Secondary school BATHROOMS

[Anonymous]

A lot of kids just hang out in the stalls in their phones as well especially during class time when they get a pass. It has almost become the norm to take 10 to 15 minutes use the bathroom since the kids basically treat it as a lounge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids just hang out in the stalls in their phones as well especially during class time when they get a pass. It has almost become the norm to take 10 to 15 minutes use the bathroom since the kids basically treat it as a lounge.

Maybe if they put SROs back in schools they could monitor bathrooms to ensure students weren't taking too long to poop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As so many have proposed, why can't you move the smokers outside? A security guard goes into the bathroom has any smokers come out and send them on their way outside! Then the students who need that toilet can use it! Why is this so hard to solve? I know I'm missing something here.

I think it's because minors aren't supposed to smoke so the school can't turn a blind eye to it. However, MCPS isn't a law enforcement agency either. I agree they should send them outside and let MCPD handle law enforcement since that's their job.

All MCPS facilities are smoke free areas so no one; students, staff, or other adults are not permitted to smoke regardless if they are inside or outside.i

Thanks for the laugh. Have you been inside a HS bathroom lately? They don't smoke outside and would get caught outside. Inside? Who is going to drag them out of the stall or the bathroom? The principal? The counselor? How about their parent/caregiver!!!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As so many have proposed, why can't you move the smokers outside? A security guard goes into the bathroom has any smokers come out and send them on their way outside! Then the students who need that toilet can use it! Why is this so hard to solve? I know I'm missing something here.

I think it's because minors aren't supposed to smoke so the school can't turn a blind eye to it. However, MCPS isn't a law enforcement agency either. I agree they should send them outside and let MCPD handle law enforcement since that's their job.

All MCPS facilities are smoke free areas so no one; students, staff, or other adults are not permitted to smoke regardless if they are inside or outside.i

Thanks for the laugh. Have you been inside a HS bathroom lately? They don't smoke outside and would get caught outside. Inside? Who is going to drag them out of the stall or the bathroom? The principal? The counselor? How about their parent/caregiver!!!?

“Dragged out of a bathroom stall”. ???

- instant lawsuit against MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As so many have proposed, why can't you move the smokers outside? A security guard goes into the bathroom has any smokers come out and send them on their way outside! Then the students who need that toilet can use it! Why is this so hard to solve? I know I'm missing something here.

I think it's because minors aren't supposed to smoke so the school can't turn a blind eye to it. However, MCPS isn't a law enforcement agency either. I agree they should send them outside and let MCPD handle law enforcement since that's their job.

All MCPS facilities are smoke free areas so no one; students, staff, or other adults are not permitted to smoke regardless if they are inside or outside.i

Thanks for the laugh. Have you been inside a HS bathroom lately? They don't smoke outside and would get caught outside. Inside? Who is going to drag them out of the stall or the bathroom? The principal? The counselor? How about their parent/caregiver!!!?

“Dragged out of a bathroom stall”. ???

- instant lawsuit against MCPS.

No, let's sue the families of students who make the toilets and bathrooms inoperable to use by the students who actually need the toilet for its intended purpose. Again have you been INSIDE a MCPS HS bathroom lately?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In addition to physical limitations (closing facilities) many schools also limit numbers of passes for students. I counted what my child is "entitled to" based on the policies at his school and he can go 5x/class during a marking period, and has 7 classes, so he can go to the bathroom 35/45 days. I guess the other days he just has to go during lunch or hold it.

I have given him permission to just leave the room if he's denied access to a bathroom and needs it. I'll deal with the discipline. His doctor is willing to write a note because my kid has suffered from health consequences related to holding pee and poop before.

Every parent on behalf of a
child with this kind of problem should have the doctor write a note stating a diagnosis and that the child should have a 504 plan with a "flash pass" to the bathroom.

I'd like to see this dumb policy spawn hundreds of 504 plan requests per school.

Situations:
1. Kid has to hold it in because they used up all the bathroom passes allowed per quarter. Hopefully not all the teachers have this policy or is this school-wide? Some HS also restrict bathroom use for first 10 and last 10 min of class.
2. When kid gets to an unlocked bathroom, there is either a line, or is occupied by other students who are using stalls/toilet for smoking etc., and in some cases, those same students tell the kid to leave because kid is not part of whatever is going on in that bathroom. So then kid leaves Bathroom A in hopes of making it to Bathroom B in time. And this cycle may repeat.
3. Not enough time to use bathroom between classes.
4. With less than a handful of bathrooms out of 20+ unlocked, long lines to use it at lunch, and as stated in #2 above, smokers and inappropriately behaving students may have occupied the stalls or the entire bathroom.

Can not emphasize this enough, students are walking around having to SEARCH for an UNLOCKED, UNOCCUPIED, SAFE bathroom to use during the school day. What the F country do we live in?!

No SROs or any other law enforcement in schools!

Defund the police!

#BlackLivesMatter

So you agree that SROs should be guarding our toilets?

NP - after reading this thread, I want to guard the bathrooms myself. I have a 5th grader and a 3rd grader… it’s really weird and distressing to think that they may not have proper access to bathrooms. I went through MCPS. I remember not loving the bathrooms in high school, but I felt reasonably safe. There were certainly no issues with the middle school bathrooms. I believe that my kids can adapt to this mess, but they shouldn’t have to.

[Anonymous]

SROs and ceos aren’t the right ones to guard the bathroom but McPS security officers are the right person for this. Most schools don’t have enough to cover all the bathrooms thought, and there’s a particular shortage of female officers. I have heard it has helped at those HS where they have stationed a security officer outside the bathroom though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SROs and ceos aren’t the right ones to guard the bathroom but McPS security officers are the right person for this. Most schools don’t have enough to cover all the bathrooms thought, and there’s a particular shortage of female officers. I have heard it has helped at those HS where they have stationed a security officer outside the bathroom though.

MCPS should not have security officers either.

Why do people think police are the solution to anything ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SROs and ceos aren’t the right ones to guard the bathroom but McPS security officers are the right person for this. Most schools don’t have enough to cover all the bathrooms thought, and there’s a particular shortage of female officers. I have heard it has helped at those HS where they have stationed a security officer outside the bathroom though.

MCPS should not have security officers either.

Why do people think police are the solution to anything ?

You can't be serious.

[Anonymous]

Put a few porta potties at each school. No one will spend too much time in them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Put a few porta potties at each school. No one will spend too much time in them.

Guarantee you'll have 4 kids packed in a porta potty vaping and playing on their phones within a day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SROs and ceos aren’t the right ones to guard the bathroom but McPS security officers are the right person for this. Most schools don’t have enough to cover all the bathrooms thought, and there’s a particular shortage of female officers. I have heard it has helped at those HS where they have stationed a security officer outside the bathroom though.

MCPS should not have security officers either.

Why do people think police are the solution to anything ?

The Troll is strong in this one!

[Anonymous]

Why can't they hire a bathroom SRO? Maybe call them BSROs something new to be less controversial?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Put a few porta potties at each school. No one will spend too much time in them.

Guarantee you'll have 4 kids packed in a porta potty vaping and playing on their phones within a day.

Fine with me as long as the kids who need to use the bathroom to actually pee have access to a safe bathroom. Vape all you want in the porta potty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Put a few porta potties at each school. No one will spend too much time in them.

Guarantee you'll have 4 kids packed in a porta potty vaping and playing on their phones within a day.

Fine with me as long as the kids who need to use the bathroom to actually pee have access to a safe bathroom. Vape all you want in the porta potty.

Agree... As much as I think kids vaping is a bad idea, there's only so much you can do. Mostly would want to ensure that kids can use the bathroom.