Protest at Mundo on P street

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Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.

Oyster has a mile long wait list.

Bancroft is nowhere near my house.

Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.

But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.

Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.

In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.

The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.

What does this have to do with Mundo?

Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"

To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”

Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.

It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.

What about the children of teachers and staff who live outside the District and need their child to be at Mundo because they can’t get home in time to pick their kid up and don’t have a partner or village or resources to pay for aftercare etc.? For those people Mundo is not choice and their kids deserve an education too.

I'm sorry, but kids who live outside the District should not be attending DC public schools, which are funded by DC tax payers.

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Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.

Oyster has a mile long wait list.

Bancroft is nowhere near my house.

Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.

But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.

Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.

In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.

The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.

What does this have to do with Mundo?

Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"

To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”

Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.

It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.

What about the children of teachers and staff who live outside the District and need their child to be at Mundo because they can’t get home in time to pick their kid up and don’t have a partner or village or resources to pay for aftercare etc.? For those people Mundo is not choice and their kids deserve an education too.

Oh c'mon... Maybe Mundo should pay a normal teacher's salary so they can afford aftercare. Aftercare is readily available on a sliding scale so I don't buy this at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.

Oyster has a mile long wait list.

Bancroft is nowhere near my house.

Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.

But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.

Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.

In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.

The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.

What does this have to do with Mundo?

Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"

To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”

Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.

It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.

What about the children of teachers and staff who live outside the District and need their child to be at Mundo because they can’t get home in time to pick their kid up and don’t have a partner or village or resources to pay for aftercare etc.? For those people Mundo is not choice and their kids deserve an education too.

Is this really happening???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.

Oyster has a mile long wait list.

Bancroft is nowhere near my house.

Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.

But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.

Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.

In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.

The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.

What does this have to do with Mundo?

Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"

To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”

Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.

It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.

What about the children of teachers and staff who live outside the District and need their child to be at Mundo because they can’t get home in time to pick their kid up and don’t have a partner or village or resources to pay for aftercare etc.? For those people Mundo is not choice and their kids deserve an education too.

Is this really happening???

Highly unlikely. If they live outside of the District, they have to pay tuition but that's only if there are no DC resident children waitlisted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.

Oyster has a mile long wait list.

Bancroft is nowhere near my house.

Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.

But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.

Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.

In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.

The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.

What does this have to do with Mundo?

Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"

To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”

Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.

It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.

What about the children of teachers and staff who live outside the District and need their child to be at Mundo because they can’t get home in time to pick their kid up and don’t have a partner or village or resources to pay for aftercare etc.? For those people Mundo is not choice and their kids deserve an education too.

Is this really happening???

Highly unlikely. If they live outside of the District, they have to pay tuition but that's only if there are no DC resident children waitlisted.

Since Mundo clears its waitlist in the upper grades, it totally could happen, if anyone wanted to pay tuition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.

Oyster has a mile long wait list.

Bancroft is nowhere near my house.

Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.

But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.

Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.

In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.

The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.

What does this have to do with Mundo?

Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"

To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”

Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.

It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.

What about the children of teachers and staff who live outside the District and need their child to be at Mundo because they can’t get home in time to pick their kid up and don’t have a partner or village or resources to pay for aftercare etc.? For those people Mundo is not choice and their kids deserve an education too.

I'm sorry, but kids who live outside the District should not be attending DC public schools, which are funded by DC tax payers.

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This argument is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.

Oyster has a mile long wait list.

Bancroft is nowhere near my house.

Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.

But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.

Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.

In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.

The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.

What does this have to do with Mundo?

Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"

To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”

Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.

It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.

What about the children of teachers and staff who live outside the District and need their child to be at Mundo because they can’t get home in time to pick their kid up and don’t have a partner or village or resources to pay for aftercare etc.? For those people Mundo is not choice and their kids deserve an education too.

Is this really happening???

Highly unlikely. If they live outside of the District, they have to pay tuition but that's only if there are no DC resident children waitlisted.

Since Mundo clears its waitlist in the upper grades, it totally could happen, if anyone wanted to pay tuition.

If they can’t afford after care in MD, you think they can afford $12-13k in OOS tuition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...

No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?

Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.

I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.

Look, I think the administration of MV is a sh*t show. But what does the bolded mean? How do you define "low performance"? Dumb take.

Under DC law, the PCSB is to review each school at least every five years. The PCSB gives ratings and ultimately schools with low performance can be closed. They are willing to do PIPs and extensions (for far too many years) but ultimately they do have to shut down failing schools. The rating system has been on hiatus during COVID, but is being re-designed and will return soon. I predict MV will not impress anyone, but will not be bad enough to be closed. Yet.

The other way schools fail is losing enrollment and becoming financially non-viable. That's also a possibility in the coming years if MV doesn't get itself sorted out.

If schools like Shining Stars are still open than no way MV is closed.

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Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...

No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?

Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.

I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.

Look, I think the administration of MV is a sh*t show. But what does the bolded mean? How do you define "low performance"? Dumb take.

Under DC law, the PCSB is to review each school at least every five years. The PCSB gives ratings and ultimately schools with low performance can be closed. They are willing to do PIPs and extensions (for far too many years) but ultimately they do have to shut down failing schools. The rating system has been on hiatus during COVID, but is being re-designed and will return soon. I predict MV will not impress anyone, but will not be bad enough to be closed. Yet.

The other way schools fail is losing enrollment and becoming financially non-viable. That's also a possibility in the coming years if MV doesn't get itself sorted out.

If schools like Shining Stars are still open than no way MV is closed.

You can see the review schedule here: https://dcpcsb.org/charter-reviews-and-renewals SSMA and MV are both up for 15-year review in 2025-26. I do not think they will be closed, but I would like to see them get some conditions. Of course, the PCSB is usually really, really lenient and lets schools flail for a long time before actually closing them. But sometimes they'll apply conditions or require a plan of improvement. I think the question for both SSMA and MV is how can they stop their attrition, and should they accept that they simply cannot operate a full-scale upper grades program?

The 24-25 review cycle also contains some marginal schools. It will be interesting to see.

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Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...

No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?

Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.

I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.

Look, I think the administration of MV is a sh*t show. But what does the bolded mean? How do you define "low performance"? Dumb take.

Under DC law, the PCSB is to review each school at least every five years. The PCSB gives ratings and ultimately schools with low performance can be closed. They are willing to do PIPs and extensions (for far too many years) but ultimately they do have to shut down failing schools. The rating system has been on hiatus during COVID, but is being re-designed and will return soon. I predict MV will not impress anyone, but will not be bad enough to be closed. Yet.

The other way schools fail is losing enrollment and becoming financially non-viable. That's also a possibility in the coming years if MV doesn't get itself sorted out.

If schools like Shining Stars are still open than no way MV is closed.

You can see the review schedule here: https://dcpcsb.org/charter-reviews-and-renewals SSMA and MV are both up for 15-year review in 2025-26. I do not think they will be closed, but I would like to see them get some conditions. Of course, the PCSB is usually really, really lenient and lets schools flail for a long time before actually closing them. But sometimes they'll apply conditions or require a plan of improvement. I think the question for both SSMA and MV is how can they stop their attrition, and should they accept that they simply cannot operate a full-scale upper grades program?

The 24-25 review cycle also contains some marginal schools. It will be interesting to see.

Has PCSB shut down ANY charters? It just seems unlikely. Please prove me wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...

No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?

Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.

I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.

Look, I think the administration of MV is a sh*t show. But what does the bolded mean? How do you define "low performance"? Dumb take.

Under DC law, the PCSB is to review each school at least every five years. The PCSB gives ratings and ultimately schools with low performance can be closed. They are willing to do PIPs and extensions (for far too many years) but ultimately they do have to shut down failing schools. The rating system has been on hiatus during COVID, but is being re-designed and will return soon. I predict MV will not impress anyone, but will not be bad enough to be closed. Yet.

The other way schools fail is losing enrollment and becoming financially non-viable. That's also a possibility in the coming years if MV doesn't get itself sorted out.

If schools like Shining Stars are still open than no way MV is closed.

You can see the review schedule here: https://dcpcsb.org/charter-reviews-and-renewals SSMA and MV are both up for 15-year review in 2025-26. I do not think they will be closed, but I would like to see them get some conditions. Of course, the PCSB is usually really, really lenient and lets schools flail for a long time before actually closing them. But sometimes they'll apply conditions or require a plan of improvement. I think the question for both SSMA and MV is how can they stop their attrition, and should they accept that they simply cannot operate a full-scale upper grades program?

The 24-25 review cycle also contains some marginal schools. It will be interesting to see.

Has PCSB shut down ANY charters? It just seems unlikely. Please prove me wrong.

What a weird question. Of course they have. It doesn't happen very often because sometimes schools see it coming and voluntarily fold or merge with another school.

This list is from 2019, but just for example, they've closed or accepted charter relinquishment from part of Cesar Chavez, National Collegiate Prep, Seed Middle School, City Arts & Prep, Democracy Prep, and many others.

https://dcpcsb.egnyte.com/dl/sK1pkdcndM

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Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...

No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?

Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.

I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.

Look, I think the administration of MV is a sh*t show. But what does the bolded mean? How do you define "low performance"? Dumb take.

Under DC law, the PCSB is to review each school at least every five years. The PCSB gives ratings and ultimately schools with low performance can be closed. They are willing to do PIPs and extensions (for far too many years) but ultimately they do have to shut down failing schools. The rating system has been on hiatus during COVID, but is being re-designed and will return soon. I predict MV will not impress anyone, but will not be bad enough to be closed. Yet.

The other way schools fail is losing enrollment and becoming financially non-viable. That's also a possibility in the coming years if MV doesn't get itself sorted out.

If schools like Shining Stars are still open than no way MV is closed.

You can see the review schedule here: https://dcpcsb.org/charter-reviews-and-renewals SSMA and MV are both up for 15-year review in 2025-26. I do not think they will be closed, but I would like to see them get some conditions. Of course, the PCSB is usually really, really lenient and lets schools flail for a long time before actually closing them. But sometimes they'll apply conditions or require a plan of improvement. I think the question for both SSMA and MV is how can they stop their attrition, and should they accept that they simply cannot operate a full-scale upper grades program?

The 24-25 review cycle also contains some marginal schools. It will be interesting to see.

Has PCSB shut down ANY charters? It just seems unlikely. Please prove me wrong.

What a weird question. Of course they have. It doesn't happen very often because sometimes schools see it coming and voluntarily fold or merge with another school.

This list is from 2019, but just for example, they've closed or accepted charter relinquishment from part of Cesar Chavez, National Collegiate Prep, Seed Middle School, City Arts & Prep, Democracy Prep, and many others.

https://dcpcsb.egnyte.com/dl/sK1pkdcndM

Chavez, 75% at-risk, 96% Black
National Collegiate, 74% at-risk, 99% Black
Seed Middle, 62% at-risk, 98% Black
Democracy Prep, 76% at-risk, 98% Black

Mundo Verde, 12% at-risk, 18% Black

See the difference? PCSB isn't touching this school.

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Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...

No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?

Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.

I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.

Look, I think the administration of MV is a sh*t show. But what does the bolded mean? How do you define "low performance"? Dumb take.

Under DC law, the PCSB is to review each school at least every five years. The PCSB gives ratings and ultimately schools with low performance can be closed. They are willing to do PIPs and extensions (for far too many years) but ultimately they do have to shut down failing schools. The rating system has been on hiatus during COVID, but is being re-designed and will return soon. I predict MV will not impress anyone, but will not be bad enough to be closed. Yet.

The other way schools fail is losing enrollment and becoming financially non-viable. That's also a possibility in the coming years if MV doesn't get itself sorted out.

If schools like Shining Stars are still open than no way MV is closed.

You can see the review schedule here: https://dcpcsb.org/charter-reviews-and-renewals SSMA and MV are both up for 15-year review in 2025-26. I do not think they will be closed, but I would like to see them get some conditions. Of course, the PCSB is usually really, really lenient and lets schools flail for a long time before actually closing them. But sometimes they'll apply conditions or require a plan of improvement. I think the question for both SSMA and MV is how can they stop their attrition, and should they accept that they simply cannot operate a full-scale upper grades program?

The 24-25 review cycle also contains some marginal schools. It will be interesting to see.

Has PCSB shut down ANY charters? It just seems unlikely. Please prove me wrong.

What a weird question. Of course they have. It doesn't happen very often because sometimes schools see it coming and voluntarily fold or merge with another school.

This list is from 2019, but just for example, they've closed or accepted charter relinquishment from part of Cesar Chavez, National Collegiate Prep, Seed Middle School, City Arts & Prep, Democracy Prep, and many others.

https://dcpcsb.egnyte.com/dl/sK1pkdcndM

Chavez, 75% at-risk, 96% Black
National Collegiate, 74% at-risk, 99% Black
Seed Middle, 62% at-risk, 98% Black
Democracy Prep, 76% at-risk, 98% Black

Mundo Verde, 12% at-risk, 18% Black

See the difference? PCSB isn't touching this school.

Mundo also doesn't have anywhere near low enough test scores, nor does it have evidence of financial fraud or nonviability. And it probably won't get to that point, because parents will supplement as best they can, and the PCSB loves to bend the rules and let all kinds of awful things slide. But the possibility for an embarrassing hearing or being put on a PIP is definitely there, for MV and SSMA both.

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I live in PG but am Old DC going back generations, so I’ll send my kids to any damn DC I like.

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Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...

No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?

Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.

I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.

Look, I think the administration of MV is a sh*t show. But what does the bolded mean? How do you define "low performance"? Dumb take.

Under DC law, the PCSB is to review each school at least every five years. The PCSB gives ratings and ultimately schools with low performance can be closed. They are willing to do PIPs and extensions (for far too many years) but ultimately they do have to shut down failing schools. The rating system has been on hiatus during COVID, but is being re-designed and will return soon. I predict MV will not impress anyone, but will not be bad enough to be closed. Yet.

The other way schools fail is losing enrollment and becoming financially non-viable. That's also a possibility in the coming years if MV doesn't get itself sorted out.

If schools like Shining Stars are still open than no way MV is closed.

You can see the review schedule here: https://dcpcsb.org/charter-reviews-and-renewals SSMA and MV are both up for 15-year review in 2025-26. I do not think they will be closed, but I would like to see them get some conditions. Of course, the PCSB is usually really, really lenient and lets schools flail for a long time before actually closing them. But sometimes they'll apply conditions or require a plan of improvement. I think the question for both SSMA and MV is how can they stop their attrition, and should they accept that they simply cannot operate a full-scale upper grades program?

The 24-25 review cycle also contains some marginal schools. It will be interesting to see.

Has PCSB shut down ANY charters? It just seems unlikely. Please prove me wrong.

What a weird question. Of course they have. It doesn't happen very often because sometimes schools see it coming and voluntarily fold or merge with another school.

This list is from 2019, but just for example, they've closed or accepted charter relinquishment from part of Cesar Chavez, National Collegiate Prep, Seed Middle School, City Arts & Prep, Democracy Prep, and many others.

https://dcpcsb.egnyte.com/dl/sK1pkdcndM

Some of those schools were open for 20 years before PCSB closed them. Most closed on their own, some because they didn’t have the funds to even pay their teachers. PCSB is an absolute joke.