Ding dong ditching and cops brought home

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.

This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.

Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.

Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.

What is the crime, exactly?

Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ding-dong-ditch-leads-to-charges-for-homeowner/

Yes what a harmless prank! Amirite? No harm to anyone! Just little kids being silly!

So the criminal justice system believes ding dong ditch is harmless and a violent response from a home owner is illegal.

Wow! The system did work.

"Harmless"? I see many people being harmed as a result of that teenager's decision.

Post something what’re a homeowner was harmed by a ding dong ditch.

First google search, a disabled vet who some 9 year old girl likes to repeatedly ding dong ditch and even broke his door so it slams harder, but the person is disabled and has difficulty getting to the door when it rings.

Shot a 15 year old who rang doorbell and ran away
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/james-moshier-accused-of-shooting-15-year-old-ringing-doorbells-and-running-away-with-friends/
LAUREL, N.Y. -- A young teen attending a sleepover never thought a game of "ring the doorbell and run" would land him in the hospital.
The birthday party ended in near disaster when a homeowner grabbed a shotgun and started firing, CBS2's Jennifer McLogan reported Friday.

So what buying skittles can get you shot. The shooter is the problem not get kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Harmless prank = nobody is harmed. Like the example of calling your friend's house in the afternoon and asking if their refrigerator is running. Or putting toilet paper around the tree of a girl you have a crush on.

Not harmless prank = somebody is harmed, even if that harm is just being briefly frightened or inconvenienced or woke up from sleep before a day of work. Now, to do one of these types of pranks on a complete stranger at 10pm- that's no longer funny.

I usually don't throw this word around, but if your definition of "harm" includes "being briefly frightened or inconvenienced or woke up from sleep before a day of work," you truly are a snowflake.

Yes, frightening someone on purpose- not like shouting "boo!" which is also cruel to do to some random adult stranger, but by pounding on their door in the middle of the night- is harmful. People are harmed by being terrified that an intruder is about to enter. Who are you? Can I start tapping on your bedroom window with the butt of a gun while you're asleep with your babies, wearing a mask, and call it a harmless prank?

They rang the doorbell. Do burglars usually ring the doorbell where you live? That's a pretty polite intruder.

Actually yes. Google “knock knock burglars” and you’ll see lots of police warnings and cases about this very thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.

This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.

Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.

Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.

What is the crime, exactly?

Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ding-dong-ditch-leads-to-charges-for-homeowner/

Yes what a harmless prank! Amirite? No harm to anyone! Just little kids being silly!

So the criminal justice system believes ding dong ditch is harmless and a violent response from a home owner is illegal.

Wow! The system did work.

"Harmless"? I see many people being harmed as a result of that teenager's decision.

Post something what’re a homeowner was harmed by a ding dong ditch.

Another google link from the first page talks about a mother who was terrified and hiding with her kids under the kitchen table because she didnt know who kept banging on her door. I'm sure you will argue this didn't actually "harm" her or the kids because they were not physically assaulted

Yea. They were not harmed, she’s a psycho. Her kids are harmed by having a mentally ill mom, not DDD.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.

This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.

Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.

Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.

What is the crime, exactly?

Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ding-dong-ditch-leads-to-charges-for-homeowner/

Yes what a harmless prank! Amirite? No harm to anyone! Just little kids being silly!

So the criminal justice system believes ding dong ditch is harmless and a violent response from a home owner is illegal.

Wow! The system did work.

"Harmless"? I see many people being harmed as a result of that teenager's decision.

Post something what’re a homeowner was harmed by a ding dong ditch.

Another google link from the first page talks about a mother who was terrified and hiding with her kids under the kitchen table because she didnt know who kept banging on her door. I'm sure you will argue this didn't actually "harm" her or the kids because they were not physically assaulted

Yea. They were not harmed, she’s a psycho. Her kids are harmed by having a mentally ill mom, not DDD.

So no, then, you haven’t heard the police warnings about “knock knock” burglars. They do exactly this, and it’s probably what the mom thought was happening. Don’t gaslight people for being afraid for their childrens safety when unknown males are banging on their door in the middle of the night

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.

This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.

Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.

Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.

What is the crime, exactly?

Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ding-dong-ditch-leads-to-charges-for-homeowner/

Yes what a harmless prank! Amirite? No harm to anyone! Just little kids being silly!

So the criminal justice system believes ding dong ditch is harmless and a violent response from a home owner is illegal.

Wow! The system did work.

"Harmless"? I see many people being harmed as a result of that teenager's decision.

Post something what’re a homeowner was harmed by a ding dong ditch.

First google search, a disabled vet who some 9 year old girl likes to repeatedly ding dong ditch and even broke his door so it slams harder, but the person is disabled and has difficulty getting to the door when it rings.

Shot a 15 year old who rang doorbell and ran away
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/james-moshier-accused-of-shooting-15-year-old-ringing-doorbells-and-running-away-with-friends/
LAUREL, N.Y. -- A young teen attending a sleepover never thought a game of "ring the doorbell and run" would land him in the hospital.
The birthday party ended in near disaster when a homeowner grabbed a shotgun and started firing, CBS2's Jennifer McLogan reported Friday.

So what buying skittles can get you shot. The shooter is the problem not get kids.

Ringing a stranger’s doorbell at 10 pm is not an equivalent risk level as buying skittles. You need to teach your kids to make good choices, not laugh it off when they do nasty sh**.

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Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader had friends spend the night. They went out to the park down the street (very safe master planned community) around 10 and about 30 minutes later my doorbell rang and it was 2 cops and my kid and his friends. The cops let me know they got a call and found the kids walking. The kids admitted and were honest and kind of in shock. I couldn't believe they would be so stupid but I realize the collective wisdom of 6 8th grade boys is actually dumb and risky. The cops told them they were putting themselves in a lot of danger because people around here wouldn't hesitate to use a gun in a situation like that in this day and age. They were not wrong. The kids definitely learned their lesson.

How would you handle this with the other parents? One kid already told his mom. Others told me they want to be the ones to tell their parents in the morning, which I understand. I should follow up with a text to the parents later in the day to see if they have spoken with their kid, right? I would want to know and I don't want the parents to think I am not taking responsibility.

Why let my kid back to your house?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.

This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.

Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.

Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.

What is the crime, exactly?

Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ding-dong-ditch-leads-to-charges-for-homeowner/

Yes what a harmless prank! Amirite? No harm to anyone! Just little kids being silly!

So the criminal justice system believes ding dong ditch is harmless and a violent response from a home owner is illegal.

Wow! The system did work.

"Harmless"? I see many people being harmed as a result of that teenager's decision.

Post something what’re a homeowner was harmed by a ding dong ditch.

First google search, a disabled vet who some 9 year old girl likes to repeatedly ding dong ditch and even broke his door so it slams harder, but the person is disabled and has difficulty getting to the door when it rings.

Shot a 15 year old who rang doorbell and ran away
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/james-moshier-accused-of-shooting-15-year-old-ringing-doorbells-and-running-away-with-friends/
LAUREL, N.Y. -- A young teen attending a sleepover never thought a game of "ring the doorbell and run" would land him in the hospital.
The birthday party ended in near disaster when a homeowner grabbed a shotgun and started firing, CBS2's Jennifer McLogan reported Friday.

So what buying skittles can get you shot. The shooter is the problem not get kids.

Ringing a stranger’s doorbell at 10 pm is not an equivalent risk level as buying skittles. You need to teach your kids to make good choices, not laugh it off when they do nasty sh**.

Yet buying skittles ended Trayvon Martins life.

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I tell my kids that scaring people isn't okay. For two reasons:

1) You don't know if the person is going to appreciate it.
2) You don't know how they're going to react.

They've done it to me a few times - initially on purpose, but later accidentally. I have a strong fight/flight reaction in the fight category. Think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=timiu3Q7IgM

So a few times they've surprised me, I've found myself standing there, facing my child with adrenaline pumping and a raised fist. It's not a good feeling for either of us.

Extrapolate to situations like this and weapons in the house and you can see how a harmless prank isn't quite so harmless.

Homeowners and strangers aren't props for the entertainment of others. Adults defending the teens are way past due for dropping their "I'm the main character" mentality and start respecting other people.

[Anonymous]

I guess they don't know how to play the game. You ring the doorbell and run away. No chance of getting shot.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they don't know how to play the game. You ring the doorbell and run away. No chance of getting shot.

Because the other (stranger) residents are just props for their entertainment. No matter how it might frighten or annoy them. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they don't know how to play the game. You ring the doorbell and run away. No chance of getting shot.

Because the other (stranger) residents are just props for their entertainment. No matter how it might frighten or annoy them. Got it.

Door bell ringing is not scary

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I don't understand the defenders of DDD. Even something as simple as waking up a sleeping infant and causing alarm/concern to neighbors is really not nice and I would be really ashamed if my kid did that.

If your TWEEN popped a balloon or made a loud noise close to sleeping baby at a park and they woke up crying would you be like, LOL! Kids! I sure hope not. What's the difference?

My 10 year old DD knows better than to do this. She'd also probably say, people are crazy, you never know what could happen. She's 10.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the defenders of DDD. Even something as simple as waking up a sleeping infant and causing alarm/concern to neighbors is really not nice and I would be really ashamed if my kid did that.

If your TWEEN popped a balloon or made a loud noise close to sleeping baby at a park and they woke up crying would you be like, LOL! Kids! I sure hope not. What's the difference?

My 10 year old DD knows better than to do this. She'd also probably say, people are crazy, you never know what could happen. She's 10.

I don’t understand it either. I think it’s just one person.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they don't know how to play the game. You ring the doorbell and run away. No chance of getting shot.

Because the other (stranger) residents are just props for their entertainment. No matter how it might frighten or annoy them. Got it.

Door bell ringing is not scary

This has been gone over.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they don't know how to play the game. You ring the doorbell and run away. No chance of getting shot.

Because the other (stranger) residents are just props for their entertainment. No matter how it might frighten or annoy them. Got it.

Door bell ringing is not scary

This has been gone over.

Yes. Just reminding you it’s not scary.