study shows how 42M recipients spend their food stamps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Junk food is cheap. Healthy food is expensive. Work from there.

The reality is that preparing healthy food is time-consuming, especially if someone is juggling two jobs or one job and childcare (e.g., getting kids to and from daycare, school, etc). It is exhausting to stand on your feet all day, then stand to cook as well as be present for your kids.

It effing sucks to not have money. My parents stressed over every meal as there were more mouths than portions. I grew up hating cooking because it = stress. Now I generally love to cook, but it took some years to get to that place.

So many excuses from well meaning, but misguided altruists.

It takes 10 mins to boil an egg. You can eat the white for protein and discard the yolk if you want.

You can eat a banana or fruit immediately.

Pasta takes 7 minutes.

I’m sorry but microwaving a hungry man dinner that’s 55% sodium and other crap hurts our country.

On a similar note, I’m tired of the “healthy at any size” movement.

Snap benefits primarily being used for fking soda and chips is why we are here. It affects everything from early death to military retention rates. Stop making excuses for unhealthy behavior because you feel bad about poor people. You are not helping with encouraging shtty food at every meal.

So a dozen eggs = 2.5 servings for a family of four. What happens for the rest of the week?

Pasta sucks. It really does. Just carbs carbs carbs. I make it for my family 1x/week with sauteed fresh veggies and a protein side or with tossed greens and browned Italian chicken sausage. That's it.

Fruit is great in the moment but there's no protein in it.

The real solution - people earning living wages through just one job, having an affordable home, and access to health care so if they are injured on the job they can recover and return to the work force as opposed to hobble around for the remainder of their life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Junk food is cheap. Healthy food is expensive. Work from there.

The reality is that preparing healthy food is time-consuming, especially if someone is juggling two jobs or one job and childcare (e.g., getting kids to and from daycare, school, etc). It is exhausting to stand on your feet all day, then stand to cook as well as be present for your kids.

It effing sucks to not have money. My parents stressed over every meal as there were more mouths than portions. I grew up hating cooking because it = stress. Now I generally love to cook, but it took some years to get to that place.

So many excuses from well meaning, but misguided altruists.

It takes 10 mins to boil an egg. You can eat the white for protein and discard the yolk if you want.

You can eat a banana or fruit immediately.

Pasta takes 7 minutes.

I’m sorry but microwaving a hungry man dinner that’s 55% sodium and other crap hurts our country.

On a similar note, I’m tired of the “healthy at any size” movement.

Snap benefits primarily being used for fking soda and chips is why we are here. It affects everything from early death to military retention rates. Stop making excuses for unhealthy behavior because you feel bad about poor people. You are not helping with encouraging shtty food at every meal.

So a dozen eggs = 2.5 servings for a family of four. What happens for the rest of the week?

Pasta sucks. It really does. Just carbs carbs carbs. I make it for my family 1x/week with sauteed fresh veggies and a protein side or with tossed greens and browned Italian chicken sausage. That's it.

Fruit is great in the moment but there's no protein in it.

The real solution - people earning living wages through just one job, having an affordable home, and access to health care so if they are injured on the job they can recover and return to the work force as opposed to hobble around for the remainder of their life.

You’re so fatalistic. Get a grip.

Why don’t we subsidize peanut butter (or sun butter) and like Mike’s Killer bread instead of chips and coke??? Peanut buttwr is super healthy. Or why don’t we advocate mofos eat lentils??? You act like this is an impossible task to quickly eat healthy. Americans are not spineless sacks of jelly. If they want to eat healthy, cheaply, it is possible. And it doesn’t take cooking for a long time. If we are paying for it, we should get some say in it over Coca Cola company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

then you should be pushing congress to not subsidize this "crybaby" corn farmers.

Remember, most of the corn farms are in red states.

[Anonymous]

There's no solution for eating well because in order to do that - healthy and tasty - you need time + right ingredients. Sorry but who wants to eat a boiled egg every day?! Who wants to eat raw carrots daily? So you're gonna buy 10 bananas and eat 3 every day? Are you kidding - would you do it?

The only solution really is get off SNAP and either get a job that allows for $ to get something you throw in the microwave/frozen foods ad nauseum or order out. OR change the conversation entirely and talk about a fundamental change of delivering actual sustainable foods to those less fortunate.

If you or I were on SNAP for the foreseeable forever, we would also be dining of fast food daily. For us who have always had money, we have no idea what life is like for those who don't but I imagine they don't have a ton of education, time or interest in "eating well" rather eating something/anything that tastes like something and let's face it, 3 aisles and 50 brands of chips out there makes for an easy shopping decision!

This whole conversation is silly. So if you disagree about SNAP being spent on junk food, what does it actually matter? You really so egotistical as to think you're better eating a ton of salt/sugar/food colorings and preservatives? Unless you have a personal chef who makes you meals like Giselle or Opera, I bet that you are eating your fair share of junk food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

then you should be pushing congress to not subsidize this "crybaby" corn farmers.

Remember, most of the corn farms are in red states.

There’s a blind spot here about who the corn lobby is getting subsidies for

[Anonymous]

I had two egg whites, two pieces of toast with olive oil and some berries for lunch. I am full. It took 10 minutes to make and it was less than $5. I am not on snap. This meal doesn’t cause obesity. America is massively obese. We should not subsidize heart attacks. Anyone claiming different is poorly educated and wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's no solution for eating well because in order to do that - healthy and tasty - you need time + right ingredients. Sorry but who wants to eat a boiled egg every day?! Who wants to eat raw carrots daily? So you're gonna buy 10 bananas and eat 3 every day? Are you kidding - would you do it?

The only solution really is get off SNAP and either get a job that allows for $ to get something you throw in the microwave/frozen foods ad nauseum or order out. OR change the conversation entirely and talk about a fundamental change of delivering actual sustainable foods to those less fortunate.

If you or I were on SNAP for the foreseeable forever, we would also be dining of fast food daily. For us who have always had money, we have no idea what life is like for those who don't but I imagine they don't have a ton of education, time or interest in "eating well" rather eating something/anything that tastes like something and let's face it, 3 aisles and 50 brands of chips out there makes for an easy shopping decision!

This whole conversation is silly. So if you disagree about SNAP being spent on junk food, what does it actually matter? You really so egotistical as to think you're better eating a ton of salt/sugar/food colorings and preservatives? Unless you have a personal chef who makes you meals like Giselle or Opera, I bet that you are eating your fair share of junk food.

Your entire premise is so self defeating and weak I don’t even know where to start. People should eat a little bit, mostly plants.

Honestly, if we could mandate the Mediterranean diet in this country I would.

But we can’t and we have huge lobbies and they get their way.

You crying about how hard it is to make a PBJ, eat some grilled carrots, cook lentils, or eat a boiled egg are the problem. I can’t imagine what else is an impossible seeming task for you. Should we subsidize dry cleaning too because it’s too hard to wash clothes? How about we subsidize robot butlers for poor people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had two egg whites, two pieces of toast with olive oil and some berries for lunch. I am full. It took 10 minutes to make and it was less than $5. I am not on snap. This meal doesn’t cause obesity. America is massively obese. We should not subsidize heart attacks. Anyone claiming different is poorly educated and wrong.

What kind of eggs did you have? Cause let me tell you that good eggs are $$$. Olive oil??! Are you kidding? What kind of toast did you have cause white bread is about as healthy as Doritos. I love that you think you're being healthy. Just because it was not a bag of chips does not mean it's healthy. What poor person is going to have the education of eating a balanced diet - are you Fing kidding me? They got a lot of other things to worry about in their lives I'm sure of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Junk food is cheap. Healthy food is expensive. Work from there.

The reality is that preparing healthy food is time-consuming, especially if someone is juggling two jobs or one job and childcare (e.g., getting kids to and from daycare, school, etc). It is exhausting to stand on your feet all day, then stand to cook as well as be present for your kids.

It effing sucks to not have money. My parents stressed over every meal as there were more mouths than portions. I grew up hating cooking because it = stress. Now I generally love to cook, but it took some years to get to that place.

So many excuses from well meaning, but misguided altruists.

It takes 10 mins to boil an egg. You can eat the white for protein and discard the yolk if you want.

You can eat a banana or fruit immediately.

Pasta takes 7 minutes.

I’m sorry but microwaving a hungry man dinner that’s 55% sodium and other crap hurts our country.

On a similar note, I’m tired of the “healthy at any size” movement.

Snap benefits primarily being used for fking soda and chips is why we are here. It affects everything from early death to military retention rates. Stop making excuses for unhealthy behavior because you feel bad about poor people. You are not helping with encouraging shtty food at every meal.

So a dozen eggs = 2.5 servings for a family of four. What happens for the rest of the week?

Pasta sucks. It really does. Just carbs carbs carbs. I make it for my family 1x/week with sauteed fresh veggies and a protein side or with tossed greens and browned Italian chicken sausage. That's it.

Fruit is great in the moment but there's no protein in it.

The real solution - people earning living wages through just one job, having an affordable home, and access to health care so if they are injured on the job they can recover and return to the work force as opposed to hobble around for the remainder of their life.

You’re so fatalistic. Get a grip.

Why don’t we subsidize peanut butter (or sun butter) and like Mike’s Killer bread instead of chips and coke??? Peanut buttwr is super healthy. Or why don’t we advocate mofos eat lentils??? You act like this is an impossible task to quickly eat healthy. Americans are not spineless sacks of jelly. If they want to eat healthy, cheaply, it is possible. And it doesn’t take cooking for a long time. If we are paying for it, we should get some say in it over Coca Cola company.

Tell me how your kids down lentils day after day. Seriously.

And LOL about this new found religion on Big Ag. It's been there forever. But just know you care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

I am advocating snap benefits exclude soft drinks, and a lot of deserts, and chips and a panel of experts or consultants design a menu of foods that don’t cause cancer and childhood obesity.

We pay for this stuff. Why overburden our health care system? You’re not doing anyone any favors defending cola as a snap choice.

And yes, I generally eat chicken, rice, veggies, a lot of peanut butter and cheap veggies and it’s not
weird and it takes the exact same time to make as any food. Not sure why you’re willing to die on this hill.

[Anonymous]

I’m saying get a panel of experts to preclude certain foods from snap eligibility. Sorry you think it’s unfair. I know everyone is perpetually aggrieved these days, but we’d be a lot healthier if lobbies didn’t lobby for Froot Loops or if ketchup was considered a vegetable. Hard truths, folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had two egg whites, two pieces of toast with olive oil and some berries for lunch. I am full. It took 10 minutes to make and it was less than $5. I am not on snap. This meal doesn’t cause obesity. America is massively obese. We should not subsidize heart attacks. Anyone claiming different is poorly educated and wrong.

What kind of eggs did you have? Cause let me tell you that good eggs are $$$. Olive oil??! Are you kidding? What kind of toast did you have cause white bread is about as healthy as Doritos. I love that you think you're being healthy. Just because it was not a bag of chips does not mean it's healthy. What poor person is going to have the education of eating a balanced diet - are you Fing kidding me? They got a lot of other things to worry about in their lives I'm sure of it.

What are you adamantly opposed to healthy eating? Wheat toast by the way. My eggs were $4.99 for 12, which by estimates is about a dollar cheap than a family size bag of Doritos. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

I am advocating snap benefits exclude soft drinks, and a lot of deserts, and chips and a panel of experts or consultants design a menu of foods that don’t cause cancer and childhood obesity.

We pay for this stuff. Why overburden our health care system? You’re not doing anyone any favors defending cola as a snap choice.

And yes, I generally eat chicken, rice, veggies, a lot of peanut butter and cheap veggies and it’s not
weird and it takes the exact same time to make as any food. Not sure why you’re willing to die on this hill.

How many hours do you work/week? What's your HHI? How old are your children? What's your child care coverage?