MCPS HS Start-times need to be changed

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. 14 pages of Karens huffing and puffing on a DOA subject.

The only reason later start times is DOA is because MCPS and the BOE fail to put the needs of students first. If Dr. McKnight was serious about her slogan for the school year then she would support the idea.

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Yes they fail to put the needs of some students ahead of other students to address the whims of a some parents who fail to grasp your actions affect others

This. Wealthy parents can't get their kids to bed at a reasonable time and claim early starts harm their children. They fail to realize that not everyone is in the same situation. Find a new hobby please, this one has been discussed and decided.

I’m not sure I understand your comment. I teach at a high school with majority lower income kids and they go to bed crazy late. Many of them either sleep through first period or come late (towards the end of first period). Some of them work at restaurants and often get home from work at 1 am. They would greatly benefit from a later school start.

Think about this. They stat later and get out of school later, and still have to work the same hours so they get home later and bed even later. That does not fix the problem but makes the problem worse.

A later start time would help them. Many of these kids are working 7-11 pm or 7.30 pm-12 am. Not sure why they are working these late hours exactly but they are. Or they are home on their phone until 1 am. During winter break, many of these kids will stay up until 4 am. Many teenagers, not all, are night owls. Once puberty hits, sleep patterns shift.

This is a parenting issue. Welcome to the real world.

You know nothing about adolescent growth and development. I hope you have younger kids and not teenagers.

And clearly you know less since you aren't able to grasp that its a parenting issue.

Yes, parents who know that teens need to sleep late and that school starting early is an issue that needs to be fixed. Glad you know as well.

You can be a childish snot all you like, but start times aren't changing. Time to give your sweet snowflakes a bedtime.

[Anonymous]

I’m guessing start times will change at some point. Not sure when exactly. It could be another 10 years.
MCPS cannot ignore the science for ever. They may be the last school district to change but rather than be leaders, they will play catch up.
MCPS is considered meh for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing start times will change at some point. Not sure when exactly. It could be another 10 years.
MCPS cannot ignore the science for ever. They may be the last school district to change but rather than be leaders, they will play catch up.
MCPS is considered meh for a reason.

You mean the science that all children. need sleep? In the meantime, you might try parenting by setting a reasonable bedtime. Children can easily adapt and get sufficient sleep despite the outrageous claims some posters are making because they find the current start times inconvenient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing start times will change at some point. Not sure when exactly. It could be another 10 years.
MCPS cannot ignore the science for ever. They may be the last school district to change but rather than be leaders, they will play catch up.
MCPS is considered meh for a reason.

You mean the science that all children. need sleep? In the meantime, you might try parenting by setting a reasonable bedtime. Children can easily adapt and get sufficient sleep despite the outrageous claims some posters are making because they find the current start times inconvenient.

Stop with the parenting lecture. If that is your only line, it is pretty lame. If you refuse to read a single thing on the issue, so be it. You are not adding anything to the discussion. Why don’t you post some actual data or a study that supports your claim that lax parenting is the problem

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing start times will change at some point. Not sure when exactly. It could be another 10 years.
MCPS cannot ignore the science for ever. They may be the last school district to change but rather than be leaders, they will play catch up.
MCPS is considered meh for a reason.

Science. There is no science to bad parenting.

[Anonymous]

So, what happens when start times are later, kids go to bed later and still tired?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing start times will change at some point. Not sure when exactly. It could be another 10 years.
MCPS cannot ignore the science for ever. They may be the last school district to change but rather than be leaders, they will play catch up.
MCPS is considered meh for a reason.

You mean the science that all children. need sleep? In the meantime, you might try parenting by setting a reasonable bedtime. Children can easily adapt and get sufficient sleep despite the outrageous claims some posters are making because they find the current start times inconvenient.

Stop with the parenting lecture. If that is your only line, it is pretty lame. If you refuse to read a single thing on the issue, so be it. You are not adding anything to the discussion. Why don’t you post some actual data or a study that supports your claim that lax parenting is the problem

Yes, yes you saw a study that told you what you wanted to hear. Please try looking a bit deeper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, what happens when start times are later, kids go to bed later and still tired?

Yes but apparently this would be more convenient for the OP so we should switch.

[Anonymous]

I’m sure tomorrow will be a wasted day for high schoolers. They will all be so tired. I’m dreading trying to get my kid up in the morning

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure tomorrow will be a wasted day for high schoolers. They will all be so tired. I’m dreading trying to get my kid up in the morning

NP.. I had a hard time getting up this morning, too, and focusing at work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing start times will change at some point. Not sure when exactly. It could be another 10 years.
MCPS cannot ignore the science for ever. They may be the last school district to change but rather than be leaders, they will play catch up.
MCPS is considered meh for a reason.

+1 I think the change will be coming everywhere. The science is clear. All experts agree that teens need 8-10 hours of sleep, ideally 9 to 9 1/2 hours. In our district (not Montgomery County), the high school bus comes at 6:23 a.m., so they wake up around 6 or so. School started at 7:20, but they would often get dropped off almost 30 minutes before that so that the buses could make the middle school run.

It is unreasonable to expect that teenagers will go to bed between 8:30 and 9:00 p.m. in order to get a healthy amount of sleep. Kids' body clocks aren't set to fall asleep that early. It is not a parenting issue.

As a parent who has had one kid go to public school and one kid go to private, I can attest that the late start time made a world of difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure tomorrow will be a wasted day for high schoolers. They will all be so tired. I’m dreading trying to get my kid up in the morning

You should try giving them a bedtime. I know parenting is hard, but they will be less tired with a good nights sleep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, what happens when start times are later, kids go to bed later and still tired?

I’m hoping you aren’t stupid again. Their body clock has them going to bed later therefore, later start time would allow them the amount of sleep they need. Consequently, they wouldn’t be tired, stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure tomorrow will be a wasted day for high schoolers. They will all be so tired. I’m dreading trying to get my kid up in the morning

You should try giving them a bedtime. I know parenting is hard, but they will be less tired with a good nights sleep.

Giving them a later start is parenting, you idiot. Good parents know that teens have a shift in their circadian click that’s different.
You should give parenting a try.

[Anonymous]

Mcps is behind on this issue, but they will eventually have no choice but to catch up.