Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?

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Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

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What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.

They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.

You're shifting the goalposts.

The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.

Shifting goal post???

Same person???

Come, on lots of people post here.

Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.

Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.

Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....

No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.

Even better make the seats all local to the school to reduce transportation costs and overcrowding. It's a win win!

It already has strong cohort and according to MCPS if you have strong cohort, you don't need magnet.

Now if you are talking about giving a tag name like Magnet without any magnet curriculum or staffing, then MCPS should do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The funny and sad part about this thread is it's one bitter person posting their insane and baseless rant over and over and people try to reason with them.

Which is why I said 140 posts ago that we should just ignore this topic and let the ranter rant and then go away. Unfortunately, we are still feeding the troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

TPMS is the only magnet that has a set aside.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

TPMS is the only magnet that has a set aside.

No it isn't. RM has 25 (plus 100 out-of-area), Clemente and MLK have 25 (plus 50 out-of-area), Global has 25 (plus 50 out-of-area).
-parent with kids in those programs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

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What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Magnet middle schools are the only schools that do not offer the accelerated and enriched courses that were started this year. I think the 25 seats gives students from TPMS who are not magnet students an opportunity similar to what other middle schools offer.

Takoma Park may host the magnet, but they are still a school with local students, not just a magnet school.

Yet, again, the assumption that TP students are not qualified for the magnet. This is so ignorant. Why would anyone accept the premise that the smartest kids come from the most ignorant parents?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.

They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.

You're shifting the goalposts.

The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.

Shifting goal post???

Same person???

Come, on lots of people post here.

Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.

Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.

Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....

No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.

OK, so you REALLY DON'T get it. They have 100 county wide seats, not 125. 100. ONLY 100. The only reason that 25 are added is the addition of local resources. it's not all "MCPS." Resources are appropriated to schools by enrollment. That is why schools lose or gain teachers. There is no avenue to open up additional seats for OOB. If you want to get rid of in-boundary kids, the seats will be at 100, and the TP kids will take seats from your kids. Local school capacity is not a county-wide issue. I think all magnets should have local seats because they allow more spaces for out of boundary and allow more kids to benefit from the magnet without costing anything extra. TP, RC and RM do it. Eastern and Blair should as well. If you want to advocate, advocate for a magnet at your school! Or for more spots in general! Taking the local spots for the umpteenth million time does NOT add spots for OOB kids. It takes them AWAY. Duh.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.

They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.

You're shifting the goalposts.

The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.

Shifting goal post???

Same person???

Come, on lots of people post here.

Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.

Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.

Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....

No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.

OK, so you REALLY DON'T get it. They have 100 county wide seats, not 125. 100. ONLY 100. The only reason that 25 are added is the addition of local resources. it's not all "MCPS." Resources are appropriated to schools by enrollment. That is why schools lose or gain teachers. There is no avenue to open up additional seats for OOB. If you want to get rid of in-boundary kids, the seats will be at 100, and the TP kids will take seats from your kids. Local school capacity is not a county-wide issue. I think all magnets should have local seats because they allow more spaces for out of boundary and allow more kids to benefit from the magnet without costing anything extra. TP, RC and RM do it. Eastern and Blair should as well. If you want to advocate, advocate for a magnet at your school! Or for more spots in general! Taking the local spots for the umpteenth million time does NOT add spots for OOB kids. It takes them AWAY. Duh.

That is all no doubt accurate in how MCPS functions. I'm not sure any of that is relevant to whether MCPS wants, in the current environment, to defend as legal having different cut offs for TPMS in bound kids vs. the rest. Especially awkward if as some here suggest, those who get the 25 slots don't come close to matching the diversity in the TPMS in bound area. Just because it was done this way long ago....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it true that 25 seats are reserved for inbound students? Can anyone provide an official cite for this info?

Yes, and it's one of several reasons why many parents who value education buy into the Blair/TPMS pyramid.

Purchasing a lotto ticket is not a great investment strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it true that 25 seats are reserved for inbound students? Can anyone provide an official cite for this info?

Yes, and it's one of several reasons why many parents who value education buy into the Blair/TPMS pyramid.

Purchasing a lotto ticket is not a great investment strategy.

Especially if requires living around the slummy liquor store where you bought it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.

They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.

You're shifting the goalposts.

The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.

Shifting goal post???

Same person???

Come, on lots of people post here.

Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.

Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.

Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....

No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.

OK, so you REALLY DON'T get it. They have 100 county wide seats, not 125. 100. ONLY 100. The only reason that 25 are added is the addition of local resources. it's not all "MCPS." Resources are appropriated to schools by enrollment. That is why schools lose or gain teachers. There is no avenue to open up additional seats for OOB. If you want to get rid of in-boundary kids, the seats will be at 100, and the TP kids will take seats from your kids. Local school capacity is not a county-wide issue. I think all magnets should have local seats because they allow more spaces for out of boundary and allow more kids to benefit from the magnet without costing anything extra. TP, RC and RM do it. Eastern and Blair should as well. If you want to advocate, advocate for a magnet at your school! Or for more spots in general! Taking the local spots for the umpteenth million time does NOT add spots for OOB kids. It takes them AWAY. Duh.

That is all no doubt accurate in how MCPS functions. I'm not sure any of that is relevant to whether MCPS wants, in the current environment, to defend as legal having different cut offs for TPMS in bound kids vs. the rest. Especially awkward if as some here suggest, those who get the 25 slots don't come close to matching the diversity in the TPMS in bound area. Just because it was done this way long ago....

1. I don't think they have specific "cutoffs." There are different scores on the test and other factors
2. Read through this immense thread and see that the TP in boundary kids are competitive (they are not the bottom or "above avg.")
3. I just looked through the directory and, while I would say the majority in boundary are white, I also see Asian (far east and Indian), Hispanic, African and some I don't know. Stop saying in boundary are all white. This is nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.

They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.

You're shifting the goalposts.

The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.

Shifting goal post???

Same person???

Come, on lots of people post here.

Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.

Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.

Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....

No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.

OK, so you REALLY DON'T get it. They have 100 county wide seats, not 125. 100. ONLY 100. The only reason that 25 are added is the addition of local resources. it's not all "MCPS." Resources are appropriated to schools by enrollment. That is why schools lose or gain teachers. There is no avenue to open up additional seats for OOB. If you want to get rid of in-boundary kids, the seats will be at 100, and the TP kids will take seats from your kids. Local school capacity is not a county-wide issue. I think all magnets should have local seats because they allow more spaces for out of boundary and allow more kids to benefit from the magnet without costing anything extra. TP, RC and RM do it. Eastern and Blair should as well. If you want to advocate, advocate for a magnet at your school! Or for more spots in general! Taking the local spots for the umpteenth million time does NOT add spots for OOB kids. It takes them AWAY. Duh.

That is all no doubt accurate in how MCPS functions. I'm not sure any of that is relevant to whether MCPS wants, in the current environment, to defend as legal having different cut offs for TPMS in bound kids vs. the rest. Especially awkward if as some here suggest, those who get the 25 slots don't come close to matching the diversity in the TPMS in bound area. Just because it was done this way long ago....

1. I don't think they have specific "cutoffs." There are different scores on the test and other factors
2. Read through this immense thread and see that the TP in boundary kids are competitive (they are not the bottom or "above avg.")
3. I just looked through the directory and, while I would say the majority in boundary are white, I also see Asian (far east and Indian), Hispanic, African and some I don't know. Stop saying in boundary are all white. This is nonsense.

^^^ Also, I hope numbers of non white kids will continue to grow as changes in CES selection mature and kids in our less affluent immigrant communities get more educational enrichment and opportunities.

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FYI TPMS has already started their renovations to expand the school so the overcrowding issue of adding 75 additional out of boundary magnet slots (instead of keeping the 75 in boundary slots) is not real.

It was never real. The in bound seats are a leftover vestige of white privilege. Time to end this.

It's common for Asian families to leave Potomac for TKPK these days because they value their children's education.

That's what all the smart people do these days.

We did and we couldn't be happier. Both kids went through the program. Perhaps, they would've gotten in anyway. They're all 99s but we aren't going to gamble with our kids future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

TPMS is the only magnet that has a set aside.

No it isn't. RM has 25 (plus 100 out-of-area), Clemente and MLK have 25 (plus 50 out-of-area), Global has 25 (plus 50 out-of-area).
-parent with kids in those programs

Not sure about the others, but they announced this year that they are no longer holding set-asides for Global.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.

They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.

You're shifting the goalposts.

The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.

Shifting goal post???

Same person???

Come, on lots of people post here.

Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.

Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.

Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....

No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.

OK, so you REALLY DON'T get it. They have 100 county wide seats, not 125. 100. ONLY 100. The only reason that 25 are added is the addition of local resources. it's not all "MCPS." Resources are appropriated to schools by enrollment. That is why schools lose or gain teachers. There is no avenue to open up additional seats for OOB. If you want to get rid of in-boundary kids, the seats will be at 100, and the TP kids will take seats from your kids. Local school capacity is not a county-wide issue. I think all magnets should have local seats because they allow more spaces for out of boundary and allow more kids to benefit from the magnet without costing anything extra. TP, RC and RM do it. Eastern and Blair should as well. If you want to advocate, advocate for a magnet at your school! Or for more spots in general! Taking the local spots for the umpteenth million time does NOT add spots for OOB kids. It takes them AWAY. Duh.

You are describing how MCPS decide to do it long time ago.

TPMS quota seat has the same diversity as county or not , that's the question MCPS should be asking. Clearly, it's not and given what's going on right now, MCPS shouldn't be practicing that.

Your argument about 100 vs 125 seats due to capacity can be taken care by changing boundary and making up 25 extra seats in TPMS for magnet. Those extra seats can be taken by any one including kids from TPMS.

There is absolutely no basis to give backdoor entry in any magnet based on this capacity argument when county is trying o make it equitable for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.

+1

What's so unique about TP to give them quota?

Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.

Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.

Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.

They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.

You're shifting the goalposts.

The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.

Shifting goal post???

Same person???

Come, on lots of people post here.

Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.

Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.

Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....

No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.

OK, so you REALLY DON'T get it. They have 100 county wide seats, not 125. 100. ONLY 100. The only reason that 25 are added is the addition of local resources. it's not all "MCPS." Resources are appropriated to schools by enrollment. That is why schools lose or gain teachers. There is no avenue to open up additional seats for OOB. If you want to get rid of in-boundary kids, the seats will be at 100, and the TP kids will take seats from your kids. Local school capacity is not a county-wide issue. I think all magnets should have local seats because they allow more spaces for out of boundary and allow more kids to benefit from the magnet without costing anything extra. TP, RC and RM do it. Eastern and Blair should as well. If you want to advocate, advocate for a magnet at your school! Or for more spots in general! Taking the local spots for the umpteenth million time does NOT add spots for OOB kids. It takes them AWAY. Duh.

I am advocating for the bold, but without the backdoor entry for 25 students from host schools. Every school and every kid should be treated fairly. There should be no special accommodations for host school.