Shame on Arlington County HS Volleyball Coaches

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

+1 Go play a no-cut sport. If the eighth grader makes the JV team and beats older kids for that spot, good for her. Like it or not, HS coaches are judged in part on their win-loss record, so I don’t fault any coach for selecting the most competitive team possible. Every kid who wants to play a HS sport can play, but nobody is guaranteed a spot on a HS team.

I mean, STFU. Your kid doesn't even attend the school. You are a joke. You're on the wrong side of this and people will hate you for it. Promise.

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or


Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

Sweetie, you don't even know what you are talking about. Your kid is 12. Get back to us when you have had a decade to see how this actually works.

Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

None. This happens everywhere.

Stop being a moron. All you're doing is proving your ignorance. It is pay to play.

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

+1 Go play a no-cut sport. If the eighth grader makes the JV team and beats older kids for that spot, good for her. Like it or not, HS coaches are judged in part on their win-loss record, so I don’t fault any coach for selecting the most competitive team possible. Every kid who wants to play a HS sport can play, but nobody is guaranteed a spot on a HS team.

I mean, STFU. Your kid doesn't even attend the school. You are a joke. You're on the wrong side of this and people will hate you for it. Promise.

You have no idea who my kid is or where they go to school. It’s possible for opinions to differ on the issue. Promise.

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

+1 Go play a no-cut sport. If the eighth grader makes the JV team and beats older kids for that spot, good for her. Like it or not, HS coaches are judged in part on their win-loss record, so I don’t fault any coach for selecting the most competitive team possible. Every kid who wants to play a HS sport can play, but nobody is guaranteed a spot on a HS team.

I mean, STFU. Your kid doesn't even attend the school. You are a joke. You're on the wrong side of this and people will hate you for it. Promise.

I mean, if this became the tone of the conversation, you should STFU. Your kid cannot make it into the HS team because an 8th grader shows up at the tryouts. You must be completely delusional if you think the universe owes your kid a spot on the HS team. Get your kid on the track team and you can still brag about their athleticism.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or


Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

Sweetie, you don't even know what you are talking about. Your kid is 12. Get back to us when you have had a decade to see how this actually works.

Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

None. This happens everywhere.

Stop being a moron. All you're doing is proving your ignorance. It is pay to play.

You seem to be the moron here. The kid pays the club and the coach sees little money unless s/he is the club owner. The money flows into the club even if little Bobby gets upset and leaves: little Johnny is right there to take his spot right away.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

+1 Go play a no-cut sport. If the eighth grader makes the JV team and beats older kids for that spot, good for her. Like it or not, HS coaches are judged in part on their win-loss record, so I don’t fault any coach for selecting the most competitive team possible. Every kid who wants to play a HS sport can play, but nobody is guaranteed a spot on a HS team.

That is not true at YHS.

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

+1 Go play a no-cut sport. If the eighth grader makes the JV team and beats older kids for that spot, good for her. Like it or not, HS coaches are judged in part on their win-loss record, so I don’t fault any coach for selecting the most competitive team possible. Every kid who wants to play a HS sport can play, but nobody is guaranteed a spot on a HS team.

That is not true at YHS.

There are plenty of athletic opportunities at W-L for both the IB magnet program transfer students and in-bounds students. I don’t think Wakefield is accepting many transfers due to overcrowding so IB is the only alternative to YHS. But due to VHSL eligibility rules I believe transfers among schools are most easily made at 9th grade.

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OP your complaint really should be with the Virginia high school league. They should never have allowed 8th graders to play high school sports. Most states don’t allow this. Some that do only allow it if the middle school and high school are run by the same administrator which are usually very small rural schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or


Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

Sweetie, you don't even know what you are talking about. Your kid is 12. Get back to us when you have had a decade to see how this actually works.

Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

None. This happens everywhere.

Stop being a moron. All you're doing is proving your ignorance. It is pay to play.

You seem to be the moron here. The kid pays the club and the coach sees little money unless s/he is the club owner. The money flows into the club even if little Bobby gets upset and leaves: little Johnny is right there to take his spot right away.

NP. Holy Sh*t you are ignorant. That isnt how bros work the dollars at all. Sit down lady.

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or


Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

Sweetie, you don't even know what you are talking about. Your kid is 12. Get back to us when you have had a decade to see how this actually works.

Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

None. This happens everywhere.

Stop being a moron. All you're doing is proving your ignorance. It is pay to play.

You seem to be the moron here. The kid pays the club and the coach sees little money unless s/he is the club owner. The money flows into the club even if little Bobby gets upset and leaves: little Johnny is right there to take his spot right away.

Hey Bud, you know that 99.9% of all clubs are started by 3 or 4 teamates, right? What do you think the profit share is if Chad has 16 kids paying $4200 per while Brady has 2 kids paying $2200 per?

Did you even take a business 101 class at ECU?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

How can a coach do that in sports like golf, tennis, or swimming, where there is an official result?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

How can a coach do that in sports like golf, tennis, or swimming, where there is an official result?

Kids don't get to be stars in those sports by being on a school team. They train with outside coaches for swimming, golf and tennis.

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or


Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

Sweetie, you don't even know what you are talking about. Your kid is 12. Get back to us when you have had a decade to see how this actually works.

Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

None. This happens everywhere.

Stop being a moron. All you're doing is proving your ignorance. It is pay to play.

You seem to be the moron here. The kid pays the club and the coach sees little money unless s/he is the club owner. The money flows into the club even if little Bobby gets upset and leaves: little Johnny is right there to take his spot right away.

Hey Bud, you know that 99.9% of all clubs are started by 3 or 4 teamates, right? What do you think the profit share is if Chad has 16 kids paying $4200 per while Brady has 2 kids paying $2200 per?

Did you even take a business 101 class at ECU?

I don't see how this is relevant to the issue of an 8th grader making a HS team instead of a high schooler, but I am going to entertain the business problem that you struggle with. In this environment, Brady can also get 16 kids paying $4200. Just look at the MOJO VBC: they can charge as much as they want without delivering any results because there are too many rich parents throwing money at them. There are always more players who want to play than spots on club teams. Most coaches are paid per season with the revenue going to the club, not to the coaches. Next you are going to tell me that Silvia shares the Metro VBC revenues with her coaches, right?

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches are scum and should be outed. Name them so we can shame them.

This happened with TC Williams baseball maybe 5 years ago. The coach (who has since been fired for telling a kid he 'should kill himself' for throwing too many balls) literally filled the JV team with his travel kids and excluded all he other boys who had played Alexandria ball for half a decade. The guy was an absolute piece of trash.

The next coach was a fat POS from BI who did the exact same thing until he got quietly fired/let go for telling a family he 'couldn't waste a jersey' on a senior when he wanted to play a freshman who paid him for travel.

There is no world where a 13 yo should play ahead of a 16 yo, talented or otherwise. This is not the MLB.

OP- sorry you are in this scenario but know that these losers are temporary. They will get tossed.

There is a world where a 13 yo is better than half of the 16 yo on the high school varsity team. Just think about the beasts from Metro or


Paramount. This season Metro had a 12 yo on the 13s team who can kick your 16 yo's behind.

NP and I believe that, but I don’t understand why any serious kid that age even wants to try out for the HS team. My daughter is good. I don’t think she could kick any 16 yo’s behind but I think she’s better than a lot of them. There are plenty of private middle school programs around. She doesn’t want to play at her middle school, which doesn’t have a team, with kids who won’t be the same skill level. She certainly doesn’t want to play for HS right now. Like others in her same situation, she’s seriously prepping for October tryouts for club season. Being on a school team right now would take away from that. There is plenty of time for HS play when she’s is in HS. I don’t understand why any parent would encourage this for volleyball since we have other options for training right now. Any kid that good is not relying on the school for instruction. They go somewhere else.

Not everyone thinks the same way as your kid or your family. There are kids who want to play at the highest level possible because they want to be in that circle and they like the challenge. If a 13 yo kicks the 16 yo's behind, the 16 yo should not play on the HS team.

But a 13 yo should play for a school they don't even attend?

Do you losers really not see how wrapped up you are in your kid's life? None of your kids are going to the Olympicsa. None are getting D1 scholarahips. And there are no D3 athletic scholarships. If all your value is based on your 13 yo maturing faster than the neigbor's 15 yo than you are pathetic.

I would agree with you if the 13 yo had the opportunity to play at her school. We pushed really hard for a MS volleyball team at my DD's school for almost one year. The answer was always "We are trying, but we may not be able to accommodate." And I don't have a horse in the race: my DD doesn't have the skills to compete with your 15yo: she simply likes the sport and she would like to play more. But I see extremely talented 13 yo who want the challenge and a MS team is not available. Again, if your 15 yo cannot secure a spot on the HS team because a 13 yo shows up to the tryouts, your 15 yo should not be on the high school team.

Again. No. A kid who attends the HS should not be prohibited from playing because a kid NOT IN THE HS wants to play on that team. Not a hard concept.

Kid in the cluster. If she makes the team as an 8th grader, she will likely make the team the very next year. She will probably be a star athlete on that HS team. She has no opportunities in MS. Very easy concept: if the HS kid is not as good as an 8th grader, she is probably not very good and she should find another sport (for example, she can try track - I heard they don't cut anyone).

Sweetie, you don't even know what you are talking about. Your kid is 12. Get back to us when you have had a decade to see how this actually works.

Most of the the time a kid makes a team it's because they are paying the coach via travel. It doesn't have diddily to do with skill. The coaches know if they put little Bobby on the team they are guaranteed another 5 years of travel dues. It's protection of revenue. Baseball is rife with this. I know two kids who walked on to D1 teams (and actually played 4 years) that were denied a spot at South Lakes because they 'couldn't make the cut.' All that meant is that they weren't paying the right travel coaches. Guess how many players South Lakes sent to D1 schools in that 4 years?

None. This happens everywhere.

Stop being a moron. All you're doing is proving your ignorance. It is pay to play.

You seem to be the moron here. The kid pays the club and the coach sees little money unless s/he is the club owner. The money flows into the club even if little Bobby gets upset and leaves: little Johnny is right there to take his spot right away.

NP. Holy Sh*t you are ignorant. That isnt how bros work the dollars at all. Sit down lady.

I like how you call names, claiming that this is not how bros work the money without explaining your understanding of the business model. How about you clarify what you mean?

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Anonymous wrote:For putting multiple 8th graders on Arlington County high school JV teams (not even freshman teams!) and bumping hardworking sophomores/juniors who now can’t play for their *actual* school.

13-year-olds shouldn’t be on a high school JV team when there are only 12 spots.

And shame on the coaches for enabling this.

they are looking at it from the perspective that they all go to the same school, just not same location. you can only play for the "feedee" if you are at a "feeder", right? i kind of get it.