2021 USNews rankings

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Uggg. rich spoiled frat boys. did/does penn have frats?

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Anonymous wrote:UMD now ranked ahead of Penn State.

But behind Pitt.

And people here are also asking, "what is the appeal of pitt?"

It is a strong school!

Pitt and UMD are both much stronger academically than Penn State, yet PSU continues to have enormous appeal. Confusing!

That is your opinion. I don't agree (and didn't attend any of them).

Penn State is effectively an open-enrollment school. If you’re willing to drop 30k at one of their community colleges, you can attend. Half of University Park graduates began at one of the Penn State community colleges. Like it or not, every program on the main campus has to cater to average and below average high school students. For instance, you can get an economics degree from Penn State without even taking calculus! This is unheard of at serious universities.

Pitt has four satellite campuses, or community colleges as you describe them.

Not PP, but that’s a bit different because Pitt doesn’t really take transfers from the branch campuses. My DS was advised not to do it.

Don’t most big state schools take community college transfers?

It’s not that big of a deal since the “real” curriculum for your major usually begins in your junior year.

Penn State also has a number of "controlled majors" where you often need to start at the main campus in order to declare that major.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD now ranked ahead of Penn State.

But behind Pitt.

And people here are also asking, "what is the appeal of pitt?"

It is a strong school!

Pitt and UMD are both much stronger academically than Penn State, yet PSU continues to have enormous appeal. Confusing!

That is your opinion. I don't agree (and didn't attend any of them).

Penn State is effectively an open-enrollment school. If you’re willing to drop 30k at one of their community colleges, you can attend. Half of University Park graduates began at one of the Penn State community colleges. Like it or not, every program on the main campus has to cater to average and below average high school students. For instance, you can get an economics degree from Penn State without even taking calculus! This is unheard of at serious universities.

Pitt has four satellite campuses, or community colleges as you describe them.

Not PP, but that’s a bit different because Pitt doesn’t really take transfers from the branch campuses. My DS was advised not to do it.

Don’t most big state schools take community college transfers?

It’s not that big of a deal since the “real” curriculum for your major usually begins in your junior year.

Penn State also has a number of "controlled majors" where you often need to start at the main campus in order to declare that major.

Lots of kids start at the satellites due to money, not because they're stupid. PSU is pricy (as are the satellites). PSU has a monopoly on transfers in PA.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD now ranked ahead of Penn State.

But behind Pitt.

And people here are also asking, "what is the appeal of pitt?"

It is a strong school!

Pitt and UMD are both much stronger academically than Penn State, yet PSU continues to have enormous appeal. Confusing!

That is your opinion. I don't agree (and didn't attend any of them).

Penn State is effectively an open-enrollment school. If you’re willing to drop 30k at one of their community colleges, you can attend. Half of University Park graduates began at one of the Penn State community colleges. Like it or not, every program on the main campus has to cater to average and below average high school students. For instance, you can get an economics degree from Penn State without even taking calculus! This is unheard of at serious universities.

Pitt has four satellite campuses, or community colleges as you describe them.

Not PP, but that’s a bit different because Pitt doesn’t really take transfers from the branch campuses. My DS was advised not to do it.

Don’t most big state schools take community college transfers?

It’s not that big of a deal since the “real” curriculum for your major usually begins in your junior year.

Penn State also has a number of "controlled majors" where you often need to start at the main campus in order to declare that major.

Also PSU is sink or swim. It “caters” to no one.

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Why Univ of Florida is ranked at 30? The average SAT is 1360 while that from UMCP is 1410. And the individual programs (cs, econ, math) look flimsy.

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Anonymous wrote:Why Univ of Florida is ranked at 30? The average SAT is 1360 while that from UMCP is 1410. And the individual programs (cs, econ, math) look flimsy.

If you are just looking at SAT, Georgia Tech I think would be highest of all state schools. USNWR obviously has multiple criteria. Florida and the entire UC system of schools seemed to rise when the changes were made on Pell Grants and mobility.

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Anonymous wrote:Why Univ of Florida is ranked at 30? The average SAT is 1360 while that from UMCP is 1410. And the individual programs (cs, econ, math) look flimsy.

Are you looking at admitted or enrolled scores for both schools? Admitted is always higher.

And remember, the Florida schools have not gone test optional. They can’t prevent “exceptional talents,” like football recruits from bringing down the average.

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Anonymous wrote:Why Univ of Florida is ranked at 30? The average SAT is 1360 while that from UMCP is 1410. And the individual programs (cs, econ, math) look flimsy.

If you are just looking at SAT, Georgia Tech I think would be highest of all state schools. USNWR obviously has multiple criteria. Florida and the entire UC system of schools seemed to rise when the changes were made on Pell Grants and mobility.

I think UC was always high. And the change in rankings wasn’t that dramatic. I think UF went from the 40s to the 30s and FSU went from around 70 to the high 50s. FSU, in particular, was gradually improving for years before that—especially after they hired a qualified academic for a president after the precious “former football player” jock president stepped down around ten years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Why Univ of Florida is ranked at 30? The average SAT is 1360 while that from UMCP is 1410. And the individual programs (cs, econ, math) look flimsy.

Are you looking at admitted or enrolled scores for both schools? Admitted is always higher.

And remember, the Florida schools have not gone test optional. They can’t prevent “exceptional talents,” like football recruits from bringing down the average.

Florida has the "Bright Futures" scholarship which keeps a lot of strong students in-state at the top schools and also increases the Pell Grant recipients there--that combination works well for USNews even if their students' stats aren't quite as high.

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Anonymous wrote:Why Univ of Florida is ranked at 30? The average SAT is 1360 while that from UMCP is 1410. And the individual programs (cs, econ, math) look flimsy.

Are you looking at admitted or enrolled scores for both schools? Admitted is always higher.

And remember, the Florida schools have not gone test optional. They can’t prevent “exceptional talents,” like football recruits from bringing down the average.

Florida has the "Bright Futures" scholarship which keeps a lot of strong students in-state at the top schools and also increases the Pell Grant recipients there--that combination works well for USNews even if their students' stats aren't quite as high.

UMD also has attracted many strong in-state students. About slightly less than half of the Blair/RM magnets graduates went to UMD this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell dropped to #18, lol. It's basically not an Ivy league any more

We've never considered Cornell to be a legitimate Ivy League school. Yes, they're in our athletic conference. But not even close to being a peer school.

so who is the "we" who has a say in this?

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So, my question to all of you: do you rank your children based on where they get in? do you still love them and respect them if they choose a good fit ranked at about 60? how do you face your friends?

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Anonymous wrote:So, my question to all of you: do you rank your children based on where they get in? do you still love them and respect them if they choose a good fit ranked at about 60? how do you face your friends?

This is a DCUM, so no. My child goes to a school ranked around 100 so we obviously do not even mention it in conversation. It is challenging to face our friends so we don't.

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Anonymous wrote:So, my question to all of you: do you rank your children based on where they get in? do you still love them and respect them if they choose a good fit ranked at about 60? how do you face your friends?

This is a DCUM, so no. My child goes to a school ranked around 100 so we obviously do not even mention it in conversation. It is challenging to face our friends so we don't.

Hopefully you disinherited this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell dropped to #18, lol. It's basically not an Ivy league any more

We've never considered Cornell to be a legitimate Ivy League school. Yes, they're in our athletic conference. But not even close to being a peer school.

so who is the "we" who has a say in this?

Over one night, Cornell stopped being an Ivy, simply b/c USW dropped it by two spots. Vow.


I wonder who is taking this ranking so seriously.