Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

I mean, that isn't the way that communities and elections work. I was born and raised in DC but don't think I should have more of a say in the city than someone who moved here 30 days ago- we both have the same right to vote in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

Elections speak for the community. Good thing we just had one.

ANC elections do not and when recent transplants make expansive exaggerated claims about the role and function of ANCs in order to score a self-serving political point...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

Elections speak for the community. Good thing we just had one.

Sliverman lost. This election was a stinging repudiation of the left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

I am the person you ar eresponding to. I have lived here over 55 years. Am I a recent transplant?

If you’ve been here that long, let’s be honest, you’re kids are grown and you don’t have to be anywhere in a hurry these days. Most of us have busy lives and young kids and need safe side streets and efficient major corridors. The bike lanes threaten booth those needs so the bike bros can save on metro fare. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lawsuit challenging DDOT's decision making here.

Based on?

DDOT has conducted the studies.
The ANCs have been given great weight.
Th Mayor has made the decision, just as has happened in dozens of miles of bike lanes across the city.

The only reason to do this is delay. Which wastes money. taxpayers money that could go to helping the homeless or other worthy causes.

When DDOT conducted its "studies" (more like projections based on assumptions), a key assumption was that Beach Drive would be available for traffic diverting from Connecticut Avenue as the result of reducing vehicle traffic lanes. No longer. DDOT at a minimum needs to go back to confirm its traffic diversion analysis.

Beech drive has been closed for over two years. The reversible lanes have been closed for over 2 years. What we see now is what it is going to be. IOW, nothing majorly different.

The study assumed Beach Drive would be open

Then it’s clear that DDOT needs to revalidate its study. If a major commuter alternative to Connecticut Ave that the study assumed would be available is now unavailable, what are the traffic implications for Connecticut and for other N-S routes like Reno and Wisconsin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

When you don't have any other good argument, xenophobia always gives you something to fall back on. Or you could just make a more basic claim that the voice of anyone who disagrees with you doesn't matter. Either way, it's rather pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

Elections speak for the community. Good thing we just had one.

This wasn't on the ballot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

Elections speak for the community. Good thing we just had one.

This wasn't on the ballot.

For all of the discussion in the debates and on the email lists, yes it was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

I am the person you ar eresponding to. I have lived here over 55 years. Am I a recent transplant?

If you’ve been here that long, let’s be honest, you’re kids are grown and you don’t have to be anywhere in a hurry these days. Most of us have busy lives and young kids and need safe side streets and efficient major corridors. The bike lanes threaten booth those needs so the bike bros can save on metro fare. No thanks.

Or, I grew up here, have kids, are generally in the same boat as you and fundamentally disagree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lawsuit challenging DDOT's decision making here.

Based on?

DDOT has conducted the studies.
The ANCs have been given great weight.
Th Mayor has made the decision, just as has happened in dozens of miles of bike lanes across the city.

The only reason to do this is delay. Which wastes money. taxpayers money that could go to helping the homeless or other worthy causes.

When DDOT conducted its "studies" (more like projections based on assumptions), a key assumption was that Beach Drive would be available for traffic diverting from Connecticut Avenue as the result of reducing vehicle traffic lanes. No longer. DDOT at a minimum needs to go back to confirm its traffic diversion analysis.

Beech drive has been closed for over two years. The reversible lanes have been closed for over 2 years. What we see now is what it is going to be. IOW, nothing majorly different.

The study assumed Beach Drive would be open

Then it’s clear that DDOT needs to revalidate its study. If a major commuter alternative to Connecticut Ave that the study assumed would be available is now unavailable, what are the traffic implications for Connecticut and for other N-S routes like Reno and Wisconsin?

You realize Wisconsin Ave will be getting the same treatment next, right? Look at the long term DDOT plans. You head will explode if this is your assumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lawsuit challenging DDOT's decision making here.

Based on?

DDOT has conducted the studies.
The ANCs have been given great weight.
Th Mayor has made the decision, just as has happened in dozens of miles of bike lanes across the city.

The only reason to do this is delay. Which wastes money. taxpayers money that could go to helping the homeless or other worthy causes.

When DDOT conducted its "studies" (more like projections based on assumptions), a key assumption was that Beach Drive would be available for traffic diverting from Connecticut Avenue as the result of reducing vehicle traffic lanes. No longer. DDOT at a minimum needs to go back to confirm its traffic diversion analysis.

Beech drive has been closed for over two years. The reversible lanes have been closed for over 2 years. What we see now is what it is going to be. IOW, nothing majorly different.

The study assumed Beach Drive would be open

Then it’s clear that DDOT needs to revalidate its study. If a major commuter alternative to Connecticut Ave that the study assumed would be available is now unavailable, what are the traffic implications for Connecticut and for other N-S routes like Reno and Wisconsin?

You realize Wisconsin Ave will be getting the same treatment next, right? Look at the long term DDOT plans. You head will explode if this is your assumption.

That's the point. The plan was sold on bunch of bullspit assumptions designed to make it look less impactful than it will be. They also didn't include changes to 14th or 16th while Georgia has the same treatment planned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

When you don't have any other good argument, xenophobia always gives you something to fall back on. Or you could just make a more basic claim that the voice of anyone who disagrees with you doesn't matter. Either way, it's rather pathetic.

Nope. I'm referring to something specific and a specific misunderstanding made about the role of ANC and ANC elections in the community.

Transplants seem to think ANCs are our version of local government. They aren't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

When you don't have any other good argument, xenophobia always gives you something to fall back on. Or you could just make a more basic claim that the voice of anyone who disagrees with you doesn't matter. Either way, it's rather pathetic.

Nope. I'm referring to something specific and a specific misunderstanding made about the role of ANC and ANC elections in the community.

Transplants seem to think ANCs are our version of local government. They aren't.

Oh, so your point is that it's not because pro-bike ANCs won the election but that you lost because the a Ward 3 council member elected is in favor of it? Was that what you were going for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

I am the person you ar eresponding to. I have lived here over 55 years. Am I a recent transplant?

If you’ve been here that long, let’s be honest, you’re kids are grown and you don’t have to be anywhere in a hurry these days. Most of us have busy lives and young kids and need safe side streets and efficient major corridors. The bike lanes threaten booth those needs so the bike bros can save on metro fare. No thanks.

Yes, because people who drive on Connecticut avenue are well known for paying metro fares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This about sums it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/13/bicycle-advocates-won/

Self serving and tacky. Anyone that claims this issue is going away is wrong. It's a letter to the editor. Whoopdido

If opponents of the bike lanes want to keep it as an issue, then they are the ones who are dividing the community. The issue has been settled. There has been an election which has further settled it. This is the transportation trend globally over the past 15 years, and DC is just playing catch up.

Look, after the results of the 2022 election, many pundits said "the kids have voted for the future they want, we should listen to them"

Maybe it is time for the old guard NIMBYs in Ward 3 to heed the same advice.

Recent transplants shouldn't be speaking for the community

When you don't have any other good argument, xenophobia always gives you something to fall back on. Or you could just make a more basic claim that the voice of anyone who disagrees with you doesn't matter. Either way, it's rather pathetic.

Nope. I'm referring to something specific and a specific misunderstanding made about the role of ANC and ANC elections in the community.

Transplants seem to think ANCs are our version of local government. They aren't.

Then why are you all exercised over them. They seem to be living rent free in your head.

In other words, this is a decision the city made, with or without the ANC. Your anger should be directed at the Councilmember who supported it and the Mayor who s paying for it.

Too bad the Mayor has won in a landslide and all of the democrat council candidates also supported it. Maybe you are living in the wrong place?