FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s revisit Franklin/Carson/Rocky Run.

If we move (1) Franklin kids who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run, (2) Carson kids zoned to SLHS (fox mill and some Floris kids) to Hughes, and (3) Crossfield kids from Carson to Franklin, will this solve the split feeder problem?


This makes no sense. The Franklin kids that go to Chantilly are from Oak Hill and Lees Corner. Some of the Oak Hill kids are walkers to Franklin. I think some of the Lees Corner kids may be, as well. Franklin is on the dividing line of Oak Hill and Lees Corner.

It would make more sense to send the Navy/Waples Mill kids to Carson.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s revisit Franklin/Carson/Rocky Run.

If we move (1) Franklin kids who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run, (2) Carson kids zoned to SLHS (fox mill and some Floris kids) to Hughes, and (3) Crossfield kids from Carson to Franklin, will this solve the split feeder problem?


This makes no sense. The Franklin kids that go to Chantilly are from Oak Hill and Lees Corner. Some of the Oak Hill kids are walkers to Franklin. I think some of the Lees Corner kids may be, as well. Franklin is on the dividing line of Oak Hill and Lees Corner.

It would make more sense to send the Navy/Waples Mill kids to Carson.


Franklin, Carson, and Rocky Run are all so geographically close that there are bound to be some weird boundaries for those three schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Did you guys see the boundary review slides for Scenario 1: Attendance islands?

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-04/4-11-2025_superintendent_boundary_review_advisory_committee_presentation.pdf

Looks like the focus for the next meeting on 4/25 is split feeders…


The stupidity is abundant display there, where the elimination of attendance islands in many of the scenarios, without other changes, widens the capacity gaps between schools. In other words, they take two schools, one with an attendance island, both at around 90% capacity, and then with the elimination of the attendance island push one of the schools near or over capacity.

These people are so incredibly ridiculous.


Some schools would be quite under enrolled with these changes without many options to pick up other students. Like Lorton Station and Hayfield can absorb Halley’s island at Hagel Circle without putting either school over capacity, but taking 146 kids out of Halley brings them down to an enrollment of roughly 480 and 68% capacity. They could take a few streets out of Silverbrook, but if they go too far they’d give some kids a much longer bus ride.


This is just the start. Next, they’ll do split feeders. And finally, capacity on 5/5. What a warmup


Do we think they’ll start the “split feeder” step by starting with these maps that fix the attendance islands? Or will they start from the existing/currently in force maps, fix the split feeders to the extent possible, and then try to reconcile later with the attendance island fixes?


Possibly both? Alexandria city public schools is currently rezoning and they provided multiple scenarios for community feedback.

The attendance islands seem to be the lowest hanging fruit to start with.
Anonymous
Two strong observations:

Why would they send the Navy island in Franklin Farm to Oak Hill? Franklin Farm on that side of the parkway goes to Crossfield. Look at the map. There is something else going on here. These kids currently go to as does Crossfield.

Thru missed a real island--though it is tiny:
Look at the boundary map for Lee's Corner. Compare it with the Crossfield boundary map. There is a street --a cul-de-sac that is split. Some go to Crossfield and some to Lee's Corner. The students that go to Crossfield must drive through the Lee's Corner boundary in order to get to Crossfield. There are a couple of other cul-de-sacs off of the street.
If you want to see it, look at Ashvale Drive. Some of it may be be Franklin Glen instead of Franklin Farm and had the boundary line drawn before the parkway was built. That would be the Lee's Corner portion.

This could be easily missed if you are not familiar with the area.

This is why they should have had people familiar with elementary school boundaries on the committee.
Anonymous
The Sangster folks are not going to be thrilled about getting rezoned to Newington and SoCo. It makes sense, and the new schools are fine, but many of those families picked their neighborhood specifically to attend Sangster.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Longfellow/mclean boundary looks clearer to me and solves capacity and keeps neighborhood together.


No. It is more of a mess. 50 plus net change to Longfellow means 100 more to Mclean HS. Assuming no split feeder for Longfellow. In many cases or slides all Thru did was circle/move a connector.

Nothing more should go into Longfellow/Mclean. Should the Spring Hill Mclean Island even attend Spring Hill? https://boundary.fcps.edu/boundary/
All of it or pieces of it? Checkerboard high rise - Accenture - 8421 Broad St-across from Spring Hill metro is assigned to Spring Hill/Longfellow/Mclean
2051 International Drive=Saks Galleria Mall -Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall

Note the apt listed has AAP at Churchill Rd which is near Cooper and has a modular. Spring Hill is projected over capacity pre shuffle.

And remember the addition as part of the renovation for Falls Church HS?

How can the BRAC even have relevant discussions when the grouped by FCPS artificial regions? Marshall Pyramid is in Region 5 with Chantilly and Westfield. Also it is possible that more from islands applied for BRAC leaving who/what to provide input on existing non island boundaries for Mclean?
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Anonymous wrote:They said a split feeder is any place where less than 25% goes to one ms/hs - that helps clarify there will still be split feeders in places which is fine.


It is not fine and is sloppy work.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The Longfellow/mclean boundary looks clearer to me and solves capacity and keeps neighborhood together.


No. It is more of a mess. 50 plus net change to Longfellow means 100 more to Mclean HS. Assuming no split feeder for Longfellow. In many cases or slides all Thru did was circle/move a connector.

Nothing more should go into Longfellow/Mclean. Should the Spring Hill Mclean Island even attend Spring Hill? https://boundary.fcps.edu/boundary/
All of it or pieces of it? Checkerboard high rise - Accenture - 8421 Broad St-across from Spring Hill metro is assigned to Spring Hill/Longfellow/Mclean
2051 International Drive=Saks Galleria Mall -Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall

Note the apt listed has AAP at Churchill Rd which is near Cooper and has a modular. Spring Hill is projected over capacity pre shuffle.

And remember the addition as part of the renovation for Falls Church HS?

How can the BRAC even have relevant discussions when the grouped by FCPS artificial regions? Marshall Pyramid is in Region 5 with Chantilly and Westfield. Also it is possible that more from islands applied for BRAC leaving who/what to provide input on existing non island boundaries for Mclean?


As I read the proposed Longfellow/McLean changes from "Scenario 1," there would be one set of changes affecting McLean and two affecting Longfellow:

McLean:

* Move Spring Hill attendance island from McLean to Langley;

* Move area bordered by 123, Toll Road, and 495 from Marshall to McLean; and

* Move a SPA that includes the Falls Hill neighborhood and some nearby areas off Route 7 from Marshall to McLean (no indication they would not stay at Shrevewood).

Net projected impact: - 142 students

Longfellow

* All of the changes for McLean (-76 impact on Longfellow), plus the following changes relating to the Graham Road/Pine Spring situations estimated to have a +50 impact on Longfellow:

* Move a small area west of Hollywood Road from Timber Lane to Shrevewood, and from Longfellow to Kilmer; and

* Move several CPAs now assigned to Pine Spring and Graham Road to Timber Lane, and from Jackson to Longfellow

Net projected impact: = -26 students

As noted earlier, the intent appears to have been to recognize that McLean is overcrowed while Longfellow is not, and to make Timber Lane a 100% feeder to at least Longfellow. However, it would appear to create a weird situation where a very small part of Longfellow would go to Falls Church, a very small part of Kilmer would go to McLean, and kids living near the "old" Graham Road site would now have a significantly longer commute to Timber Lane than the current Graham Road site. And it would also turn Shrevewood, which currently feeds entirely to Kilmer/Marshall, into a split feeder with Longfellow/McLean. Perhaps they take all this up in the 4/25 presentation. For now, they are putting a lot of McLean/Longfellow in play, especially since Westgate and Lemon Road are also split feeders and they haven't addressed them at all yet.

As for your point about whether the Tysons island "should even attend Spring Hill," it's unclear where you want these kids to go. They should have prioritized a new ES in Tysons (they have a call on a site off Jones Bridge Road) over the Dunn Loring site, in which case these kids could/should go to that school, but Frisch obviously is hell-bent to move forward with Dunn Loring, which is further away. What the School Board has done by giving Dunn Loring a green light is in direct opposition to the goals of the Tysons Partnership, which is to add a school to Tysons rather than continue to send kids to schools elsewhere.
Anonymous
^ Sorry, meant SPAs, not CPAs, above.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Sangster folks are not going to be thrilled about getting rezoned to Newington and SoCo. It makes sense, and the new schools are fine, but many of those families picked their neighborhood specifically to attend Sangster.


I think that entire neighborhood showed up at the boundary meeting at Lake Braddock because they knew they were on the chopping block.
Anonymous
Some of this stuff is so disingenuous, like moving a large chunk of Kilmer to Thoreau and claiming that it's "Due to Graham Road Elementary Changes."

Like seriously? Where did we find these people?
Anonymous
Are all split feeders equally bad in the eyes of BRAC? I’m seeing some cases where fixing MS split feeders have now created ES Splits
Anonymous
Why would they not propose to move the Pine Spring island to Graham Road on the same side of Route 50 rather than to Westlawn?
Anonymous
So far so good, no drop in home value due to movement to an undesirable school. But also no real value for the students of FCPS.

Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic while the band played on. Let’s hope the “pause” happens after Spring break.
Anonymous
Where can we find the SPAs?
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