A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?

Anonymous
Who knew that when Trump was ranting about Mueller and it being a witch hunt, he was actually on to something!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will he win?

So many of us are just sick of the MSM reporting. It is pretty sad that when it comes to reporting about Trump, a large number of Americans insist on seeing evidence of the claims made by the MSM because reporting on this president has become so, so ridiculously bad. The past two years, we have been fed lie after lie about Trump and his "nefarious" ties to Russia. When the Russian hoax is promoted daily on the MSM, any contact with anyone remotely Russian looks incriminating, when in actuality, there was nothing to many of these contacts.

Much of the public is tuning out these "reporters." The anchors, the pundits, the "journalists," the former administration talking heads - all of them promoted a false narrative and continue to push fake news. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Matthews.......so sick of the lies. One only has to see their sinking ratings numbers to know that Americans are tuning them out.

So, Trump will win again because Americans realize we are being lied to daily and are sending a huge middle finger to the MSM and the Democrats - one in the same.


Again, Mueller's most recent damning statements about the report say you are wrong.


No, they don't.

the special counsel clown show virtually guarantees trumps reelection.


+1.

I was truly surprised yesterday. Trump couldn't prove himself innocent so he's guilty -- what kind of lawyer or public official thinks that way outside of totalitarian regimes?
Anonymous


It's amazing how Trump fanatics don't want to believe what Mueller really said. He clearly told Congress it was their job to take up the issue now.

He also CLEARLY said it was clear the Russians wanted Trump in office, and did everything they could to make sure that happened.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

It's amazing how Trump fanatics don't want to believe what Mueller really said. He clearly told Congress it was their job to take up the issue now.

He also CLEARLY said it was clear the Russians wanted Trump in office, and did everything they could to make sure that happened.



Tell us, based on a looooooooong report:

What crime was committed?

When?

Where?

By whom?

Mueller's report explicitly said there is no evidence of collussion or cooperation with the Russians by Trump.

So why are you making things up?

Incidentally, did you know that the Ukraine government actively helped the Hillary campaign?

And that, while all this foreign interference was going on, we did have a President in the White House? Who was in charge of the most extensive security apparatus the world has ever known?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

It's amazing how Trump fanatics don't want to believe what Mueller really said. He clearly told Congress it was their job to take up the issue now.

He also CLEARLY said it was clear the Russians wanted Trump in office, and did everything they could to make sure that happened.



No we believe what Mueller said, we are just pointing out that it wasn't Mueller's job to assist Congress to build a case for impeachment. His job was to investigate Russian collusion and criminal obstruction of justice. He did so with regards to Russian collusion and stated his findings that there was sufficient evidence to find Russian meddling in US elections, but insufficient evidence to find a broader conspiracy involving Trump. However, he failed to do his job with regards to the obstruction investigation, refusing to state whether or not he found sufficient evidence for criminal obstruction. He left it up to the interpretation of others, so don't go crying "this is not what I had in mind" when the interpreting doesn't go your way.

In the end, Mueller tried to be cute with his report. The fact that he did not charge *ANYONE* in Trump's campaign with criminal obstruction even though *THEY* are not immune to prosecution demonstrates that his refusal to come to a decision is based on insufficiency of evidence. So instead of giving Trump a clear win, he decided that he wants to instead transform the report into a roadmap for Congress to seek impeachment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It's amazing how Trump fanatics don't want to believe what Mueller really said. He clearly told Congress it was their job to take up the issue now.

He also CLEARLY said it was clear the Russians wanted Trump in office, and did everything they could to make sure that happened.



No we believe what Mueller said, we are just pointing out that it wasn't Mueller's job to assist Congress to build a case for impeachment. His job was to investigate Russian collusion and criminal obstruction of justice. He did so with regards to Russian collusion and stated his findings that there was sufficient evidence to find Russian meddling in US elections, but insufficient evidence to find a broader conspiracy involving Trump. However, he failed to do his job with regards to the obstruction investigation, refusing to state whether or not he found sufficient evidence for criminal obstruction. He left it up to the interpretation of others, so don't go crying "this is not what I had in mind" when the interpreting doesn't go your way.

In the end, Mueller tried to be cute with his report. The fact that he did not charge *ANYONE* in Trump's campaign with criminal obstruction even though *THEY* are not immune to prosecution demonstrates that his refusal to come to a decision is based on insufficiency of evidence. So instead of giving Trump a clear win, he decided that he wants to instead transform the report into a roadmap for Congress to seek impeachment.


What a travesty of "justice."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

It's amazing how Trump fanatics don't want to believe what Mueller really said. He clearly told Congress it was their job to take up the issue now.

He also CLEARLY said it was clear the Russians wanted Trump in office, and did everything they could to make sure that happened.



Mueller:
"As set forth in the report, after that investigation, if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime."


Person X - He's not innocent.
Person Y - He's not guilty.

lol

So . . .if you can't prove he's guilty, he's innocent in the eyes of the "court" b/c there's doubt - or not enough proof.


And again, the Senate is mostly Rs and they follow party line. They are the jury during an impeachment process.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It's amazing how Trump fanatics don't want to believe what Mueller really said. He clearly told Congress it was their job to take up the issue now.

He also CLEARLY said it was clear the Russians wanted Trump in office, and did everything they could to make sure that happened.



Mueller:
"As set forth in the report, after that investigation, if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime."


Person X - He's not innocent.
Person Y - He's not guilty.

lol

So . . .if you can't prove he's guilty, he's innocent in the eyes of the "court" b/c there's doubt - or not enough proof.


And again, the Senate is mostly Rs and they follow party line. They are the jury during an impeachment process.



He is not not not guilty
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who knew that when Trump was ranting about Mueller and it being a witch hunt, he was actually on to something!

And when he said they were spying on his campaign and dc elites and media laughed and laughed.
Now the investigations are rolling and people are sharting themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will he win?

So many of us are just sick of the MSM reporting. It is pretty sad that when it comes to reporting about Trump, a large number of Americans insist on seeing evidence of the claims made by the MSM because reporting on this president has become so, so ridiculously bad. The past two years, we have been fed lie after lie about Trump and his "nefarious" ties to Russia. When the Russian hoax is promoted daily on the MSM, any contact with anyone remotely Russian looks incriminating, when in actuality, there was nothing to many of these contacts.

Much of the public is tuning out these "reporters." The anchors, the pundits, the "journalists," the former administration talking heads - all of them promoted a false narrative and continue to push fake news. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Matthews.......so sick of the lies. One only has to see their sinking ratings numbers to know that Americans are tuning them out.

So, Trump will win again because Americans realize we are being lied to daily and are sending a huge middle finger to the MSM and the Democrats - one in the same.


Again, Mueller's most recent damning statements about the report say you are wrong.


No, they don't.

the special counsel clown show virtually guarantees trumps reelection.


+1.

I was truly surprised yesterday. Trump couldn't prove himself innocent so he's guilty -- what kind of lawyer or public official thinks that way outside of totalitarian regimes?

+1.
Mueller: “I don’t have any evidence but that doesn’t mean he’s innocent.”
Me: Ummmm, it kind of does actually.
Anonymous
Trump needs to go. He is a criminal and a liar! Trump supporters are literally the dumbest people in America.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will he win?

So many of us are just sick of the MSM reporting. It is pretty sad that when it comes to reporting about Trump, a large number of Americans insist on seeing evidence of the claims made by the MSM because reporting on this president has become so, so ridiculously bad. The past two years, we have been fed lie after lie about Trump and his "nefarious" ties to Russia. When the Russian hoax is promoted daily on the MSM, any contact with anyone remotely Russian looks incriminating, when in actuality, there was nothing to many of these contacts.

Much of the public is tuning out these "reporters." The anchors, the pundits, the "journalists," the former administration talking heads - all of them promoted a false narrative and continue to push fake news. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Matthews.......so sick of the lies. One only has to see their sinking ratings numbers to know that Americans are tuning them out.

So, Trump will win again because Americans realize we are being lied to daily and are sending a huge middle finger to the MSM and the Democrats - one in the same.


Again, Mueller's most recent damning statements about the report say you are wrong.


No, they don't.

the special counsel clown show virtually guarantees trumps reelection.


+1.

I was truly surprised yesterday. Trump couldn't prove himself innocent so he's guilty -- what kind of lawyer or public official thinks that way outside of totalitarian regimes?

+1.
Mueller: “I don’t have any evidence but that doesn’t mean he’s innocent.”
Me: Ummmm, it kind of does actually.



No. He’s guilty and a total criminal. Impeach his ass. Trump supporters don’t respect the law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will he win?

So many of us are just sick of the MSM reporting. It is pretty sad that when it comes to reporting about Trump, a large number of Americans insist on seeing evidence of the claims made by the MSM because reporting on this president has become so, so ridiculously bad. The past two years, we have been fed lie after lie about Trump and his "nefarious" ties to Russia. When the Russian hoax is promoted daily on the MSM, any contact with anyone remotely Russian looks incriminating, when in actuality, there was nothing to many of these contacts.

Much of the public is tuning out these "reporters." The anchors, the pundits, the "journalists," the former administration talking heads - all of them promoted a false narrative and continue to push fake news. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Matthews.......so sick of the lies. One only has to see their sinking ratings numbers to know that Americans are tuning them out.

So, Trump will win again because Americans realize we are being lied to daily and are sending a huge middle finger to the MSM and the Democrats - one in the same.


Again, Mueller's most recent damning statements about the report say you are wrong.


No, they don't.

the special counsel clown show virtually guarantees trumps reelection.


+1.

I was truly surprised yesterday. Trump couldn't prove himself innocent so he's guilty -- what kind of lawyer or public official thinks that way outside of totalitarian regimes?

+1.
Mueller: “I don’t have any evidence but that doesn’t mean he’s innocent.”
Me: Ummmm, it kind of does actually.



No. He’s guilty and a total criminal. Impeach his ass. Trump supporters don’t respect the law.

Grandma, it’s almost time for days of our lives, turn of the computer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will he win?

So many of us are just sick of the MSM reporting. It is pretty sad that when it comes to reporting about Trump, a large number of Americans insist on seeing evidence of the claims made by the MSM because reporting on this president has become so, so ridiculously bad. The past two years, we have been fed lie after lie about Trump and his "nefarious" ties to Russia. When the Russian hoax is promoted daily on the MSM, any contact with anyone remotely Russian looks incriminating, when in actuality, there was nothing to many of these contacts.

Much of the public is tuning out these "reporters." The anchors, the pundits, the "journalists," the former administration talking heads - all of them promoted a false narrative and continue to push fake news. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Matthews.......so sick of the lies. One only has to see their sinking ratings numbers to know that Americans are tuning them out.

So, Trump will win again because Americans realize we are being lied to daily and are sending a huge middle finger to the MSM and the Democrats - one in the same.


Again, Mueller's most recent damning statements about the report say you are wrong.


No, they don't.

the special counsel clown show virtually guarantees trumps reelection.


+1.

I was truly surprised yesterday. Trump couldn't prove himself innocent so he's guilty -- what kind of lawyer or public official thinks that way outside of totalitarian regimes?

+1.
Mueller: “I don’t have any evidence but that doesn’t mean he’s innocent.”
Me: Ummmm, it kind of does actually.


+2
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It's amazing how Trump fanatics don't want to believe what Mueller really said. He clearly told Congress it was their job to take up the issue now.

He also CLEARLY said it was clear the Russians wanted Trump in office, and did everything they could to make sure that happened.



Tell us, based on a looooooooong report:

What crime was committed?

When?

Where?

By whom?

Mueller's report explicitly said there is no evidence of collussion or cooperation with the Russians by Trump.

So why are you making things up?

Incidentally, did you know that the Ukraine government actively helped the Hillary campaign?

And that, while all this foreign interference was going on, we did have a President in the White House? Who was in charge of the most extensive security apparatus the world has ever known?


Long reports are intimidating to you, huh?

The only people making things up are Trump and his supporters. The crime, dear idiot friend, is obstruction of justice.
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