Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad that the evidence sat so long, and the victim's family might not get a fair trial because of it. i.e.: evidence that could have been there earlier, is no longer there. Huge injustice for Hannah.

How do you know this to be true? Have you spoken with the prosecutor or the ME?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad that the evidence sat so long, and the victim's family might not get a fair trial because of it. i.e.: evidence that could have been there earlier, is no longer there. Huge injustice for Hannah.

How do you know this to be true? Have you spoken with the prosecutor or the ME?

Are you ridiculous to not know this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the bottom of this article in the comments section on poster claims that she knew Jesse Matthew and his father was alcoholic who beat him. Who knows but I imagine he was probably abused in some way to turn into such a monster. Dad should join his son in jail.

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/neighbors-of-jesse-matthews-mother-speak-out-about-multiple-investigations/29263116?item=1

It's probably violence passed down through the generations. It's what they know and experience.

Be careful that you are not slandering the dad by repeating unproven gossip.

The son will do plenty of shaming just by being himself. No need to worry about slandering dear ol dad.

If this is true, the tragedy is exponential. So very sad. I'm sure will be used by defense attorney, again, if true.

So if his dad was an alcoholic and beat him, it excuses him raping and murdering people?

Whoever defends this guy is slime. Is his original attorney still with him, anyone know?

Shut your ignorant mouth. The right to representation belongs to everyone, not just innocent people. That is one of the bedrock principles of this country and what sets the US apart from a lot of other places. It's easy to represent those to have virtue; it's much harder to do what his attorney will have to do. And while I could not be a criminal defense attorney, I'm glad there people who are. Because, everyone gets the chance to put the state to prove their case. And that is absolutely as it should be. You want to be a proud American? You should be proud of this part of it.

I actually agree with you. But, the right to free speech is also one of the bedrock principle of this country. So, your first sentence was a little harsh.
(not the pp)

Free speech does not mean free from consequence. The original PP called the potential criminal defense attorney slime. S/he should be called out on his/her ignorance. So, no, I don't think that was a little harsh, actually.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad that the evidence sat so long, and the victim's family might not get a fair trial because of it. i.e.: evidence that could have been there earlier, is no longer there. Huge injustice for Hannah.

How do you know this to be true? Have you spoken with the prosecutor or the ME?

Are you ridiculous to not know this?

Then, share with us what evidence is no longer there.

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Anonymous wrote:Taking race out of the equation completely - I think we teach our kids so much to be inclusive and trusting and not skeptical based on appearances, all laudable things, but not always the most cautious approach. i.e., when I was in college I avoided all older townies like the plague. (They were all white). They were rednecky and sketchy. Now that would be considered snobby, classist and elitist. Sometimes you need to play the percentages and leave the PC stuff for someone else.

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Yes, that's pretty much the way things were when I was in college. We partied, associated with other college students.

I don't know that Hannah was just being "nice". I think JM just happened to offer her a ride or said something to her that made her relax.

She was young, naive and quite drunk. He is a serial killer and rapist. He probably couldn't believe his good luck. A horrible bit of bad luck for her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad that the evidence sat so long, and the victim's family might not get a fair trial because of it. i.e.: evidence that could have been there earlier, is no longer there. Huge injustice for Hannah.

How do you know this to be true? Have you spoken with the prosecutor or the ME?

Are you ridiculous to not know this?

Then, share with us what evidence is no longer there.

Case in point. You are, in fact, ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taking race out of the equation completely - I think we teach our kids so much to be inclusive and trusting and not skeptical based on appearances, all laudable things, but not always the most cautious approach. i.e., when I was in college I avoided all older townies like the plague. (They were all white). They were rednecky and sketchy. Now that would be considered snobby, classist and elitist. Sometimes you need to play the percentages and leave the PC stuff for someone else.

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Yes, that's pretty much the way things were when I was in college. We partied, associated with other college students.

I don't know that Hannah was just being "nice". I think JM just happened to offer her a ride or said something to her that made her relax.

She was young, naive and quite drunk. He is a serial killer and rapist. He probably couldn't believe his good luck. A horrible bit of bad luck for her.

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God awful timing, unfortunately. So sad for the family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad that the evidence sat so long, and the victim's family might not get a fair trial because of it. i.e.: evidence that could have been there earlier, is no longer there. Huge injustice for Hannah.

How do you know this to be true? Have you spoken with the prosecutor or the ME?

Are you ridiculous to not know this?

Then, share with us what evidence is no longer there.

Case in point. You are, in fact, ridiculous.

And, case in point, you have no proof.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad that the evidence sat so long, and the victim's family might not get a fair trial because of it. i.e.: evidence that could have been there earlier, is no longer there. Huge injustice for Hannah.

How do you know this to be true? Have you spoken with the prosecutor or the ME?

Are you ridiculous to not know this?

Then, share with us what evidence is no longer there.

Case in point. You are, in fact, ridiculous.

And, case in point, you have no proof.

Are you a complete idiot? A rhetorical question, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking race out of the equation completely - I think we teach our kids so much to be inclusive and trusting and not skeptical based on appearances, all laudable things, but not always the most cautious approach. i.e., when I was in college I avoided all older townies like the plague. (They were all white). They were rednecky and sketchy. Now that would be considered snobby, classist and elitist. Sometimes you need to play the percentages and leave the PC stuff for someone else.

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Yes, that's pretty much the way things were when I was in college. We partied, associated with other college students.

Had exact same thought as you both. I would have been totally skeeved out by sketchy older black guy with dreads putting his arm around me.

[Anonymous]

I am so very sad for this family. I also do not understand why her friends left her alone. We partied quite a bit in college, but never left each other alone in strange places. No matter what.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking race out of the equation completely - I think we teach our kids so much to be inclusive and trusting and not skeptical based on appearances, all laudable things, but not always the most cautious approach. i.e., when I was in college I avoided all older townies like the plague. (They were all white). They were rednecky and sketchy. Now that would be considered snobby, classist and elitist. Sometimes you need to play the percentages and leave the PC stuff for someone else.

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Yes, that's pretty much the way things were when I was in college. We partied, associated with other college students.

Had exact same thought as you both. I would have been totally skeeved out by sketchy older black guy with dreads putting his arm around me.

I hear you! I would have been totally freaked out by creepy older white guy with long stringy blond hair putting his arm around me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the bottom of this article in the comments section on poster claims that she knew Jesse Matthew and his father was alcoholic who beat him. Who knows but I imagine he was probably abused in some way to turn into such a monster. Dad should join his son in jail.

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/neighbors-of-jesse-matthews-mother-speak-out-about-multiple-investigations/29263116?item=1

It's probably violence passed down through the generations. It's what they know and experience.

Be careful that you are not slandering the dad by repeating unproven gossip.

The son will do plenty of shaming just by being himself. No need to worry about slandering dear ol dad.

If this is true, the tragedy is exponential. So very sad. I'm sure will be used by defense attorney, again, if true.

So if his dad was an alcoholic and beat him, it excuses him raping and murdering people?

Whoever defends this guy is slime. Is his original attorney still with him, anyone know?

Shut your ignorant mouth. The right to representation belongs to everyone, not just innocent people. That is one of the bedrock principles of this country and what sets the US apart from a lot of other places. It's easy to represent those to have virtue; it's much harder to do what his attorney will have to do. And while I could not be a criminal defense attorney, I'm glad there people who are. Because, everyone gets the chance to put the state to prove their case. And that is absolutely as it should be. You want to be a proud American? You should be proud of this part of it.

I actually agree with you. But, the right to free speech is also one of the bedrock principle of this country. So, your first sentence was a little harsh.
(not the pp)

Free speech does not mean free from consequence. The original PP called the potential criminal defense attorney slime. S/he should be called out on his/her ignorance. So, no, I don't think that was a little harsh, actually.

Stand by my original statement. That attorney will attempt to get a lesser sentence for this monster. That's despicable, IMO. Call me what you wish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the bottom of this article in the comments section on poster claims that she knew Jesse Matthew and his father was alcoholic who beat him. Who knows but I imagine he was probably abused in some way to turn into such a monster. Dad should join his son in jail.

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/neighbors-of-jesse-matthews-mother-speak-out-about-multiple-investigations/29263116?item=1

It's probably violence passed down through the generations. It's what they know and experience.

Be careful that you are not slandering the dad by repeating unproven gossip.

The son will do plenty of shaming just by being himself. No need to worry about slandering dear ol dad.

If this is true, the tragedy is exponential. So very sad. I'm sure will be used by defense attorney, again, if true.

So if his dad was an alcoholic and beat him, it excuses him raping and murdering people?

Whoever defends this guy is slime. Is his original attorney still with him, anyone know?

Shut your ignorant mouth. The right to representation belongs to everyone, not just innocent people. That is one of the bedrock principles of this country and what sets the US apart from a lot of other places. It's easy to represent those to have virtue; it's much harder to do what his attorney will have to do. And while I could not be a criminal defense attorney, I'm glad there people who are. Because, everyone gets the chance to put the state to prove their case. And that is absolutely as it should be. You want to be a proud American? You should be proud of this part of it.

I actually agree with you. But, the right to free speech is also one of the bedrock principle of this country. So, your first sentence was a little harsh.
(not the pp)

Free speech does not mean free from consequence. The original PP called the potential criminal defense attorney slime. S/he should be called out on his/her ignorance. So, no, I don't think that was a little harsh, actually.

Stand by my original statement. That attorney will attempt to get a lesser sentence for this monster. That's despicable, IMO. Call me what you wish.

That's the attorney's job. The job of the jury is to see past the posturing of the defense and consider the nature of the crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the bottom of this article in the comments section on poster claims that she knew Jesse Matthew and his father was alcoholic who beat him. Who knows but I imagine he was probably abused in some way to turn into such a monster. Dad should join his son in jail.

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/neighbors-of-jesse-matthews-mother-speak-out-about-multiple-investigations/29263116?item=1

It's probably violence passed down through the generations. It's what they know and experience.

Be careful that you are not slandering the dad by repeating unproven gossip.

The son will do plenty of shaming just by being himself. No need to worry about slandering dear ol dad.

If this is true, the tragedy is exponential. So very sad. I'm sure will be used by defense attorney, again, if true.

So if his dad was an alcoholic and beat him, it excuses him raping and murdering people?

Whoever defends this guy is slime. Is his original attorney still with him, anyone know?

Shut your ignorant mouth. The right to representation belongs to everyone, not just innocent people. That is one of the bedrock principles of this country and what sets the US apart from a lot of other places. It's easy to represent those to have virtue; it's much harder to do what his attorney will have to do. And while I could not be a criminal defense attorney, I'm glad there people who are. Because, everyone gets the chance to put the state to prove their case. And that is absolutely as it should be. You want to be a proud American? You should be proud of this part of it.

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