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Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

DP. Ok first of all, this isn't "VT's policy." A lot of people have simply surmised that - AS AT ANY SCHOOL THAT OFFERS ED - it can give you a boost. That's all. Students who apply ED aren't guaranteed admission either, but it certainly makes the case that you're a serious applicant and not just using the school as a safety. Once again, it's well known that any school offering ED does so because they prioritize students who are willing to commit.

Honestly, the whining about this is pretty remarkable considering all the high stats kids who are ALSO rejected from other schools. It's almost as if... some of you actually think your kid was entitled to admission. Nah, that couldn't be it...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

DP. Ok first of all, this isn't "VT's policy." A lot of people have simply surmised that - AS AT ANY SCHOOL THAT OFFERS ED - it can give you a boost. That's all. Students who apply ED aren't guaranteed admission either, but it certainly makes the case that you're a serious applicant and not just using the school as a safety. Once again, it's well known that any school offering ED does so because they prioritize students who are willing to commit.

Honestly, the whining about this is pretty remarkable considering all the high stats kids who are ALSO rejected from other schools. It's almost as if... some of you actually think your kid was entitled to admission. Nah, that couldn't be it...

Since you don't know me or my child, it is easy to make gross generalizations to fit your narrative. You presumption is that people are whining by pointing out that ED isn't the one-size-fits-all solution for every kid that really likes Tech. My point specifically was that there are a group of people that don't fit those two boxes. You're talking about thousands of kids of a wide variety of situations. Yet you want to distill them down to simply A and B.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

It would be nice if VT were more transparent about it, but they are not. The two highest stats kids in our school's Navience data were waitlisted - 4.6/1580 and 4.55/1600 - while kids got accepted with 3.9/1010. Must be that holistic review. So as a public service to all, don't count on VT admission regardless of your stats unless you apply ED.

INSANE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP >> My white high stats kid was accepted (get over it!) and the hand-wringing harpies on this thread are ridiculous. He had no trouble answering the prompt; no kid should. I will be sending messages to the universe that the spot he is declining goes to a POC.

You should not be sending any message on behalf of your high school senior. He does it, not you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

It would be nice if VT were more transparent about it, but they are not. The two highest stats kids in our school's Navience data were waitlisted - 4.6/1580 and 4.55/1600 - while kids got accepted with 3.9/1010. Must be that holistic review. So as a public service to all, don't count on VT admission regardless of your stats unless you apply ED.

INSANE

That's because that is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

It would be nice if VT were more transparent about it, but they are not. The two highest stats kids in our school's Navience data were waitlisted - 4.6/1580 and 4.55/1600 - while kids got accepted with 3.9/1010. Must be that holistic review. So as a public service to all, don't count on VT admission regardless of your stats unless you apply ED.

INSANE

That's because that is a troll.

I’m not the pp but I have seen the same. Middle 3 gpas getting in from our school while higher stats waitlisted.

Don’t go yelling troll when you know nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

It would be nice if VT were more transparent about it, but they are not. The two highest stats kids in our school's Navience data were waitlisted - 4.6/1580 and 4.55/1600 - while kids got accepted with 3.9/1010. Must be that holistic review. So as a public service to all, don't count on VT admission regardless of your stats unless you apply ED.

INSANE

That's because that is a troll.

I’m not the pp but I have seen the same. Middle 3 gpas getting in from our school while higher stats waitlisted.

Don’t go yelling troll when you know nothing.

Having had two kids accepted to VT in the last three years, I'd say I know a little something about their admissions. Both my kids were high stats, no hooks, and both were accepted EA, not even ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

It would be nice if VT were more transparent about it, but they are not. The two highest stats kids in our school's Navience data were waitlisted - 4.6/1580 and 4.55/1600 - while kids got accepted with 3.9/1010. Must be that holistic review. So as a public service to all, don't count on VT admission regardless of your stats unless you apply ED.

INSANE

That's because that is a troll.

I’m not the pp but I have seen the same. Middle 3 gpas getting in from our school while higher stats waitlisted.

Don’t go yelling troll when you know nothing.

Having had two kids accepted to VT in the last three years, I'd say I know a little something about their admissions. Both my kids were high stats, no hooks, and both were accepted EA, not even ED.

No having two kids accepted does not make you an expert on Tech admissions. It makes you a blow hard know it all, but that’s it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

It would be nice if VT were more transparent about it, but they are not. The two highest stats kids in our school's Navience data were waitlisted - 4.6/1580 and 4.55/1600 - while kids got accepted with 3.9/1010. Must be that holistic review. So as a public service to all, don't count on VT admission regardless of your stats unless you apply ED.

INSANE

That's because that is a troll.

I’m not the pp but I have seen the same. Middle 3 gpas getting in from our school while higher stats waitlisted.

Don’t go yelling troll when you know nothing.

Having had two kids accepted to VT in the last three years, I'd say I know a little something about their admissions. Both my kids were high stats, no hooks, and both were accepted EA, not even ED.

No having two kids accepted does not make you an expert on Tech admissions. It makes you a blow hard know it all, but that’s it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

It would be nice if VT were more transparent about it, but they are not. The two highest stats kids in our school's Navience data were waitlisted - 4.6/1580 and 4.55/1600 - while kids got accepted with 3.9/1010. Must be that holistic review. So as a public service to all, don't count on VT admission regardless of your stats unless you apply ED.

INSANE

Yield protection?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s…kinda gross IMO

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students. I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted. You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider. These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly. VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come. The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT. They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known. If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED. If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you. With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change. You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them. Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.

This is a very thoughtful post but neglects a lot of kids that are in between the two categories. One, lots of people aren't aware of VT and the ED situation. Many are the first kids in family applying for schools. At our school visit from Tech in early fall nothing was even implied that they had to go ED if it was their first choice or one of their favorites. So my DC applied EA and also to others EA because they weren't ready to commit in November.

DP. Ok first of all, this isn't "VT's policy." A lot of people have simply surmised that - AS AT ANY SCHOOL THAT OFFERS ED - it can give you a boost. That's all. Students who apply ED aren't guaranteed admission either, but it certainly makes the case that you're a serious applicant and not just using the school as a safety. Once again, it's well known that any school offering ED does so because they prioritize students who are willing to commit.

Honestly, the whining about this is pretty remarkable considering all the high stats kids who are ALSO rejected from other schools. It's almost as if... some of you actually think your kid was entitled to admission[b]. Nah, that couldn't be it...

Please stop. No one on either VT thread is claiming they were entitled to admission. No one. You want to use that word to rac-bait but it is simply not true. What we are seeing, however, is very high stats students not getting in or being deferred to a public university that has a program a lot of these students and families need. That is newsworthy and a valid point of discussion. As pointed out in the other VT thread, other states have different systems that grant admission based upon GPA and stats (Texas). Why has VT become a lottery?