Shen Yun warning

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

Exactly. OP can suck it.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Deep spiritual roots doesn't make me believe it's going to be a lecture on quantum mechanics. It means I can expect God bothering or New Age nonsense.

I wouldn’t expect religious propaganda from a “cultural” performance.

DP. That five millennia stuff is a giveaway.

For religious propaganda? No.

Yes.

That just means 1000s of years of “culture”. Not religion.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the “about” page on their website the depict religious paintings and then mention Falun Dafa which is a religious movement.

https://www.shenyunperformingarts.org/spirituality

I’m sorry you were disappointed but I’m not sure what you think you can do. They don’t hide the religious side of their performer from the audience.

Once you are in the audience, they don't hide the religious side. But they advertise the show as a Chinese cultural experience, not as a fundamental religious experience.

It’s not hidden on their website either.

“It’s the show the CCP doesn’t want you to see.”
That means we’ll be seeing it.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Deep spiritual roots doesn't make me believe it's going to be a lecture on quantum mechanics. It means I can expect God bothering or New Age nonsense.

I wouldn’t expect religious propaganda from a “cultural” performance.

DP. That five millennia stuff is a giveaway.

For religious propaganda? No.

Yes.

That just means 1000s of years of “culture”. Not religion.

It's going to come as a shock, but religion is older than Western science. Anything referencing thousands of years of culture is going to have religion intertwined if not tightly intertwined.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Deep spiritual roots doesn't make me believe it's going to be a lecture on quantum mechanics. It means I can expect God bothering or New Age nonsense.

I wouldn’t expect religious propaganda from a “cultural” performance.

DP. That five millennia stuff is a giveaway.

For religious propaganda? No.

Yes.

That just means 1000s of years of “culture”. Not religion.

It's going to come as a shock, but religion is older than Western science. Anything referencing thousands of years of culture is going to have religion intertwined if not tightly intertwined.

There is sharing the history of the culture with religion intertwined.

And then there is pushing religious propaganda by extremists.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Deep spiritual roots doesn't make me believe it's going to be a lecture on quantum mechanics. It means I can expect God bothering or New Age nonsense.

I wouldn’t expect religious propaganda from a “cultural” performance.

DP. That five millennia stuff is a giveaway.

For religious propaganda? No.

Yes.

That just means 1000s of years of “culture”. Not religion.

It's going to come as a shock, but religion is older than Western science. Anything referencing thousands of years of culture is going to have religion intertwined if not tightly intertwined.

There is sharing the history of the culture with religion intertwined.

And then there is pushing religious propaganda by extremists.

Still trying to push the cult angle? Give it up.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Deep spiritual roots doesn't make me believe it's going to be a lecture on quantum mechanics. It means I can expect God bothering or New Age nonsense.

I wouldn’t expect religious propaganda from a “cultural” performance.

DP. That five millennia stuff is a giveaway.

For religious propaganda? No.

Yes.

That just means 1000s of years of “culture”. Not religion.

It's going to come as a shock, but religion is older than Western science. Anything referencing thousands of years of culture is going to have religion intertwined if not tightly intertwined.

There is sharing the history of the culture with religion intertwined.

And then there is pushing religious propaganda by extremists.

Still trying to push the cult angle? Give it up.

Why don't you want people to talk about it?

They are pushing religious propaganda. People should be aware of that before buying tickets.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Deep spiritual roots doesn't make me believe it's going to be a lecture on quantum mechanics. It means I can expect God bothering or New Age nonsense.

I wouldn’t expect religious propaganda from a “cultural” performance.

DP. That five millennia stuff is a giveaway.

For religious propaganda? No.

Yes.

That just means 1000s of years of “culture”. Not religion.

It's going to come as a shock, but religion is older than Western science. Anything referencing thousands of years of culture is going to have religion intertwined if not tightly intertwined.

There is sharing the history of the culture with religion intertwined.

And then there is pushing religious propaganda by extremists.

Still trying to push the cult angle? Give it up.

Why don't you want people to talk about it?

They are pushing religious propaganda. People should be aware of that before buying tickets.

Because there is nothing to talk about. You think it's a cult, most people think it is a group of performers sharing their cultural, political, and religious beliefs through art. Even if it is a cult, wtf cares. GET OVER IT. GET A LIFE.

You're either obsessed to a concerning degree, or you're a Chinese government troll.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

Because the consensus is that it is not a cult. That's your opinion and not widely held.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions? I’ve gone to many, many shows there over decades and have never googled the production companies.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

That’s your own failure to plan.

So you do or you don’t research performances beyond the Kennedy Center descriptions?

I do. Don’t you read reviews from multiple sources? Casts change all the time in productions and some are better than others.

No, I don’t read reviews of shows that are scheduled out months in advance because the casts aren’t set and individual performers wouldn’t affect my decision to see a performance. The KC description/video has been fully sufficient.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description on their website and promotional materials?

Well that’s your problem. As a “researcher” you should have read the reviews.

Why are you still here beating a dead horse? You’re not getting the answers here. Nor in the thread you created in Religion.

You are confusing posters.

I’m not a researcher. I’m just a regular KC subscriber who expects the descriptions to accurately represent the performances.

The description is accurate. You just disagree with it.

The description is not accurate.

Where does this mention anything about fundamentalist propaganda?
“ SHEN YUN’S unique artistic vision expands theatrical experience into a multi-dimensional, inspiring journey through one of humanity’s greatest treasures—the five millennia of traditional Chinese culture.
This epic production immerses you in stories reaching back to the most distant past. You’ll explore realms even beyond our visible world. Featuring one of the world’s oldest art forms— classical Chinese dance—along with patented scenographic effects and all-original orchestral works, Shen Yun opens a portal to a civilization of enchanting beauty and enlightening wisdom.
Traditional Chinese culture—with its profoundly optimistic worldview and deep spiritual roots— was displaced by communism in China. Today, only the New York–based Shen Yun is keeping this precious heritage alive on stage. And it’s an experience that will take your breath away.”



It’s very telling that they NO NOT include an accurate description. Because they know most people wouldn’t go see it. They can only get an audience by misleading advertising.

Deep spiritual roots doesn't make me believe it's going to be a lecture on quantum mechanics. It means I can expect God bothering or New Age nonsense.

I wouldn’t expect religious propaganda from a “cultural” performance.

DP. That five millennia stuff is a giveaway.

For religious propaganda? No.

Yes.

That just means 1000s of years of “culture”. Not religion.

It's going to come as a shock, but religion is older than Western science. Anything referencing thousands of years of culture is going to have religion intertwined if not tightly intertwined.

There is sharing the history of the culture with religion intertwined.

And then there is pushing religious propaganda by extremists.

Still trying to push the cult angle? Give it up.

Why don't you want people to talk about it?

They are pushing religious propaganda. People should be aware of that before buying tickets.

Because there is nothing to talk about. You think it's a cult, most people think it is a group of performers sharing their cultural, political, and religious beliefs through art. Even if it is a cult, wtf cares. GET OVER IT. GET A LIFE.

You're either obsessed to a concerning degree, or you're a Chinese government troll.

If there is nothing to discuss then why are you posting?

Most people would want to know ahead of time if the show they are going to spend time/money on is religious propaganda. Not sure why you have a problem with that.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

Clearly the description isn’t sufficient which is why this we have this thread. This show is an anomaly.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

Clearly the description isn’t sufficient which is why this we have this thread. This show is an anomaly.

I’m thinking that the OP —or at least their expectation— is the anomaly. The show has been to the area before, possibly even at the Kennedy Center. If multiple people felt the description was inadequate and brought this to the attention of KC staff, my guess is that it would have been addressed by now, and the materials would have been changed to reflect that.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

Clearly the description isn’t sufficient which is why this we have this thread. This show is an anomaly.

I’m thinking that the OP —or at least their expectation— is the anomaly. The show has been to the area before, possibly even at the Kennedy Center. If multiple people felt the description was inadequate and brought this to the attention of KC staff, my guess is that it would have been addressed by now, and the materials would have been changed to reflect that.

Or it was a business decision to not change it because if they did they wouldn’t fill as many seats.

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Anonymous wrote:The Shen Yun website specifically references spirituality, specific Eastern religions, and the oppression of Falun Dafa due to their beliefs. Why would you assume this production should be completely secular? It's not the role of the Kennedy Center to censor or provide warnings about religious content, or any content with which you may not agree.

How many times do you “research” a production company before booking something at the Kennedy Center. Most reasonable adults assume that TKC doesn’t promote cults.

NP: I do. If I’m going to see a play, or dance performance, I look up reviews. If I’m going to hear music, I look up reviews and see if there are videos up on YouTube. Something would have to spark my interest before I’d order the tickets, so it would be on me if I decided to order tickets for a performance based on zero information.

The OP apparently tried Google, so I can only encourage them to realize that if I had the kinds of concerns that the OP does, even a cursory glance at the most easily found information would have nudged me to dig a little deeper to determine what all of the readily available to the point of being in-your-face references to things like “divine beings dancing” might mean. The OP “doesn’t want to let it go.” I’m not really sure what that means. Do they want to warn others —who, like them, are easily stunned and fail to do adequate research? Get a refund for the tickets they bought without knowing what they were buying? Blame the Kennedy Center for not screening their wide range of varied offerings according to the OP’s personal and idiosyncratic preferences? Something else?

The KC descriptions/videos are sufficient for every show I’ve seen.

Why can’t TKC provide an accurate description? What’s the issue with wanting that?

I told you what I would do. If, according to you, the KC descriptions are “sufficient for every show you’ve seen” — then I’d guess that the descriptions of this show are sufficient for the vast majority of people who go to see the show. It’s on you, if you have a particular idiosyncratic concern, to do whatever research you feel you need to do. It’s not up to the KC to magically provide what you personally would consider an “accurate description “— because of your personal concerns. The “issue with wanting that” is that you seem to expect something magically tailored to your particular needs.
tldr: They did their bit.

Clearly the description isn’t sufficient which is why this we have this thread. This show is an anomaly.

I’m thinking that the OP —or at least their expectation— is the anomaly. The show has been to the area before, possibly even at the Kennedy Center. If multiple people felt the description was inadequate and brought this to the attention of KC staff, my guess is that it would have been addressed by now, and the materials would have been changed to reflect that.

Or it was a business decision to not change it because if they did they wouldn’t fill as many seats.

Do you have any evidence at all that other people are either as displeased as the OP, or as likely to forego even the most basic research for tickets they are purchasing? It really isn’t a good “business decision “ to bring in a performance THAT HAS BEEN IN THE AREA MANY TIMES BEFORE if people not only dislike it but feel somehow deceived, so kind of an unlikely strategy for a venue as experienced as the Kennedy Center. It’s far more likely that the OP is the anomaly.