the Key/ASFS building switch...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

Has there ever been a case of a neighborhood school located entirely outside of its boundary? No. Nobody is trying to take someone else's school. Key as an option school just doesn't make sense based on the criteria that staff was evaluating. Is ASFS the best location for the Immersion program? Probably not, but let's not pretend Key is either. I think if Key families could come to the table with a more favorable location in mind for a move in 2020 or 2021, they might be heard. But demanding to stay in their current location isn't going to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

THIS! A dishonest a school system and elected officials is bad news for everyone. PTAs should stop and take note and spend cautiously on their current schools because at any given moment the Superintendent can just whisk them away (and don't kid yourself if you really think they are moving, recreating any of either of these schools - APS does not have the money to do so).

ALL HAIL EMPEROR MURPHY!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

What are you talking about? This all came about b/c Cherrydale wanted ASFS as a neighborhood school.

SB made it a neighborhood school but outside it’s own boundaries, and their decision to rectify boudnaries with school was to place it within its boundaries.

Not much different then when the high schools were built new, everyone moved into new building. Hence a swap.

Perhaps you are saying LV have been campaigning to take the Key building? Maybe. But I have been involved in the school for almost a decade and never heard a peep about moving to Key until the SB stripped the team concept and science program status and designated it a neighborhood school outside it’s bounds. All those donors pouring money into science lab and nature features? They had no designs on key.

This is completely different than new schools coming on line and children being moved around to attend a new school. Opening a new school offers a reasonable ROI for a community and solves capacity problems. This solves no capacity problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

What are you talking about? This all came about b/c Cherrydale wanted ASFS as a neighborhood school.

SB made it a neighborhood school but outside it’s own boundaries, and their decision to rectify boudnaries with school was to place it within its boundaries.

Not much different then when the high schools were built new, everyone moved into new building. Hence a swap.

Perhaps you are saying LV have been campaigning to take the Key building? Maybe. But I have been involved in the school for almost a decade and never heard a peep about moving to Key until the SB stripped the team concept and science program status and designated it a neighborhood school outside it’s bounds. All those donors pouring money into science lab and nature features? They had no designs on key.

This is completely different than new schools coming on line and children being moved around to attend a new school. Opening a new school offers a reasonable ROI for a community and solves capacity problems. This solves no capacity problems.

It does when immersion lands at Carlin Springs.

[Anonymous]

It does when immersion lands at Carlin Springs.

how so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

THIS! A dishonest a school system and elected officials is bad news for everyone. PTAs should stop and take note and spend cautiously on their current schools because at any given moment the Superintendent can just whisk them away (and don't kid yourself if you really think they are moving, recreating any of either of these schools - APS does not have the money to do so).

ALL HAIL EMPEROR MURPHY!!!

Here here! The Emperor has spoken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

What are you talking about? This all came about b/c Cherrydale wanted ASFS as a neighborhood school.

SB made it a neighborhood school but outside it’s own boundaries, and their decision to rectify boudnaries with school was to place it within its boundaries.

Not much different then when the high schools were built new, everyone moved into new building. Hence a swap.

Perhaps you are saying LV have been campaigning to take the Key building? Maybe. But I have been involved in the school for almost a decade and never heard a peep about moving to Key until the SB stripped the team concept and science program status and designated it a neighborhood school outside it’s bounds. All those donors pouring money into science lab and nature features? They had no designs on key.

This is completely different than new schools coming on line and children being moved around to attend a new school. Opening a new school offers a reasonable ROI for a community and solves capacity problems. This solves no capacity problems.

It was never meant to solve a capacity problem. It was meant to solve a transportation problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

THIS! A dishonest a school system and elected officials is bad news for everyone. PTAs should stop and take note and spend cautiously on their current schools because at any given moment the Superintendent can just whisk them away (and don't kid yourself if you really think they are moving, recreating any of either of these schools - APS does not have the money to do so).

ALL HAIL EMPEROR MURPHY!!!

The Superintendent is acting on behalf of the SB. This just allows them to keep their hands clean. Come on now. He works for them, not the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It does when immersion lands at Carlin Springs.

how so?

Creates 2 neighborhood schools in the east where there is a seat shortage and breaks up the embarrassingly high poverty school at CS. Kids from CS can be pushed up to Ashlawn because of new seats at Reed and Ashlawn zone sending some to new Science Focus. Basically it does what they said they needed to do when they started the location conversation a year ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools don’t just swap. This is conceptually and intellectually dishonest. Certain families want to be assigned to a different facility than the one they chose to enroll in. Seriously, in the history of boundary discussions, have you ever seen the mythical unicorn now being referred to as a swap? I don’t have skin in the game, but pretending this is normal and something one just does, is ridiculous.

THIS! A dishonest a school system and elected officials is bad news for everyone. PTAs should stop and take note and spend cautiously on their current schools because at any given moment the Superintendent can just whisk them away (and don't kid yourself if you really think they are moving, recreating any of either of these schools - APS does not have the money to do so).

ALL HAIL EMPEROR MURPHY!!!

Put down the sangria, Becky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It does when immersion lands at Carlin Springs.

how so?

Creates 2 neighborhood schools in the east where there is a seat shortage and breaks up the embarrassingly high poverty school at CS. Kids from CS can be pushed up to Ashlawn because of new seats at Reed and Ashlawn zone sending some to new Science Focus. Basically it does what they said they needed to do when they started the location conversation a year ago.

Yep. I’m shocked Ashlawn families haven’t gotten involved. If you are going To Ashlawn ( even after Moving boundaries ) your school is going to look different In a Couple years..
I’d be pulling up the farm rates on the pu’s likely to be scooped up...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It does when immersion lands at Carlin Springs.

how so?

Creates 2 neighborhood schools in the east where there is a seat shortage and breaks up the embarrassingly high poverty school at CS. Kids from CS can be pushed up to Ashlawn because of new seats at Reed and Ashlawn zone sending some to new Science Focus. Basically it does what they said they needed to do when they started the location conversation a year ago.

This is the best scenario.

Ashlawn is a great school and can absorb more FARMS gracefully. It will look more like Long Branch which isn’t a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It does when immersion lands at Carlin Springs.

how so?

Creates 2 neighborhood schools in the east where there is a seat shortage and breaks up the embarrassingly high poverty school at CS. Kids from CS can be pushed up to Ashlawn because of new seats at Reed and Ashlawn zone sending some to new Science Focus. Basically it does what they said they needed to do when they started the location conversation a year ago.

Yep. I’m shocked Ashlawn families haven’t gotten involved. If you are going To Ashlawn ( even after Moving boundaries ) your school is going to look different In a Couple years..
I’d be pulling up the farm rates on the pu’s likely to be scooped up...

It would be perfectly fine. Unless you’re a racist tw#t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It does when immersion lands at Carlin Springs.

how so?

Creates 2 neighborhood schools in the east where there is a seat shortage and breaks up the embarrassingly high poverty school at CS. Kids from CS can be pushed up to Ashlawn because of new seats at Reed and Ashlawn zone sending some to new Science Focus. Basically it does what they said they needed to do when they started the location conversation a year ago.

Yep. I’m shocked Ashlawn families haven’t gotten involved. If you are going To Ashlawn ( even after Moving boundaries ) your school is going to look different In a Couple years..
I’d be pulling up the farm rates on the pu’s likely to be scooped up...

Just when I think it can't get any uglier or crazier, you are there to surprise me. This is why the Superintendent has to get involved, because we are ugly and terrible and the processes that were in place are completely broken.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Anonymous]

Because the plural of anecdote is clearly data: my kid is a kindergartner at Key, we walk, and at least half of the other parents at walker pickup are non-white. Probably more. To be fair, some may park nearby and pick up at the walker door instead of the car pickup line.