New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

"Why do drivers need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, Fernwood, that's nearby?" is a question people might ask to respond to the whole "Why do bicyclists need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, the Bethesda Trolley Trail, that's nearby?" line of thought.

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If you want action to fix or eliminate the bike lanes, please sign the petition.

https://www.change.org/p/remove-the-catastrophically-dangerous-bike-lanes-on-old-georgetown-road-in-bethesda-md?fbclid=IwAR1_Mk5UP6r888bu1AObnulIXfunyyb9MkW5PoIpmxtnrl0Xf4AYO0Cn6zE

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Even with 3 lanes it was often tricky for emergency vehicles to get through, but now with more gridlock it will be near impossible. The lives of those trying to get to Suburban are important too.

I still have yet to see a bike in those lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

Drivers would also take Fernwood. The only catch is that you cannot continue straight on Democracy. But if you are dropping your kid off or walking, there is a HAWK signal on Democracy and there is a gate that you can enter from that side from the athletic fields. Taking Old Georgetown Rd over Fernwood makes little sense for most people in that neighborhood because it’s hard to turn left. You can only make a left turn at Beech. These are things that people that live in Bethesda know. Since you don’t live in Bethesda you obviously don’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:Even with 3 lanes it was often tricky for emergency vehicles to get through, but now with more gridlock it will be near impossible. The lives of those trying to get to Suburban are important too.

I still have yet to see a bike in those lanes.

Even with 3 lanes it was often tricky for emergency vehicles to get through (because cars take up a lot of space, and people don't like to move over), but now with bike lanes, they can use the bike lanes! Especially if, as you say, nobody is using them. Another win for safety.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

"Why do drivers need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, Fernwood, that's nearby?" is a question people might ask to respond to the whole "Why do bicyclists need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, the Bethesda Trolley Trail, that's nearby?" line of thought.

Fernwood terminates at Greentree, that’s why. The question was whether someone would take Old Georgetown from Wyngate and the answer is no, they would not. Everyone who lives in Bethesda knows this. It’s extremely unclear to me why people that obviously don’t live in Bethesda are so opinionated about what happens in Bethesda. Go focus on your own community.
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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

"Why do drivers need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, Fernwood, that's nearby?" is a question people might ask to respond to the whole "Why do bicyclists need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, the Bethesda Trolley Trail, that's nearby?" line of thought.

Fernwood terminates at Greentree, that’s why. The question was whether someone would take Old Georgetown from Wyngate and the answer is no, they would not. Everyone who lives in Bethesda knows this. It’s extremely unclear to me why people that obviously don’t live in Bethesda are so opinionated about what happens in Bethesda. Go focus on your own community.
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Both boys killed on Old Georgetown lived in Wyngate/Bethesda, and the woman killed on Old Georgetown worked as a nanny in Bethesda. Do you want Old Georgetown to be a local street, only used by people who live in Wyngate? A lot of things would be different, if that were so.

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Anonymous wrote:Even with 3 lanes it was often tricky for emergency vehicles to get through, but now with more gridlock it will be near impossible. The lives of those trying to get to Suburban are important too.

I still have yet to see a bike in those lanes.

Even with 3 lanes it was often tricky for emergency vehicles to get through (because cars take up a lot of space, and people don't like to move over), but now with bike lanes, they can use the bike lanes! Especially if, as you say, nobody is using them. Another win for safety.

I don't know, the other day it was pretty bad because cars couldn't move over for an ambulance. I'm not sure why it didn't/couldn't get into the bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

"Why do drivers need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, Fernwood, that's nearby?" is a question people might ask to respond to the whole "Why do bicyclists need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, the Bethesda Trolley Trail, that's nearby?" line of thought.

Fernwood terminates at Greentree, that’s why. The question was whether someone would take Old Georgetown from Wyngate and the answer is no, they would not. Everyone who lives in Bethesda knows this. It’s extremely unclear to me why people that obviously don’t live in Bethesda are so opinionated about what happens in Bethesda. Go focus on your own community.
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Both boys killed on Old Georgetown lived in Wyngate/Bethesda, and the woman killed on Old Georgetown worked as a nanny in Bethesda. Do you want Old Georgetown to be a local street, only used by people who live in Wyngate? A lot of things would be different, if that were so.

The addition of the bike lanes seems like a good step toward making Old Georgetown more of a neighborhood street and less of a thoroughfare. Unfortunately, the county’s only trauma center is on this road, as is one of the main entrances to NIH, so OGR as a neighborhood street doesn’t really address the reality.

Why doesn’t the state shorten the green lights for people leaving NIH at rush hour? That would limit cars entering OGR and 355 from NIH, create backups only on the NIH campus l, and encourage NIH employees to take transit instead of driving.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

Drivers would also take Fernwood. The only catch is that you cannot continue straight on Democracy. But if you are dropping your kid off or walking, there is a HAWK signal on Democracy and there is a gate that you can enter from that side from the athletic fields. Taking Old Georgetown Rd over Fernwood makes little sense for most people in that neighborhood because it’s hard to turn left. You can only make a left turn at Beech. These are things that people that live in Bethesda know. Since you don’t live in Bethesda you obviously don’t know.

No, I don't live in Bethesda, which is why I am asking. I am confused why there are a few posters who say that Fernwood is the only route that makes sense for bikes and that bikes don't need OG if people driving the same route would sometimes take OG over Fernwood. To me it makes sense that if a driver might want to use OG over Fernwood (for whatever reason, again, I don't live in Bethesda) then a cyclist might as well.

I live in DC but sometimes go to Bethesda for work so I follow threads on bike lanes as I would love a safe way to cycle to work events. I assure you that people do not need to live in Bethesda to have a stake in traveling through it.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

Drivers would also take Fernwood. The only catch is that you cannot continue straight on Democracy. But if you are dropping your kid off or walking, there is a HAWK signal on Democracy and there is a gate that you can enter from that side from the athletic fields. Taking Old Georgetown Rd over Fernwood makes little sense for most people in that neighborhood because it’s hard to turn left. You can only make a left turn at Beech. These are things that people that live in Bethesda know. Since you don’t live in Bethesda you obviously don’t know.

No, I don't live in Bethesda, which is why I am asking. I am confused why there are a few posters who say that Fernwood is the only route that makes sense for bikes and that bikes don't need OG if people driving the same route would sometimes take OG over Fernwood. To me it makes sense that if a driver might want to use OG over Fernwood (for whatever reason, again, I don't live in Bethesda) then a cyclist might as well.

I live in DC but sometimes go to Bethesda for work so I follow threads on bike lanes as I would love a safe way to cycle to work events. I assure you that people do not need to live in Bethesda to have a stake in traveling through it.

The next time you are cycling from DC to Bethesda you should check out the Capital Crescent Trail. It’s one of the nicest urban trails I’ve been on.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

Drivers would also take Fernwood. The only catch is that you cannot continue straight on Democracy. But if you are dropping your kid off or walking, there is a HAWK signal on Democracy and there is a gate that you can enter from that side from the athletic fields. Taking Old Georgetown Rd over Fernwood makes little sense for most people in that neighborhood because it’s hard to turn left. You can only make a left turn at Beech. These are things that people that live in Bethesda know. Since you don’t live in Bethesda you obviously don’t know.

No, I don't live in Bethesda, which is why I am asking. I am confused why there are a few posters who say that Fernwood is the only route that makes sense for bikes and that bikes don't need OG if people driving the same route would sometimes take OG over Fernwood. To me it makes sense that if a driver might want to use OG over Fernwood (for whatever reason, again, I don't live in Bethesda) then a cyclist might as well.

I live in DC but sometimes go to Bethesda for work so I follow threads on bike lanes as I would love a safe way to cycle to work events. I assure you that people do not need to live in Bethesda to have a stake in traveling through it.

The next time you are cycling from DC to Bethesda you should check out the Capital Crescent Trail. It’s one of the nicest urban trails I’ve been on.

It looks like it would take longer to cycle to that trail from my house than from my house to Bethesda. And it appears to not go north of downtown Bethesda. A great example of why there needs to be more than one safe path for cyclists (just as drivers have multiple roads they can use).

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

"Why do drivers need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, Fernwood, that's nearby?" is a question people might ask to respond to the whole "Why do bicyclists need Old Georgetown when they have a better alternative, the Bethesda Trolley Trail, that's nearby?" line of thought.

Fernwood terminates at Greentree, that’s why. The question was whether someone would take Old Georgetown from Wyngate and the answer is no, they would not. Everyone who lives in Bethesda knows this. It’s extremely unclear to me why people that obviously don’t live in Bethesda are so opinionated about what happens in Bethesda. Go focus on your own community.
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Both boys killed on Old Georgetown lived in Wyngate/Bethesda, and the woman killed on Old Georgetown worked as a nanny in Bethesda. Do you want Old Georgetown to be a local street, only used by people who live in Wyngate? A lot of things would be different, if that were so.

This is nonsense. Both kids “killed” did not live in the Wyngate neighborhood. This is in fact a lie. And the woman who was killed was hit by a bus crossing the street at Battery Lane, which is outside the area where they installed the bike lanes and has nothing to do with anything except that the Ride On buses are badly designed and have poor visibility for pedestrians.

You either know the truth and are lying or you’re just making things up because you you don’t care about the truth. Either option makes you look bad.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I get bike lanes for commuting and yes, there are people who work in downtown Bethesda, but not that many. I think these will not be widely used.

If you were to ask me why I don't or wouldn't use the bike lanes, it's because when I go to downtown Bethesda, it's for errands or to eat at night, neither of which would be conducive to biking home. I don't foresee any situation in which it would make sense to bike into Bethesda and then home.

80% of Bethesda cycling is recreational and the rest are CCT commuters.

Ok, so wouldn’t a recreational cyclist prefer the Trolley Trail or the CCT over biking alongside traffic?

The Trolley Trail and the CCT won't get a WJ kid to school. You know how there are multiple routes you can take when you're driving, depending on where you're going? People need that when they're going places on a bike, too.

Since you clearly don’t even know the WJ boundary I do wonder wtf you think you’re doing.

Please explain how you would ride from Wyngate to Walter Johnson via the CCT.

You certainly don’t need to take Old Georgetown Road and in fact it would make zero sense to do so. So again I’m asking you wtf you think you’re doing? Don’t even know the area. Honestly pretty sad.

The shortest route between the Wyngate neighborhood and Walter Johnson is along Old Georgetown Road.

I really do appreciate that you are moderating this thread to remove posts so that it flatters you. As I stated and was deleted, from Wyngate ES to WJ HS the fastest and most direct route that anyone that’s not using Google Maps would take is Fernwood. Only someone who doesn’t know the area would say Old Georgetown Road.

This whole thing is honestly so bizarre it’s hard to understand. Lying about simple things, deleting posts and for what?

Do drivers routinely take Fernwood then? Or do they sometimes take OG?

Drivers would also take Fernwood. The only catch is that you cannot continue straight on Democracy. But if you are dropping your kid off or walking, there is a HAWK signal on Democracy and there is a gate that you can enter from that side from the athletic fields. Taking Old Georgetown Rd over Fernwood makes little sense for most people in that neighborhood because it’s hard to turn left. You can only make a left turn at Beech. These are things that people that live in Bethesda know. Since you don’t live in Bethesda you obviously don’t know.

No, I don't live in Bethesda, which is why I am asking. I am confused why there are a few posters who say that Fernwood is the only route that makes sense for bikes and that bikes don't need OG if people driving the same route would sometimes take OG over Fernwood. To me it makes sense that if a driver might want to use OG over Fernwood (for whatever reason, again, I don't live in Bethesda) then a cyclist might as well.

I live in DC but sometimes go to Bethesda for work so I follow threads on bike lanes as I would love a safe way to cycle to work events. I assure you that people do not need to live in Bethesda to have a stake in traveling through it.

The question is where are you trying to go. If you’re inventing fantasy trips on your bike for no reason then I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make.