Over 50 Cars Broken Into in Woodley Park

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Anonymous wrote:Who is surprised by this?

The Council and Mayor are surprised. They think property crime passed to insurance is Monopoly Money. Literally, have they tallied the overall cost to DC residents from this rise and expressed ANY concern?

Just more profit gouging by large corporations. Has anyone looked into the executive's salaries and bonus packages?

https://www.wsj.com/finance/insurance-companies-profits-stock-ebae7fd1

Right. It is laughable to think that an increase of car jackings from a trivially small number to another trivially small number would result in everyone's premiums rising 42%, especially since in some car jacjings the automobile is recovered with modest or no damage.

You know, versus crashes.. crashes that occur at a far higher frequency.

Or perhaps how expensive cars and parts became due to supply issues, inflation, and a crunch on the used and new car markets that drove up blue book values.

But yeah, let's just all blame Charles Allen for this, since apparently he is singularly responsible for all of that. I bet someone here has footage of him sabatoging the Suez a few years ago and running a yemenese pirate ship to seize a bunch of semiconductors too?

Why are you defending carjackings? I'm truly interested in your thought process

My post was about insurance cost and the idiocy of some in this thread laying the increases in those at the feet of the Council because of car jackings. Car jackings are bad and fewer of them is desirable. But the volume of them is not significant enough to be a meaningful driver in insurance cost increases in light of the more pertinent and relevant factors.

From 2022 to 2023
Carjackings increased over 100%
Vehicle thefts increased 92%

A follow up for you.

In 2023 there were around 50 traffic fatalities, 6,000 traffic injuries, 1,000 carjackings and 7,000 vehicle thefts.

Are carjacking injuries/murders also considered traffic related for statistical gathering purposes?

Traffic accidents, as long as there are no injuries, are not reported to the police. You don't have enough data.

If they're not reported to the police then they're also not reported to insurance. But the bigger unkown is the amount of cars broken into. I personally know of dozens that weren't reported and almost everyone I know in the city has had a window busted in over the last two years.

Regardless, it's the vehicle thefts and break ins that are causing the insurance increases. Traffic accidents have been, despite the noise, relatively stable. It's the massive increase in thefts and property crimes that are causing insurance rates to rise.

However, 1000 carjackings is an eye popping number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The number of stolen cars is vastly higher.

Stolen wheels and rims are not tracked separately, people may or may not file a claim for those. Usually people don't file for auto glass to try to avoid an increase in premium.

Thank you for mentioning the auto glass. My spouse and I take a daily walk and the glass shards on streets and side walks have been a constant the past few years. Also, property theft from cars are a constant--like handbags of housecleaners or worker's tools from their vans. Of course it's on them for 'tempting the thieves'. What horrible people to rip off other people just trying to get through an honest day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is surprised by this?

The Council and Mayor are surprised. They think property crime passed to insurance is Monopoly Money. Literally, have they tallied the overall cost to DC residents from this rise and expressed ANY concern?

Just more profit gouging by large corporations. Has anyone looked into the executive's salaries and bonus packages?

https://www.wsj.com/finance/insurance-companies-profits-stock-ebae7fd1

Right. It is laughable to think that an increase of car jackings from a trivially small number to another trivially small number would result in everyone's premiums rising 42%, especially since in some car jacjings the automobile is recovered with modest or no damage.

You know, versus crashes.. crashes that occur at a far higher frequency.

Or perhaps how expensive cars and parts became due to supply issues, inflation, and a crunch on the used and new car markets that drove up blue book values.

But yeah, let's just all blame Charles Allen for this, since apparently he is singularly responsible for all of that. I bet someone here has footage of him sabatoging the Suez a few years ago and running a yemenese pirate ship to seize a bunch of semiconductors too?

OMG. Well said. It’s Charles Allen! Should we recall him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is surprised by this?

The Council and Mayor are surprised. They think property crime passed to insurance is Monopoly Money. Literally, have they tallied the overall cost to DC residents from this rise and expressed ANY concern?

Just more profit gouging by large corporations. Has anyone looked into the executive's salaries and bonus packages?

https://www.wsj.com/finance/insurance-companies-profits-stock-ebae7fd1

Right. It is laughable to think that an increase of car jackings from a trivially small number to another trivially small number would result in everyone's premiums rising 42%, especially since in some car jacjings the automobile is recovered with modest or no damage.

You know, versus crashes.. crashes that occur at a far higher frequency.

Or perhaps how expensive cars and parts became due to supply issues, inflation, and a crunch on the used and new car markets that drove up blue book values.

But yeah, let's just all blame Charles Allen for this, since apparently he is singularly responsible for all of that. I bet someone here has footage of him sabatoging the Suez a few years ago and running a yemenese pirate ship to seize a bunch of semiconductors too?

Why are you defending carjackings? I'm truly interested in your thought process

My post was about insurance cost and the idiocy of some in this thread laying the increases in those at the feet of the Council because of car jackings. Car jackings are bad and fewer of them is desirable. But the volume of them is not significant enough to be a meaningful driver in insurance cost increases in light of the more pertinent and relevant factors.

From 2022 to 2023
Carjackings increased over 100%
Vehicle thefts increased 92%

A follow up for you.

In 2023 there were around 50 traffic fatalities, 6,000 traffic injuries, 1,000 carjackings and 7,000 vehicle thefts.

Are carjacking injuries/murders also considered traffic related for statistical gathering purposes?

Traffic accidents, as long as there are no injuries, are not reported to the police. You don't have enough data.

If they're not reported to the police then they're also not reported to insurance. But the bigger unkown is the amount of cars broken into. I personally know of dozens that weren't reported and almost everyone I know in the city has had a window busted in over the last two years.

Regardless, it's the vehicle thefts and break ins that are causing the insurance increases. Traffic accidents have been, despite the noise, relatively stable. It's the massive increase in thefts and property crimes that are causing insurance rates to rise.

However, 1000 carjackings is an eye popping number.

https://os.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/police%20complaints/publication/attachments/MPD_accident_report_policy_rec_final.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The number of stolen cars is vastly higher.

Stolen wheels and rims are not tracked separately, people may or may not file a claim for those. Usually people don't file for auto glass to try to avoid an increase in premium.

Thank you for mentioning the auto glass. My spouse and I take a daily walk and the glass shards on streets and side walks have been a constant the past few years. Also, property theft from cars are a constant--like handbags of housecleaners or worker's tools from their vans. Of course it's on them for 'tempting the thieves'. What horrible people to rip off other people just trying to get through an honest day.

Gotta love the social justice "advocates." Crime is caused by "careless" hardworking people struggling to make a living. The criminal thugs are oppressed, misunderstood, deprived and blameless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is surprised by this?

The Council and Mayor are surprised. They think property crime passed to insurance is Monopoly Money. Literally, have they tallied the overall cost to DC residents from this rise and expressed ANY concern?

Just more profit gouging by large corporations. Has anyone looked into the executive's salaries and bonus packages?

https://www.wsj.com/finance/insurance-companies-profits-stock-ebae7fd1

Right. It is laughable to think that an increase of car jackings from a trivially small number to another trivially small number would result in everyone's premiums rising 42%, especially since in some car jacjings the automobile is recovered with modest or no damage.

You know, versus crashes.. crashes that occur at a far higher frequency.

Or perhaps how expensive cars and parts became due to supply issues, inflation, and a crunch on the used and new car markets that drove up blue book values.

But yeah, let's just all blame Charles Allen for this, since apparently he is singularly responsible for all of that. I bet someone here has footage of him sabatoging the Suez a few years ago and running a yemenese pirate ship to seize a bunch of semiconductors too?

Why are you defending carjackings? I'm truly interested in your thought process

My post was about insurance cost and the idiocy of some in this thread laying the increases in those at the feet of the Council because of car jackings. Car jackings are bad and fewer of them is desirable. But the volume of them is not significant enough to be a meaningful driver in insurance cost increases in light of the more pertinent and relevant factors.

From 2022 to 2023
Carjackings increased over 100%
Vehicle thefts increased 92%

A 100% increase in a terribly small number yet remains a terribly small number.

500 > 1,000 is not a terribly small number

Last I saw, in the District alone, there were about 500,000 registered vehicles. So 500 / 500,000 = 0.1%. Now, double that. Oh, its 0.2%. Which is still a terribly small number.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard it all now that someone is claiming 1000 carjackings in an area smaller than 70 square miles is not that many.

"trivially small" was the exact phrasing

This isn't Kansas. It's 70 square miles of city. You know, dense urban area and all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The number of stolen cars is vastly higher.

Stolen wheels and rims are not tracked separately, people may or may not file a claim for those. Usually people don't file for auto glass to try to avoid an increase in premium.

Thank you for mentioning the auto glass. My spouse and I take a daily walk and the glass shards on streets and side walks have been a constant the past few years. Also, property theft from cars are a constant--like handbags of housecleaners or worker's tools from their vans. Of course it's on them for 'tempting the thieves'. What horrible people to rip off other people just trying to get through an honest day.

Gotta love the social justice "advocates." Crime is caused by "careless" hardworking people struggling to make a living. The criminal thugs are oppressed, misunderstood, deprived and blameless.

My grandmother was a janitor. My grandpa worked in a factory. When I think of someone stealing a housekeeper's belongings from her car while she's inside cleaning a home (smashing in the car window too) it makes my head want to explode. We all know what it's like to do a hard day's work and have to deal with one...more....thing. don't know how Frumin, Allen, Nadeau, Janeese etc defend these incredibly malicious DC thieves .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is surprised by this?

The Council and Mayor are surprised. They think property crime passed to insurance is Monopoly Money. Literally, have they tallied the overall cost to DC residents from this rise and expressed ANY concern?

Just more profit gouging by large corporations. Has anyone looked into the executive's salaries and bonus packages?

https://www.wsj.com/finance/insurance-companies-profits-stock-ebae7fd1

Right. It is laughable to think that an increase of car jackings from a trivially small number to another trivially small number would result in everyone's premiums rising 42%, especially since in some car jacjings the automobile is recovered with modest or no damage.

You know, versus crashes.. crashes that occur at a far higher frequency.

Or perhaps how expensive cars and parts became due to supply issues, inflation, and a crunch on the used and new car markets that drove up blue book values.

But yeah, let's just all blame Charles Allen for this, since apparently he is singularly responsible for all of that. I bet someone here has footage of him sabatoging the Suez a few years ago and running a yemenese pirate ship to seize a bunch of semiconductors too?

Why are you defending carjackings? I'm truly interested in your thought process

My post was about insurance cost and the idiocy of some in this thread laying the increases in those at the feet of the Council because of car jackings. Car jackings are bad and fewer of them is desirable. But the volume of them is not significant enough to be a meaningful driver in insurance cost increases in light of the more pertinent and relevant factors.

From 2022 to 2023
Carjackings increased over 100%
Vehicle thefts increased 92%

A 100% increase in a terribly small number yet remains a terribly small number.

500 > 1,000 is not a terribly small number

Last I saw, in the District alone, there were about 500,000 registered vehicles. So 500 / 500,000 = 0.1%. Now, double that. Oh, its 0.2%. Which is still a terribly small number.

We're talking about carjacking not the odds of stepping in dog poop. But, good to know that rape, major traffic accidents, child abuse, etc are all trivially non-existent in this world view.

1,000 car jackings in a year is a shocking statistic no matter how much you try and minimize it.