People who ruin neighborhoods (like tkpk) by putting their kids in private school

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options[/b]. I would probably do the same in your case[b]. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Hypocrite.

That’s correct. You can call me a conflicted hypocrite. I can’t send my kids to terrible schools. As other pointed out my kids are not social experiments, I owe it to them to give them a good education. But I don’t want to run away from a reasonably good public school because I can afford private. If I can contribute to the local public school I will choose that.

ACPS is “terrible schools.” Nothing “reasonably good about it.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More of a vent, but i am uttterly frustrated by people with money who move into nice MC neighborhoods like tkpk or silver spring with relatively good schools to get bigger houses and then choose to put their precious kids in private schools.

We are trying to build a community and bring the schools up and these people create a bad trend of pulling a whole group of UMC kids out of the public schools because they cannot handle the diversity and challenges of public schools. All while claiming to be left leaning and to have a social compass. But that is pure white flight. It is depressing. And they dont even seem to see how political and impactful their choice is.

I really wish they stayed out of my city and went to live next to the private schools they send their kids to.

OP you are adorable. Now please tell us who is “we” is. You and 3 of your neighbors?

I’ve got news for you: the needle never moves. Bad schools will be bad 10, 20 years from now, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options[/b]. I would probably do the same in your case[b]. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Hypocrite.

That’s correct. You can call me a conflicted hypocrite. I can’t send my kids to terrible schools. As other pointed out my kids are not social experiments, I owe it to them to give them a good education. But I don’t want to run away from a reasonably good public school because I can afford private. If I can contribute to the local public school I will choose that.

ACPS is “terrible schools.” Nothing “reasonably good about it.”

I know nothing about ACPS and never called it reasonably good

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

PP you literally said “I won’t send my kid to “bad” school” then criticize parents not sending their kids to public school!!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather not fund the public schools for entitled and nosy parents like OP. Maybe raise your own kids?

You’d rather not fund them at all.

Would be happy to let parents pay to educate their own kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

You’re a hypocrite. Why don’t you move to some vibrant, diverse place like SE DC, Prince William County or Annandale where your UMC kid can be a shining role model for others?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d rather not fund the public schools for entitled and nosy parents like OP. Maybe raise your own kids?

You’d rather not fund them at all.

Would be happy to let parents pay to educate their own kids.

Which we do now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

Finland is an ethnically, culturally & racially homogenous. Do you really want to get into this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d rather not fund the public schools for entitled and nosy parents like OP. Maybe raise your own kids?

You’d rather not fund them at all.

Would be happy to let parents pay to educate their own kids.

Which we do now.

Yes this is private school. In public school, you force your neighbors to foot the bill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

PP you literally said “I won’t send my kid to “bad” school” then criticize parents not sending their kids to public school!!!!!

Nope, I wished that in neighborhoods where schools are considered good (we can all debate the definition but I think in the end we know which schools they are), where there has been a positive trend for a while, we don’t start to see a reverse. It is countering but I note that when neighborhoods reach a certain level, wealthier people come in, attracted by the good school aura. But in fact have no intention of using the schools. And I think that is damaging for the future of the neighborhood school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

Finland is an ethnically, culturally & racially homogenous. Do you really want to get into this?

Absolutely not. I think ethnicity, culture and race is not the debate here. Income level is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d rather not fund the public schools for entitled and nosy parents like OP. Maybe raise your own kids?

You’d rather not fund them at all.

Would be happy to let parents pay to educate their own kids.

Which we do now.

Yes this is private school. In public school, you force your neighbors to foot the bill.

Yes, that’s how all civilized societies work. Not every parent can afford private school. Should their kids just not be able to go to school if that’s the case? What if the kids are such that no private school would accept them—undocumented, low income, disabled, ESOL or from an abusive household? Or should “those kids” just work in the fields all day instead while your Larla goes to school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

PP you literally said “I won’t send my kid to “bad” school” then criticize parents not sending their kids to public school!!!!!

Nope, I wished that in neighborhoods where schools are considered good (we can all debate the definition but I think in the end we know which schools they are), where there has been a positive trend for a while, we don’t start to see a reverse. It is countering but I note that when neighborhoods reach a certain level, wealthier people come in, attracted by the good school aura. But in fact have no intention of using the schools. And I think that is damaging for the future of the neighborhood school.

“Counter intuitive” not countering

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t move to Alexandria City or the nice parts near route one then

This. I live in Alexandria (foolish moved here before we had kids). There is zero chance I am sending my kids to ACPS. My kids are in private. Eat my shorts OP!

Id’ rather not eat them. But you are actually making my point. You didn’t move to an area with reasonably good schools so you feel you have no options. I would probably do the same in your case. The difference in my neighborhood is that the schools are not bad and had been seriously improving over the past 20 years. They are (were?) on a good trend. And I hope it will continue.

Oh, so you generously allow that it’s OK for parents to pick a private school if the public option isn’t “reasonably good”.

Who made you the arbiter of what makes a school good enough? Presumably, those parents made the exact same assessment - is the public school good enough? - and came to a different conclusion than you did.

Why are you so salty that you don’t get to make that decision for everyone? Your arrogance is astounding, as is your entitlement. You are not entitled to the presence of your neighbors’ kids in your kids’ classroom. Your neighbors do not owe you a say in their children’s education. They get to make a decision, just as you do.

You seem very angry for someone who is happy and proud of her life choices. Chill? No one is forcing you to do anything.

The US will never be Finland

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/24/the-only-way-to-end-the-class-divide-the-case-for-abolishing-private-schools

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.
Finland’s politicians and educational figures recognised that a profoundly unequal education system did not simply reproduce inequality down the generations, but weakened the fabric of the nation itself. Following a long period of discussion – which drew in figures from the political right and left, educators and academics – Finland abolished its fee-paying schools and instituted a nationwide comprehensive system from the early 1970s onwards. Not only did such reforms lead to the closing of the attainment gap between the richest and poorest students, it also turned Finland into one of the global educational success stories of the modern era.

Finland is an ethnically, culturally & racially homogenous. Do you really want to get into this?

Absolutely not. I think ethnicity, culture and race is not the debate here. Income level is.

In the U.S. race & income are highly-correlated.