To WP: What Can Black People Do to Improve Race Relations in this Country?

[Anonymous]

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By your rationalization, the white man has slaughtered his own people since the beginning of time (the Holocaust comes to mind).

You are absolutely correct. Man's inhumanity to man is boundless, but it is not limited to one race, or ethnicity, or religion, or culture. It isn't just a U.S. thing or a white thing. It is a human thing.

Has anyone suggested otherwise?

BTW, you gotta admit the white man has truly effed over many.

Because they are Satan.

Wellllllllll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Encourage your kids to make friends with people of other races. For example, African American kids at elite schools often sit together and automatically form a clique together. I understand this is natural, being a traditionally discriminated against minority, and that their primary purpose in going to school is to get an education, not to improve race relations. But encourage them to be friendly to white kids who sit at their table, or even invite white kids to sit with them.

So they can get stabbed in the back and or betrayed like we have historically been? No, y'all are getting the side eye for eternity.
I was this kid you mentioned... Guess where all white school buddies are?......no seriously guess because I have no fucking clue.
Though I run into them on occasion one was even a "civil rights" do gooder...she has like 1 AA "friend" but whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I know about rural poor uneducated whites is scary. Poor health, drug addiction, bad habits, divorce, unwed moms, sagging pants (yes), pajama pants, lips pieced, eyebrows pierced, tongues pierced, incest, 37 year old grandma, obeeeese, periodontal disease, blue hair, purple hair, tats, you name it. And there are a lot of them.
Most whites (and blacks) who are tuned into DCUM would not want to have a thing to do with them, but they are mostly out of sight because they live behind god's back.

Very true. The whites, as majority, have the luxury of dismissing these people as not representative of their culture. Watch Adichie's powerful and eloquent speech on "the Danger of a Single Story" http://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story.html

[Anonymous]

Blacks often turn their backs on poor blacks. fact of life . . .

It's human nature to gravitate toward others with whom you have something in common.

I can remember my daughter's friend in high school - years ago - who came from El Salvador - telling us how his father would point out Hispanic boys who were dressed as slobs and who probably had gang connections. The father said that he didn't break his back working like a dog in this country to see his son turn out like one of them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I know about rural poor uneducated whites is scary. Poor health, drug addiction, bad habits, divorce, unwed moms, sagging pants (yes), pajama pants, lips pieced, eyebrows pierced, tongues pierced, incest, 37 year old grandma, obeeeese, periodontal disease, blue hair, purple hair, tats, you name it. And there are a lot of them.
Most whites (and blacks) who are tuned into DCUM would not want to have a thing to do with them, but they are mostly out of sight because they live behind god's back.

Very true. The whites, as majority, have the luxury of dismissing these people as not representative of their culture. Watch Adichie's powerful and eloquent speech on "the Danger of a Single Story" http://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Black man here,
If I had ever mentioned slavery as an excuse for my behavior or outcomes, my dad would've beat the shit out of me (like a slave). That excuse is tired and when I hear it, I immediately write that person off because I know that whatever happens in their life, they will do absolutely nothing to make it better. These are not the type of people that I like to work, play, or associate with.

Question for you: when have you ever heard it used as an excuse? In what context?

And your quip about being beaten like a slave was not funny. In fact, it was in extremely poor taste.

So a black male is claiming he's not falling into victim role, and you're chastising him for trying to move forward?

TBH, I'd rather have him as my father than you as a parent. Kids don't need victims as role models; they need strong, secure individuals to help them lead the way. And it's not always about having the means either. It's about having the mindset to grow beyond these tired old beliefs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:POTUS is black and white, not just black.

The rationale of racists who just can't believe a black man is POTUS. He identifies as black and will go down in the history books as the first black president. Get over it.

He probably would not have become POTUS if not for his unique family and upbringing, including the fact that he is white.

You have no way of knowing that and to presume otherwise is idiocy. BUT, it's good to know that white people now embrace biracial folks as white. Look how far we've come!

Puhleese. You know he benefited from being biracial. And he is the type of black whites love because he is the child of a black African, not the child of a black African American.

Different poster here. Yes, I think that during the election it was Michelle who seemed threatening to some voters because she's homegrown and that a certain kind of voter was more comfortable with him because his father was not homegrown.

No-she was/is regarded as a regular American from a middle class fine Chicago area family. Smart person and smart siblings from a nice family. He is homegrown [except for living in Singapore]. At age 10 he went to live with his grandparents in Hawaii which last time I checked was a state not another country.

[Anonymous]

TBH, I'd rather have him as my father than you as a parent. Kids don't need victims as role models; they need strong, secure individuals to help them lead the way. And it's not always about having the means either. It's about having the mindset to grow beyond these tired old beliefs.

+1

[Anonymous]

To those who think that black people are too sensitive, how do you feel when someone drops something like this:
I actually do not like the way redheads look, at all. I see may white parents go on about cute redheaded kids. Some are faking it because I know a few whites who also hate red hair too. What if I said to a parent of a redhead "oh, it does not look so bad, maybe as he gets older it will change"? Would that be hurtful?

I have had countless white people make silly comments about dark skin or kinky hair that sound just like that.

Another example, I hate short legs. What if I told my short legged friends that there are a whole host of things that they could do to make their legs look longer. To me that would be a put down.
Come on people, we all have an Achilles heel. Try not to aim for that, we are not overly sensitive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One thing - I wish blacks would SERIOUSLY start addressing the issue of black-on-black violence. I live in what many would consider to be the 'hood - and I feel as though every week I pass a church where there is a funeral for a youth. When I check news reports, these deaths are barely mentioned. It's disgusting. But, the only solution will come from within the black community.

Ok why don't you call white people killing white people white
White on white crime??
It is just crime !!!!!!!
Communities most affected by it need to adress it, but please don't act as of it some special kind of crime when both the victim and perpetrator are black.

I am not that PP but I am sure it is referred to as black on black violence because young black men are being killed by young black men, at an alarming and heartbreaking level.

I would like to see the same outrage about this tragedy from the black community, particularly its leaders, as was shown about Trevon. For every Trevon, there are hundreds of other young men who are victims of black on black violence in our inner cities.

It is equally tragic, if not more tragic, just based on the sheer numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing - I wish blacks would SERIOUSLY start addressing the issue of black-on-black violence. I live in what many would consider to be the 'hood - and I feel as though every week I pass a church where there is a funeral for a youth. When I check news reports, these deaths are barely mentioned. It's disgusting. But, the only solution will come from within the black community.

Ok why don't you call white people killing white people white
White on white crime??
It is just crime !!!!!!!
Communities most affected by it need to adress it, but please don't act as of it some special kind of crime when both the victim and perpetrator are black.

I am not that PP but I am sure it is referred to as black on black violence because young black men are being killed by young black men, at an alarming and heartbreaking level.

I would like to see the same outrage about this tragedy from the black community, particularly its leaders, as was shown about Trevon. For every Trevon, there are hundreds of other young men who are victims of black on black violence in our inner cities.

It is equally tragic, if not more tragic, just based on the sheer numbers.

but when black men kill other black men it is not because they are black and walking through a white neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing - I wish blacks would SERIOUSLY start addressing the issue of black-on-black violence. I live in what many would consider to be the 'hood - and I feel as though every week I pass a church where there is a funeral for a youth. When I check news reports, these deaths are barely mentioned. It's disgusting. But, the only solution will come from within the black community.

Ok why don't you call white people killing white people white
White on white crime??
It is just crime !!!!!!!
Communities most affected by it need to adress it, but please don't act as of it some special kind of crime when both the victim and perpetrator are black.

I am not that PP but I am sure it is referred to as black on black violence because young black men are being killed by young black men, at an alarming and heartbreaking level.

I would like to see the same outrage about this tragedy from the black community, particularly its leaders, as was shown about Trevon. For every Trevon, there are hundreds of other young men who are victims of black on black violence in our inner cities.

It is equally tragic, if not more tragic, just based on the sheer numbers.

You are just flat out wrong .
Your explanation is dumb.
Most white people are killed by white people and it is not called white on white crime.
P.S. : The young man's name was TRAYVON.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To those who think that black people are too sensitive, how do you feel when someone drops something like this:
I actually do not like the way redheads look, at all. I see may white parents go on about cute redheaded kids. Some are faking it because I know a few whites who also hate red hair too. What if I said to a parent of a redhead "oh, it does not look so bad, maybe as he gets older it will change"? Would that be hurtful?

I have had countless white people make silly comments about dark skin or kinky hair that sound just like that.

Another example, I hate short legs. What if I told my short legged friends that there are a whole host of things that they could do to make their legs look longer. To me that would be a put down.
Come on people, we all have an Achilles heel. Try not to aim for that, we are not overly sensitive.

We talk about good skin and bad skin all the time. We also talk about good hair and bad hair.

For example, I am Irish and my H is italian. My oldest got the bad skin, mine, it burns and breaks out, etc. my youngest got the Italian skin, is olive, tans nice and never breaks out. When I was discussing this my black girlfriend was surprised we would just publiclly say one kid had bad skin. It's not a big deal.

Aos the oldest got the Italian hair, thick, and perfect all the time. The young one was bald until he was 3 and his hair is wispy and tragic, he will be bald when older.

It's a fact, I still think they are both beautiful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who think that black people are too sensitive, how do you feel when someone drops something like this:
I actually do not like the way redheads look, at all. I see may white parents go on about cute redheaded kids. Some are faking it because I know a few whites who also hate red hair too. What if I said to a parent of a redhead "oh, it does not look so bad, maybe as he gets older it will change"? Would that be hurtful?

I have had countless white people make silly comments about dark skin or kinky hair that sound just like that.

Another example, I hate short legs. What if I told my short legged friends that there are a whole host of things that they could do to make their legs look longer. To me that would be a put down.
Come on people, we all have an Achilles heel. Try not to aim for that, we are not overly sensitive.

We talk about good skin and bad skin all the time. We also talk about good hair and bad hair.

For example, I am Irish and my H is italian. My oldest got the bad skin, mine, it burns and breaks out, etc. my youngest got the Italian skin, is olive, tans nice and never breaks out. When I was discussing this my black girlfriend was surprised we would just publiclly say one kid had bad skin. It's not a big deal.

Aos the oldest got the Italian hair, thick, and perfect all the time. The young one was bald until he was 3 and his hair is wispy and tragic, he will be bald when older.

It's a fact, I still think they are both beautiful.

uh

Have you NEVER seen red-headed, fair-skinned Italians? Southern Italian roots here with 5 cousins who are all red heads who burn
I, too, am as white as they come - with green eyes and light, straight hair.

nice stereotyping here . . .

[Anonymous]

You completely missed the point. The point is at we talk about skin and hair. Some is good some is bad. No big deal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who think that black people are too sensitive, how do you feel when someone drops something like this:
I actually do not like the way redheads look, at all. I see may white parents go on about cute redheaded kids. Some are faking it because I know a few whites who also hate red hair too. What if I said to a parent of a redhead "oh, it does not look so bad, maybe as he gets older it will change"? Would that be hurtful?

I have had countless white people make silly comments about dark skin or kinky hair that sound just like that.

Another example, I hate short legs. What if I told my short legged friends that there are a whole host of things that they could do to make their legs look longer. To me that would be a put down.
Come on people, we all have an Achilles heel. Try not to aim for that, we are not overly sensitive.

We talk about good skin and bad skin all the time. We also talk about good hair and bad hair.

For example, I am Irish and my H is italian. My oldest got the bad skin, mine, it burns and breaks out, etc. my youngest got the Italian skin, is olive, tans nice and never breaks out. When I was discussing this my black girlfriend was surprised we would just publiclly say one kid had bad skin. It's not a big deal.

Aos the oldest got the Italian hair, thick, and perfect all the time. The young one was bald until he was 3 and his hair is wispy and tragic, he will be bald when older.

It's a fact, I still think they are both beautiful.

uh

Have you NEVER seen red-headed, fair-skinned Italians? Southern Italian roots here with 5 cousins who are all red heads who burn
I, too, am as white as they come - with green eyes and light, straight hair.

nice stereotyping here . . .

[Anonymous]

No - The point is that I'm sick and tired of the same old stereotypes. What applies to blacks can be applied to Italians but on a less damaging scale. We all look different. And while I'm glad you think "both are beautiful," if I were your fair-skinned son reading this, I wouldn't feel so beautiful.

So you logic is . . . well, not logical at all.

Anonymous wrote:You completely missed the point. The point is at we talk about skin and hair. Some is good some is bad. No big deal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who think that black people are too sensitive, how do you feel when someone drops something like this:
I actually do not like the way redheads look, at all. I see may white parents go on about cute redheaded kids. Some are faking it because I know a few whites who also hate red hair too. What if I said to a parent of a redhead "oh, it does not look so bad, maybe as he gets older it will change"? Would that be hurtful?

I have had countless white people make silly comments about dark skin or kinky hair that sound just like that.

Another example, I hate short legs. What if I told my short legged friends that there are a whole host of things that they could do to make their legs look longer. To me that would be a put down.
Come on people, we all have an Achilles heel. Try not to aim for that, we are not overly sensitive.

We talk about good skin and bad skin all the time. We also talk about good hair and bad hair.

For example, I am Irish and my H is italian. My oldest got the bad skin, mine, it burns and breaks out, etc. my youngest got the Italian skin, is olive, tans nice and never breaks out. When I was discussing this my black girlfriend was surprised we would just publiclly say one kid had bad skin. It's not a big deal.

Aos the oldest got the Italian hair, thick, and perfect all the time. The young one was bald until he was 3 and his hair is wispy and tragic, he will be bald when older.

It's a fact, I still think they are both beautiful.

uh

Have you NEVER seen red-headed, fair-skinned Italians? Southern Italian roots here with 5 cousins who are all red heads who burn
I, too, am as white as they come - with green eyes and light, straight hair.

nice stereotyping here . . .