Do you let your dog off leash ever?

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Please post the law that says you can attack a dog or a person who ‘invades your personal space’. You’re a psycho

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Please post the law that says you can attack a dog or a person who ‘invades your personal space’. You’re a psycho

It's called defending yourself. And the only psycho is you.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? :roll: Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

Please post the law that says a dog being ‘in your space’ at a dog park entitles you or your dog to attack it?

I don't know what you're referring to, nor do I need to provide you with a law saying "consequences for breaking the laws designed to keep you safe should be expected." If my dog and I are minding our business and you/your dog get in the way of that because you've broken the law and allowed your off-leash dog to run up on me/mine, I will not be found liable for any damage that may occur to your dog. You will likely be found liable for the simple act of allowing your dog in my space ($100 fine where i live), and you'll definitely be liable for any damage that occurs to me/my dog.

It's not so much that we're entitled to attack; we're defending. Yes, my dog is entitled to self-defense from unleashed dogs and their law-breaking owners.

So don't be that person and there won't be a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Please post the law that says you can attack a dog or a person who ‘invades your personal space’. You’re a psycho

The only person who sounds "psycho" here is you. The argument is simple, and your continued refusal to learn and do better makes you sound mentally unwell. That you're projecting it onto others, calling the people who get it right "psycho" only adds to the argument that you're not a healthy, stable person.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

I’m asking where you are. What’s the law? Where I live, there’s not the law you mentioned.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

I followed the thread. The unofficial dog park term was accurate. Certain areas of parks allow unleashed dogs during certain hours. So yes, an unofficial dog park.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

I followed the thread. The unofficial dog park term was accurate. Certain areas of parks allow unleashed dogs during certain hours. So yes, an unofficial dog park.

If they ALLOW unleashed dogs it's officially a dog park during those hours. If they do NOT allow dogs but people use them anyways, it's unofficial. I know english is a dumb language and hard to keep up with, but do try.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
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Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

I followed the thread. The unofficial dog park term was accurate. Certain areas of parks allow unleashed dogs during certain hours. So yes, an unofficial dog park.

If they ALLOW unleashed dogs it's officially a dog park during those hours. If they do NOT allow dogs but people use them anyways, it's unofficial. I know english is a dumb language and hard to keep up with, but do try.

No, at no point in time does a park become a "dog park". There may be hours posted when dogs are allowed off-leash AND you're still expected to have and maintain control of your animal(s), keeping them away from other people, their kids, their dogs, traffic in nearby roads, etc.

A key component of quality snark is having a valid point. Getting snarky when you don't makes you sound stupid, at best, and more often unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

I’m asking where you are. What’s the law? Where I live, there’s not the law you mentioned.

PP literally cited it for you. You aren't even trying to avoid sounding stupid, and you do.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? :roll: Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

Please post the law that says a dog being ‘in your space’ at a dog park entitles you or your dog to attack it?

I don't know what you're referring to, nor do I need to provide you with a law saying "consequences for breaking the laws designed to keep you safe should be expected." If my dog and I are minding our business and you/your dog get in the way of that because you've broken the law and allowed your off-leash dog to run up on me/mine, I will not be found liable for any damage that may occur to your dog. You will likely be found liable for the simple act of allowing your dog in my space ($100 fine where i live), and you'll definitely be liable for any damage that occurs to me/my dog.

It's not so much that we're entitled to attack; we're defending. Yes, my dog is entitled to self-defense from unleashed dogs and their law-breaking owners.

So don't be that person and there won't be a problem.

If your dog attacks and hurts or kills another dog and deemed a danger, yes it can be put down or removed from you.

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Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

I followed the thread. The unofficial dog park term was accurate. Certain areas of parks allow unleashed dogs during certain hours. So yes, an unofficial dog park.

If parks allow it, it’s official. Keep your crazy dog away.

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Anonymous wrote:When my DD was 6 years old, we were in a relatively empty park pretending to play baseball. She would bat the pretend ball and then run the bases for a home run. We were having fun. Then an off-leash dog decided that this looked like a fun game. It came tearing after her barking and lunging and she screamed and ran faster. Of course, this really made the dog want to chase her. She finally fell to the ground screaming and the dog bit her. It was a small dog but she was also small. The whole thing was really terrifying. The owner just said sorry my (little angel dog) has never done anything like that before. This is the problem.

Yes, exactly this. I also had an experience like this when my kid was young and it totally alerted me to the dangers if off leash dogs. Kids can be really unpredictable and loud, and a lot of the very normal things kids do will be interesting, exciting, or scary for a dog. No one should have to worry that if their kids darts behind a tree, calls out in excitement, or falls off the slide.

Also, a lot of common dog names and common kid names are the same or similar now. Please don't take your dog named Luna or Charlie to a local park unleashed as the odds some parent or kid will yell your dog's name is a really really high.

Yes. This also explains away the whole 'no one was using the playground' argument. The playground is for children, and good parents aren't going to let their kids play if there are unleashed dogs. We also don't take our kids to the dog park, because the dog park is for unleashed dogs.

A place for everything, and everything in its place.

I’ve never seen a kid or parent when I’ve taken my dog to the playground at 5:30 am during the summer. If they came, I’d leave.

This isn't the point. The law isn't "no leashes unless you see someone, then (try to) leash your dog". The law is clear, as is your stupidity.

But there’s no one around to enforce it, so…

The "it's only illegal if I get caught" mentality is such a disturbed way of living. Best of luck with it. On a long enough timeline, you'll understand why the law exists as written, and why you should follow it even when no one is around to force you.

Integrity is doing the right thing when "no one is around to enforce it" because YOU are around to manage yourself like a responsible adult.

Lol you idiots screaming about BREAKING THE LAW. I just looked and at least at my park, dogs are allowed off leash before 9AM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Pics or it didn't happen, PP. Anyone can say anything they'd like on an anon board, and your level of glee at having pulled a "GOTCHA!!" suggests you're full of... something.

Yep. 9 pm to 9 AM. allowed off leash in parks where I live

Leash or no leash, they have to be under your control. If they aren’t you are risking injury.

This. And let's be real: the sort of people who believe in "unofficial dog runs" aren't the sort of owners with highly-trained dogs with excellent recall.

It’s actually legal. Someone looked it up

Here? No, it's not. That it's legal during certain hours somewhere else doesn't mean it's legal in the DC area.

And even if it were legal to have off-leash hours somewhere here, off-leash hours do not exempt you from the requirement that you control your animal and keep them from unwanted contact with others.

It is NOT LEGAL to let your dog run up on a stranger or invade someone's personal space. It's dangerous, and stupid, and reveals that you're a terrible dog owner and don't know how to handle your animal. It's against the law for a reason, and you should not expect safety or special treatment just because you're (willfully) ignoring the law(s).

Please post the law that says it is NOT LEGAL to invade your ‘personal space’ in a dog park. I’ll wait.

If you can't look up the laws of dog ownership where you are, you shouldn't own a dog.

If you can't follow the thread, you shouldn't post to it. Nobody's talking about an actual dog park. We're talking to the idiots who claim groups of people breaking the law in public space are creating "unofficial dog runs" (which don't actually exist).

Since you need the help: In MoCo, it's "unwanted contact". Google it.

I followed the thread. The unofficial dog park term was accurate. Certain areas of parks allow unleashed dogs during certain hours. So yes, an unofficial dog park.

If parks allow it, it’s official. Keep your crazy dog away.

Christmas morning, and you're already on this?

The person with their dog on leash is trying to keep their dog away from the crazy (i.e. you). If you can't recall your dog on verbal commands, keep your dog on a leash. Parks do not allow your dog to run up on other people/other leashed dogs. That's not what off-leash hours are for.

Merry Christmas, idiot, and good luck to your unfortunate dog(s).

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? :roll: Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

Please post the law that says a dog being ‘in your space’ at a dog park entitles you or your dog to attack it?

I don't know what you're referring to, nor do I need to provide you with a law saying "consequences for breaking the laws designed to keep you safe should be expected." If my dog and I are minding our business and you/your dog get in the way of that because you've broken the law and allowed your off-leash dog to run up on me/mine, I will not be found liable for any damage that may occur to your dog. You will likely be found liable for the simple act of allowing your dog in my space ($100 fine where i live), and you'll definitely be liable for any damage that occurs to me/my dog.

It's not so much that we're entitled to attack; we're defending. Yes, my dog is entitled to self-defense from unleashed dogs and their law-breaking owners.

So don't be that person and there won't be a problem.

If your dog attacks and hurts or kills another dog and deemed a danger, yes it can be put down or removed from you.

If my dog is on a leash, and your unleashed dog starts something, nobody sane is going to blame my dog. They're going to blame your dog's irresponsible owner for failing to maintain appropriate distance from strangers/strange dogs.

If your dog's recall abilities don't allow you to do that without a leash, you need to leash your dog. Keeping your dog away from others will always be your responsibility, even if the law says leashes aren't required. Control of your animal is always required. It's your animal, and your responsibility to keep it away from others.

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My aged dog who could barely walk was off leash all the time.