP, but to be fair it's not her family that's doing this, it's their associates. Travis isn't a family member. And the person that gave him Kim's new phone number was the boyfriend of her friend and ex-assistant. He's also a producer and creative director at Apple so I'm sure Kanye has his own personal relationship with him. They can't control people outside of their inner family circle.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

Most couples with young children will at least try to maintain cordial relationships. Kim tried. It didn’t work.

Most people can’t really control their family members, much less the the significant others of their family members. So telling everyone to stop engaging — when Travis Scott and Kanye have their own relationship and loyalties— is only going to be successful when absolutely everyone, including the kids, is on the same page.

I’m not sure how your family works, but “allowing family and friends to text” isn’t something that most of us can control.
So yes, it’s toxic. And navigating the needs of the parents and the needs of the kids, in the midst of family turmoil impacted by mental illness and competing — possibly conflicting — needs can take quite a bit of trial and error, along with ongoing adjustments.

If anyone in my family knows I am in a toxic situation why would they text the guy the address to the party? That is a complete violation of privacy. In any world (celebrity or average joe) no family member or friend is going to text the ex an address without consent. That is completely overstepping boundaries. The story just doesn't make sense. to me. Kourtney Kardashian also had no boundaries with Scott for the longest time and her sisters were on her back about it. You can't go on a vacation with your kids and your ex that is in love with you and then say "I don't know why he's acting like that". It's misleading but these girls have been in toxic situations for almost 15 years nothing new.

NP, but to be fair it's not her family that's doing this, it's their associates. Travis isn't a family member. And the person that gave him Kim's new phone number was the boyfriend of her friend and ex-assistant. He's also a producer and creative director at Apple so I'm sure Kanye has his own personal relationship with him. They can't control people outside of their inner family circle.

Travis is in the inner circle though...

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

I'm hardly a Kim Kardashian apologist. I'm not even a fan...but why are you calling her out for "silly mistakes." Kanye has committed some egregious errors and seems shameless about his pursuit of notoriety over the well-being of his family.

We don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. Both Kim and Kanye know how to play up media attention, and both are guilty. Too bad their kids are involved.

Oh I'm definitely not saying he's innocent. He is completely out of control. But I don't feel bad for Kim and I have always been a fan of her. I don't understand why she would recreate her wedding at his August concert and go to the Met Gala with him later in the fall? I'm just pointing out she loves being in the limelight and you can't have it both ways. Either you want the limelight or you set clear boundaries. Like how do you recreate your wedding scene after this guy spoke about your potential abortion? I don't even get these people. The things she's done publicly that bring her attention have nothing to do with her kids...

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

+1

Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

I'm hardly a Kim Kardashian apologist. I'm not even a fan...but why are you calling her out for "silly mistakes." Kanye has committed some egregious errors and seems shameless about his pursuit of notoriety over the well-being of his family.

We don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. Both Kim and Kanye know how to play up media attention, and both are guilty. Too bad their kids are involved.

Oh I'm definitely not saying he's innocent. He is completely out of control. But I don't feel bad for Kim and I have always been a fan of her. I don't understand why she would recreate her wedding at his August concert and go to the Met Gala with him later in the fall? I'm just pointing out she loves being in the limelight and you can't have it both ways. Either you want the limelight or you set clear boundaries. Like how do you recreate your wedding scene after this guy spoke about your potential abortion? I don't even get these people. The things she's done publicly that bring her attention have nothing to do with her kids...

I’m obviously not speaking for Kim, but from my own experience. Sometimes, after walking on eggshells, you will do what you can to keep the peace — for the sake of your children. You really don’t know what’s going on outside of the public eye. If you don’t understand what it’s like to be in this kind of situation yourself, count yourself fortunate on many levels.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this likely all fake? He has a new album coming out, fashion stuff... and Kim is washed up and old with no more storylines anyone cares about. Unless you count pretending to be a law student and pretending to date that druggy? They both need scandal and buzz, hence this theater.

Shame if they are using their kids for ”fake” PR. Mostly him from what I can see. Why does he think he has a right to ANY family party Kim or her family hosts? He is no longer part of their family.

My ex-husband absolutely has the right to attend every single birthday party I throw for our children. And my current husband's ex-wife absolutely is welcome at any party we throw for their children. Our respective exes may be OUR exes, but they are still our childrens' parents.

What? No he doesn’t. If you invite him, he has the privilege of attending. But a right? No ma’am.
What does he have a right to? Their school records, time with them as outlined by the custody agreement, medical records and being part of school & medical decisions.

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Kim has established boundaries, like many divorced parents. Separate holiday and birthday celebrations are pretty normal. Kanye is using his kids as pawns to fight with her.

Different poster. I think that's fine, but it sounds like she is not communicating with him. I personally think she should work to find a common ground on communication. I think in her statement she mentioned they speak through a third party. This is weird since they have connected friends and family. Even on the very final episodes of her show she began speaking to him through a mediator which is odd.

It’s not weird. Do you know how many times people in this site have recommended only communicating with their toxic ex in writing through an app? If conversation is going to devolve into fighting, then communication needs to occur in some other way. Also, people can change their minds. Maybe They were trying to be civil. Maybe Kim thought she could support him and be involved in his art but found she couldn’t. Honestly, you’re getting divorced for a reason. If you don’t want to have to go through wedding recreations and whatever crazy stuff your ex wants you to do for his art then you shouldn’t have to. It seems like maybe she had previously agreed to do the wedding thing and felt bad backing out when they decided to split.

It is weird when the whole family is still communicating with him. It's either you set it up and do the mediator and tell everyone to stop engaging with him about their kids or you shutup. She's made some silly mistakes through this whole process. If you want to divorce/separate then SEPARATE. She attended the MET Gala in some batman outfit with him as well. People that have a toxic ex are not going to events, recreating their wedding scene at a concert, and allowing family and friends to text him the location of a birthday party for the parent's event. Seriously!? Is it really toxic then?

I'm hardly a Kim Kardashian apologist. I'm not even a fan...but why are you calling her out for "silly mistakes." Kanye has committed some egregious errors and seems shameless about his pursuit of notoriety over the well-being of his family.

We don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. Both Kim and Kanye know how to play up media attention, and both are guilty. Too bad their kids are involved.

Oh I'm definitely not saying he's innocent. He is completely out of control. But I don't feel bad for Kim and I have always been a fan of her. I don't understand why she would recreate her wedding at his August concert and go to the Met Gala with him later in the fall? I'm just pointing out she loves being in the limelight and you can't have it both ways. Either you want the limelight or you set clear boundaries. Like how do you recreate your wedding scene after this guy spoke about your potential abortion? I don't even get these people. The things she's done publicly that bring her attention have nothing to do with her kids...

I’m obviously not speaking for Kim, but from my own experience. Sometimes, after walking on eggshells, you will do what you can to keep the peace — for the sake of your children. You really don’t know what’s going on outside of the public eye. If you don’t understand what it’s like to be in this kind of situation yourself, count yourself fortunate on many levels.

Again we can comment on the things we’ve seen. It’s interesting people say this yet there have been several things they’ve both done. Everyone I’ve spoken to that’s been in this situation thinks it’s weird she’d do some of this very public stuff with him. But we will find out on the show because I’m sure she will address it like always.

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Also, who knows if there was some sort of contract between Kim and the production company. Or maybe Kanye said he was just going to cancel it if she didn’t do it and then a lot of people would be impacted. Or maybe he said if she didn’t do it then he would tell the world something terrible about her. Or maybe she was just trying to keep him happy.
I don’t know about the whole Met Gala thing. But it seems like she probably did that bc she wanted to go. Was it smart? Probably not in hindsight.

On another note, no way does Travis Scott want to get on Kanye’s bad side. The party was at his house with his kid jointly throwing the party. I’m sure Kris had to think about both her daughters and maybe decided Kanye there would be better than not. It seems like everyone can act civil from the pics of Kris and Kanye talking.

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Why did Kanye say Kim made him get a drug test before seeing his kids? Most parents don’t usually have that power. That is something a court would order. Does Kim have full custody or something and is therefore allowed to say who can see her kids. Like I could request a babysitter get a drug test but my ex can come pick up the kids during his regular time and I can’t stop him and pre-emptively require a drug test. I could not give him the kids when he came if I thought he was impaired. I just can’t imagine Kim saying he had to get a drug test and Kanye actually doing it if he wasn’t required to in some way.

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^^ Maybe he just wanted to keep the peace in that moment and be allowed to attend the party?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Kanye say Kim made him get a drug test before seeing his kids? Most parents don’t usually have that power. That is something a court would order. Does Kim have full custody or something and is therefore allowed to say who can see her kids. Like I could request a babysitter get a drug test but my ex can come pick up the kids during his regular time and I can’t stop him and pre-emptively require a drug test. I could not give him the kids when he came if I thought he was impaired. I just can’t imagine Kim saying he had to get a drug test and Kanye actually doing it if he wasn’t required to in some way.

First, it may —or may not be true.
When I heard this I wondered if it was actually an issue with taking prescribed medications. So the understanding would be that Kanye would need to address his mental health issues — and Kanye, in his rants, turned it into something that he could blame on Kim, that might get people to side with him.

Most parents don’t have that power, but if there’s a history of substance abuse or other behavior that might put the kids at risk, a parent might be required to have supervised visits with their kids, and there might be specific goals that need to be met before altering that plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Kanye say Kim made him get a drug test before seeing his kids? Most parents don’t usually have that power. That is something a court would order. Does Kim have full custody or something and is therefore allowed to say who can see her kids. Like I could request a babysitter get a drug test but my ex can come pick up the kids during his regular time and I can’t stop him and pre-emptively require a drug test. I could not give him the kids when he came if I thought he was impaired. I just can’t imagine Kim saying he had to get a drug test and Kanye actually doing it if he wasn’t required to in some way.

Well if it's his kids birthday and he can't get in then he probably just did it anyway. He could have said I won't do it but then he would have missed the party.