I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed

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Anonymous wrote:The people who keep passing laws and trying to ban guns don't seem to know much about the things they are trying to ban. I love the people who say the AR in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle" (news flash, it stands for Armalite Rifle as in the company that developed it in the 50's) MD bans the M1-A1 in 308 but not the SCAR-20 in 308? The SCAR-20 is a modern battle rifle, the M1-A1 was used in Korea and Viet Nam as the M-14.

And none of them belong in the home. They are weapons of war, came as tanks and hydrogen bombs.

Right, because there is zero difference between a gun and a nuclear bomb.

Seriously, come up with some new schtick, because I can’t even…..

Come back when you shoot your kid coming in late.

That's one thing that will never happen in my house.

Yes, because you will be tied up at gun point while your house is being robbed. Shoot your kid - what a dbag you are. Great argument argument. I’m getting my CCW after reading your post.

Spite gun purchases. Do you always buy deadly weapons when you get emotional?

Reminds me of when gun owners go on a shopping spree right after a mass shooting. How many guns were sold after Sandy Hook or Vegas?

It is fascinating, this legend in their own mind thinking. They fancy themselves being good guys with a gun. (Spoiler: They are not).

I’m definitely not a legend in my own mind. I’m 5’3” and weigh 118 lbs and I don’t want to be raped, strangled or maybe beaten to death by a man who could be twice my size and 3 or 4 times stronger than me. I don’t “fancy myself” being able to physically resist or stop someone so much larger and stronger than me.

Serious question (assuming you’re also female) - do you think you could stop a man from attacking you? I can’t. If you think you can, what makes you believe that? Why are you so much more capable than I am?

Do you think you can stop a man from taking your gun from you and using it on you?

I actually do believe I can stop a man from taking my gun and using it on me. And in the unlikely event he’s able to get possession of my gun after being shot perhaps a dozen times, it will be empty by then. I suppose he might try and pistol whip me with it, but I suspect he’ll be too busy exsanguinating by that point.

So… you ARE a legend in your own mind. I mean, you clearly have an active fantasy life.

Your ad hominem personal attack-snark is getting tiresome. If all you have to contribute to this thread is the belittling of others, I invite you to leave.

Or what? You’re going to shoot me?

You have mental issues. A gun isn’t going to fix that.

It is quite apparent to anyone following your contributions over the last 17 pages where the mental issues reside.

Personally, I’d like you to continue posting stuff like this - and other similarly veiled threats - because it’s doing a fantastic job of illustrating your character. You’re representing anti-gun people fabulously as far as I’m concerned.


Carry on.

See, toots, now you are just embarrassing yourself and conflating posters. I didn’t post at all until about page 12 or 13.

It’s so painfully obvious you are not a responsible gun owner. You are a delusional one. Responsible gun owners don’t take to forums to prattle on the way you have with weird bravado and pronouncements about how you would use your gun in these fantasy scenarios that clearly play in your mind every day. You sound like a 7 year-old boy who dreams of being a soldier or something.

People like you, who was so performative about it all and so strident, tend to piss their pants in a live fire situation. Been there, seen that, it ended tragically.

Ok Jan.

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Anonymous wrote:And fear of criminal assault is anything but irrational. Just ask the lady who was beaten and strangled on the roof of her building recently. Oh, that’s right, you can’t.

The PP’s fear of common sense laws is irrational.

Not nearly so irrational as pretending violent criminals aren’t preying on people every day, and it’s just a matter of time until it’s your turn. I would rather face that sort of situation armed.

You are free to choose to face it unarmed. That’s your choice. But you don’t get to choose for me, too.

I don't have an issue with people having guns. I have an issue with people not pushing for better safety measures that will reduce gun violence.

As a gun owner I support laws that would actually contribute to reducing gun violence - prosecution of EVERY straw purchase, mandatory minimum sentences for drug dealing, robberies, sexual assaults or carjackings committed with a gun, making drive-by shootings punishable by life in prison or the death penalty if an innocent bystander is killed. That would be a good start.

I do not support most of the cliched “common sense” gun control measures often bandied about here because those laws are mostly aimed at punishing people like me by greatly restricting the types of guns I’d be permitted to own, rather than deterring actual crime. There’s nothing common sense about that, unless your goal is just eliminating gun ownership on an installment basis.

None of these take away your rights or restrict the types of guns you'd be permitted to own:
https://www.bradyunited.org/the-brady-plan
https://www.bradyunited.org/legislation/code-of-conduct-act

What are your issues with these specific proposals?

I’m fine with Points 1 and 2…. It immediately goes off the rails after that at Point 3, banning “assault weapons” and standard sized magazines. Without even getting into a debate about what the exact definition of an “assault weapon” is, their proposal would outlaw about 80% of all rifles. So clearly, it would drastically restrict the types of guns a person could own.


So, either you’re an outright liar, since you KNOW this proposal would ban at least 80% of rifles in the US, OR, you never even read it for yourself.


Which are you? Liar, or woefully uninformed?

Glad to hear on 1 and 2.

I admit that I didn't read that one fully - I assumed it was just high capacity magazines, which shouldn't affect regular gun owners. It's been a while since I last referred to the Brady website and it looks like it's changed a bit. My bad.

How about 4-12?

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Anonymous wrote:The people who keep passing laws and trying to ban guns don't seem to know much about the things they are trying to ban. I love the people who say the AR in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle" (news flash, it stands for Armalite Rifle as in the company that developed it in the 50's) MD bans the M1-A1 in 308 but not the SCAR-20 in 308? The SCAR-20 is a modern battle rifle, the M1-A1 was used in Korea and Viet Nam as the M-14.

And none of them belong in the home. They are weapons of war, came as tanks and hydrogen bombs.

Right, because there is zero difference between a gun and a nuclear bomb.

Seriously, come up with some new schtick, because I can’t even…..

Come back when you shoot your kid coming in late.

That's one thing that will never happen in my house.

Yes, because you will be tied up at gun point while your house is being robbed. Shoot your kid - what a dbag you are. Great argument argument. I’m getting my CCW after reading your post.

Spite gun purchases. Do you always buy deadly weapons when you get emotional?

Reminds me of when gun owners go on a shopping spree right after a mass shooting. How many guns were sold after Sandy Hook or Vegas?

It is fascinating, this legend in their own mind thinking. They fancy themselves being good guys with a gun. (Spoiler: They are not).

I’m definitely not a legend in my own mind. I’m 5’3” and weigh 118 lbs and I don’t want to be raped, strangled or maybe beaten to death by a man who could be twice my size and 3 or 4 times stronger than me. I don’t “fancy myself” being able to physically resist or stop someone so much larger and stronger than me.

Serious question (assuming you’re also female) - do you think you could stop a man from attacking you? I can’t. If you think you can, what makes you believe that? Why are you so much more capable than I am?

Do you think you can stop a man from taking your gun from you and using it on you?

I actually do believe I can stop a man from taking my gun and using it on me. And in the unlikely event he’s able to get possession of my gun after being shot perhaps a dozen times, it will be empty by then. I suppose he might try and pistol whip me with it, but I suspect he’ll be too busy exsanguinating by that point.

Well, let's hope you don't mistakenly shoot someone because you were afraid they were coming for you and you had a gun, but actually they were not coming for you. And let's also hope, if someone does come for you and you have your gun, that they don't take your gun from you and use it on you. And let's also hope that your gun isn't used by you or a loved one in an act of anger or despair. It's quite a needle to have to thread. Which is why I feel safer not having a gun. I don't like those odds.

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So you don’t buy a gun. OP buys a gun. Now everyone is happy. Seems simple enough.

Everyone is not happy, though, because OP's gun endangers all of us, including those of us without guns.

As it stands, the criminals in this city know that most of us are sitting ducks.

We have no stop and frisk and don't even pull over cars without license plates, so they can carry illegal and rob with impunity. There is ZERO effort to stop this from city leadership.

More people like OP will make the criminals think twice before they stick a gun in your face.

Prevalence of guns is very high in the hood compared to NW. Yet chance of armed robbery is also much higher in the hood. If criminals targeted those without guns then they would be mugging people in NW more than EoTR.

Guess you’re wrong. It sure doesn’t seem like gun fetishists think things through very well.

They’re mugging people all over the city. Keep your head up your a$$ and you’ll continue to miss that this is happening

Did you miss the point that more of this crime happens in bad areas EoTR? Even with crime spreading to “nice” areas, the VAST majority of it happens in bad neighborhoods. It’s not even close.

Where the “bad” guys live and probably know who they are robbing (and who does and does not have guns) or who they are getting into altercations with (which are likely about things other than robberies) where whether they have guns doesn’t matter.

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DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

The Swiss have a lot of laws require guns and ownership. Many of the people in the US would not qualify to own or have gun.

Generally speaking, guns are legal in Switzerland, but only with the proper licencing, permits and use restrictions. If you wish to carry your weapon in public places, you need to obtain a permit, which is only issued if you can show a proper need, for example, those working in the Swiss police, private security or defence. You also need to pass an exam to demonstrate your understanding of firearms.

Unlike in some other European countries, you do not need a permit to transport weapons within Switzerland. However, it is a requirement under Swiss law to make sure that while transporting weapons there is no ammunition inside the firearms. In order to bring firearms from another country into Switzerland, you need to obtain an import permit. It is important to note that the European Weapons Pass is not accepted as an import permit.

What kind of guns are allowed in Switzerland?
In Switzerland, a number of different objects are classed as weapons. This means that all firearms, daggers, knives, self-defence sprays, as well as CO2 guns, imitation firearms, blank cartridges and airsoft guns are classed as weapons.

Under Swiss law, weapons are categorised into three different groups: weapons that must be declared, weapons for which a permit is required, and illegal weapons.

For weapons that need to be declared, such as manual repetition rifles for hunting, airsoft guns, blank cartridge guns and paintball guns, you need to obtain a written contract explaining where you purchased the firearm. Non-Swiss nationals who do not possess a C-residence permit (Settlement) will also need to apply for a weapon acquisition permit at their local cantonal weapons office.

For weapons such as pistols, revolvers and semi-automatic rifles with a small magazine, a weapons acquisition permit is required. You can apply for a weapons acquisition permit and other firearms permits from your cantonal weapons office.

Other larger or more dangerous weapons such as semi-automatic firearms with a large magazine, machine guns, electric shock devices, daggers, automatic blades, butterfly knives and knuckledusters are illegal in Switzerland, though can be obtained in extreme circumstances by applying for an exemption at a cantonal weapons authority.

https://www.iamexpat.ch/expat-info/swiss-expat-news/gun-laws-switzerland#:~:text=Swiss%20gun%20laws%20require%20most,threat%20to%20themselves%20or%20others.

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Another murder in NW last night, FYI. Privilege won’t protect every one.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

It's just a really different culture there so not comparable. They have a much higher % of military participation/training (mandatory conscription for men). They treat weapons seriously, not some GI Joe cosplay fetish. They also have a different approach towards education/vocation and lower poverty.

Also, it's harder to get a weapon:
"Not only are you supposed to be criminal record-free in order to get a gun, but you also must be deemed unlikely to cause harm to other Swiss. Local police who have doubts about a prospective gun owner’s well-being (or even those who are assured of the same but worry nonetheless) may and sometimes do ask local psychiatrists or friends about an applicant’s mental state or alcohol and drug use.

Also, that gun license, even when approved, is only valid for a maximum of nine months, and applicants are allowed only one weapon. Period."
https://impakter.com/why-gun-ownership-switzerland-not-same-us/

And, in 2019, the Swiss voted to adopt the new EU gun control laws restricting auto/semiautomatic weapons, including:
-A ban on weapons capable of rapidly firing multiple rounds
-Automatic and semi-automatic weapons to either be banned or heavily restricted
-Each owner of such a weapon, and the weapon itself, to be known to police across Europe
-All essential weapon components to be clearly labelled and registered electronically

You should really push for the US to have the same level of restrictions and regulations as the Swiss.

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Challenge for CCW folks in this area is hardcore anti-gunners outnumber those who choose to exercise their rights is 5 or more to 1.

Most won’t even be willing to have a discussion or recognize that those individuals who are willing to follow the rules to obtain their concealed carry permit are no threat to the general public and blend right into the crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:Challenge for CCW folks in this area is hardcore anti-gunners outnumber those who choose to exercise their rights is 5 or more to 1.

Most won’t even be willing to have a discussion or recognize that those individuals who are willing to follow the rules to obtain their concealed carry permit are no threat to the general public and blend right into the crowd.

Unless it’s that Love Warrior guy - he’s totally allowed to have as many guns as he wants!

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I got my first gun when i moved to Montgomery County in 2005. I could not believe the number of low-lifes and violence here.

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Anonymous wrote:The people who keep passing laws and trying to ban guns don't seem to know much about the things they are trying to ban. I love the people who say the AR in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle" (news flash, it stands for Armalite Rifle as in the company that developed it in the 50's) MD bans the M1-A1 in 308 but not the SCAR-20 in 308? The SCAR-20 is a modern battle rifle, the M1-A1 was used in Korea and Viet Nam as the M-14.

And none of them belong in the home. They are weapons of war, came as tanks and hydrogen bombs.

Right, because there is zero difference between a gun and a nuclear bomb.

Seriously, come up with some new schtick, because I can’t even…..

Come back when you shoot your kid coming in late.

That's one thing that will never happen in my house.

Yes, because you will be tied up at gun point while your house is being robbed. Shoot your kid - what a dbag you are. Great argument argument. I’m getting my CCW after reading your post.

Spite gun purchases. Do you always buy deadly weapons when you get emotional?

Reminds me of when gun owners go on a shopping spree right after a mass shooting. How many guns were sold after Sandy Hook or Vegas?

It is fascinating, this legend in their own mind thinking. They fancy themselves being good guys with a gun. (Spoiler: They are not).

I’m definitely not a legend in my own mind. I’m 5’3” and weigh 118 lbs and I don’t want to be raped, strangled or maybe beaten to death by a man who could be twice my size and 3 or 4 times stronger than me. I don’t “fancy myself” being able to physically resist or stop someone so much larger and stronger than me.

Serious question (assuming you’re also female) - do you think you could stop a man from attacking you? I can’t. If you think you can, what makes you believe that? Why are you so much more capable than I am?

Do you think you can stop a man from taking your gun from you and using it on you?

I actually do believe I can stop a man from taking my gun and using it on me. And in the unlikely event he’s able to get possession of my gun after being shot perhaps a dozen times, it will be empty by then. I suppose he might try and pistol whip me with it, but I suspect he’ll be too busy exsanguinating by that point.

So… you ARE a legend in your own mind. I mean, you clearly have an active fantasy life.

Your ad hominem personal attack-snark is getting tiresome. If all you have to contribute to this thread is the belittling of others, I invite you to leave.

Or what? You’re going to shoot me?

You have mental issues. A gun isn’t going to fix that.

It is quite apparent to anyone following your contributions over the last 17 pages where the mental issues reside.

Personally, I’d like you to continue posting stuff like this - and other similarly veiled threats - because it’s doing a fantastic job of illustrating your character. You’re representing anti-gun people fabulously as far as I’m concerned.


Carry on.

See, toots, now you are just embarrassing yourself and conflating posters. I didn’t post at all until about page 12 or 13.

It’s so painfully obvious you are not a responsible gun owner. You are a delusional one. Responsible gun owners don’t take to forums to prattle on the way you have with weird bravado and pronouncements about how you would use your gun in these fantasy scenarios that clearly play in your mind every day. You sound like a 7 year-old boy who dreams of being a soldier or something.

People like you, who was so performative about it all and so strident, tend to piss their pants in a live fire situation. Been there, seen that, it ended tragically.

Ok Jan.

Sorry, what does Jan mean?

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Anonymous wrote:The people who keep passing laws and trying to ban guns don't seem to know much about the things they are trying to ban. I love the people who say the AR in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle" (news flash, it stands for Armalite Rifle as in the company that developed it in the 50's) MD bans the M1-A1 in 308 but not the SCAR-20 in 308? The SCAR-20 is a modern battle rifle, the M1-A1 was used in Korea and Viet Nam as the M-14.

And none of them belong in the home. They are weapons of war, came as tanks and hydrogen bombs.

Right, because there is zero difference between a gun and a nuclear bomb.

Seriously, come up with some new schtick, because I can’t even…..

Come back when you shoot your kid coming in late.

That's one thing that will never happen in my house.

Yes, because you will be tied up at gun point while your house is being robbed. Shoot your kid - what a dbag you are. Great argument argument. I’m getting my CCW after reading your post.

Spite gun purchases. Do you always buy deadly weapons when you get emotional?

Reminds me of when gun owners go on a shopping spree right after a mass shooting. How many guns were sold after Sandy Hook or Vegas?

It is fascinating, this legend in their own mind thinking. They fancy themselves being good guys with a gun. (Spoiler: They are not).

I’m definitely not a legend in my own mind. I’m 5’3” and weigh 118 lbs and I don’t want to be raped, strangled or maybe beaten to death by a man who could be twice my size and 3 or 4 times stronger than me. I don’t “fancy myself” being able to physically resist or stop someone so much larger and stronger than me.

Serious question (assuming you’re also female) - do you think you could stop a man from attacking you? I can’t. If you think you can, what makes you believe that? Why are you so much more capable than I am?

Do you think you can stop a man from taking your gun from you and using it on you?

I actually do believe I can stop a man from taking my gun and using it on me. And in the unlikely event he’s able to get possession of my gun after being shot perhaps a dozen times, it will be empty by then. I suppose he might try and pistol whip me with it, but I suspect he’ll be too busy exsanguinating by that point.

So… you ARE a legend in your own mind. I mean, you clearly have an active fantasy life.

Your ad hominem personal attack-snark is getting tiresome. If all you have to contribute to this thread is the belittling of others, I invite you to leave.

Or what? You’re going to shoot me?

You have mental issues. A gun isn’t going to fix that.

It is quite apparent to anyone following your contributions over the last 17 pages where the mental issues reside.

Personally, I’d like you to continue posting stuff like this - and other similarly veiled threats - because it’s doing a fantastic job of illustrating your character. You’re representing anti-gun people fabulously as far as I’m concerned.


Carry on.

See, toots, now you are just embarrassing yourself and conflating posters. I didn’t post at all until about page 12 or 13.

It’s so painfully obvious you are not a responsible gun owner. You are a delusional one. Responsible gun owners don’t take to forums to prattle on the way you have with weird bravado and pronouncements about how you would use your gun in these fantasy scenarios that clearly play in your mind every day. You sound like a 7 year-old boy who dreams of being a soldier or something.

People like you, who was so performative about it all and so strident, tend to piss their pants in a live fire situation. Been there, seen that, it ended tragically.

Ok Jan.

Sorry, what does Jan mean?

It means the PP is old AF.

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Anonymous wrote:The people who keep passing laws and trying to ban guns don't seem to know much about the things they are trying to ban. I love the people who say the AR in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle" (news flash, it stands for Armalite Rifle as in the company that developed it in the 50's) MD bans the M1-A1 in 308 but not the SCAR-20 in 308? The SCAR-20 is a modern battle rifle, the M1-A1 was used in Korea and Viet Nam as the M-14.

And none of them belong in the home. They are weapons of war, came as tanks and hydrogen bombs.

Right, because there is zero difference between a gun and a nuclear bomb.

Seriously, come up with some new schtick, because I can’t even…..

Come back when you shoot your kid coming in late.

That's one thing that will never happen in my house.

Yes, because you will be tied up at gun point while your house is being robbed. Shoot your kid - what a dbag you are. Great argument argument. I’m getting my CCW after reading your post.

Spite gun purchases. Do you always buy deadly weapons when you get emotional?

Reminds me of when gun owners go on a shopping spree right after a mass shooting. How many guns were sold after Sandy Hook or Vegas?

It is fascinating, this legend in their own mind thinking. They fancy themselves being good guys with a gun. (Spoiler: They are not).

I’m definitely not a legend in my own mind. I’m 5’3” and weigh 118 lbs and I don’t want to be raped, strangled or maybe beaten to death by a man who could be twice my size and 3 or 4 times stronger than me. I don’t “fancy myself” being able to physically resist or stop someone so much larger and stronger than me.

Serious question (assuming you’re also female) - do you think you could stop a man from attacking you? I can’t. If you think you can, what makes you believe that? Why are you so much more capable than I am?

And yet you think you will have time and presence of mind to pull out your gun and shoot him. Good luck with that.

It's amazing how many Americans think they can become professional gunslingers. Are they practicing at the level that Olympic shooters do? But even more than that, are they practicing being in all sorts of unexpected situations so that they are trained well enough to react quickly and accurately to a sudden attack? Heck, even professional police and soldiers have trouble hitting the right perpetrator in a dangerous situation. Why do weekend warriors think they will be able to prevent an attack better than trained police?

You grossly overestimate the level of training the average street cop or even grunt soldier has in shooting firearms, and the amount of training and practice you need to become proficient. Of course you aren't going to be at the level of someone in a special unit like a police SWAT team or special forces (who train at a high frequency due to the likelihood of seeing some sort of combat). We are talking about safely handling a pistol, drawing, and firing at a target within self defense distance of 0-7 yards, being aware of bystanders and knowing the laws. It DOES take training to become proficient in defending yourself with a handgun, but nothing that is outside the reach of a civilian with the will to defend themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

It's just a really different culture there so not comparable. They have a much higher % of military participation/training (mandatory conscription for men). They treat weapons seriously, not some GI Joe cosplay fetish. They also have a different approach towards education/vocation and lower poverty.

Also, it's harder to get a weapon:
"Not only are you supposed to be criminal record-free in order to get a gun, but you also must be deemed unlikely to cause harm to other Swiss. Local police who have doubts about a prospective gun owner’s well-being (or even those who are assured of the same but worry nonetheless) may and sometimes do ask local psychiatrists or friends about an applicant’s mental state or alcohol and drug use.

Also, that gun license, even when approved, is only valid for a maximum of nine months, and applicants are allowed only one weapon. Period."
https://impakter.com/why-gun-ownership-switzerland-not-same-us/

And, in 2019, the Swiss voted to adopt the new EU gun control laws restricting auto/semiautomatic weapons, including:
-A ban on weapons capable of rapidly firing multiple rounds
-Automatic and semi-automatic weapons to either be banned or heavily restricted
-Each owner of such a weapon, and the weapon itself, to be known to police across Europe
-All essential weapon components to be clearly labelled and registered electronically

You should really push for the US to have the same level of restrictions and regulations as the Swiss.

I'm a gun owner and would definitely be in favor of some of the European style restrictions. In Czechia you need to apply for a gun permit which is a fairly involved process with significant psych screening and competency tests, however it is "shall issue" so they can't just deny you because they feel like it, although this is granted by a law which could easily be repealed at any time so there's no constitutional protection. I believe we should have a constitutionally protected "shall issue" process for obtaining a firearm that is much more involved than the current requirement of doing an instant background check in a crime database. This would protect everyone's right to own a gun but at the same time do much more to ensure bad people can't get guns. Practically it might not do much good because there are a ludicruous amount of firearms already in circulation, this is the main issue.

I don't have any problem with people owning AR15's with 30 round magazines, I just don't want psychos to be able to get them as easily.