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DP. I think you’re the one that’s naive. Everything starts with letters. The anti Iraq War sentiment started with letters to President Bush if I remember correctly |
| Jeff should be embarrassed that he has allowed this thread to go on. He gave a platform to some real Quanon types to propagate conspiracies and hate. I hope some anti hate organizations take a look here. |
And there we have it. And pro-Hamas Democrats voted for it. How can they be that stupid? How will they vote next time? |
I don’t think this is happening Posters have asked very legitimate questions Right now the Israeli ground offensive is targeting the refugee camps. Do you feel no sympathy for the suffering or only if the person who is suffering happens to have been born with the correct ancestors? |
| Again - NO ONE IS PRO-HAMAS. Stop using that strawman to shut down discussion. |
Ok, you agree that Israel handed over 80 bodies, right? Where did these 80 bodies come from? Who are they? What happened to them? Even if you believe the explanation that they came from graves to check to see if they were hostages, I believe that is a violation of Geneva conventions. You can't just go around digging up graves and taking the bodies. Graves have to be respected. |
DCUM is a for-profit operation and this thread no doubt generates a ton of eyes for the ads. |
If you're making demands of Israel that you don't make of Hamas, you are supporting Hamas. |
But the former head of the Abu Kabir forensic institute near Tel Aviv, Dr. Yehuda Hiss, acknowledged the practice, so your accusation that people are "spreading blood libel-type rumors to fuel hatred against Jews" is simply histrionic and illogical. Instead of throwing up a smoke screen in an attempt to silence concerns, why not call for an independent investigation to prove or disprove the claims? Here is some further information: "Israel has admitted pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians, and others, without the consent of their families – a practice it said ended in the 1990s – it emerged at the weekend." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs From the same report: "Channel 2 TV reported that in the 1990s, specialists at Abu Kabir harvested skin, corneas, heart valves and bones from the bodies of Israeli soldiers, Israeli citizens, Palestinians and foreign workers, often without permission from relatives. The Israeli military confirmed to the programme that the practice took place, but added: "This activity ended a decade ago and does not happen any longer." Hiss said: "We started to harvest corneas ... whatever was done was highly informal. No permission was asked from the family."" Jumping to the present ... Yesterday, Israel handed over about 80 corpses to officials in the Gaza Strip without any explanation of where they came from. Gaza authorities are saying there are signs of organ theft and have called for an independent international investigation. They are also saying there have been previous incidents since October 7 of corpses missing organs and exhumed corpses. They say Israelis dug up a mass grave and confiscated bodies and that the IDF confiscated dozens of corpses from two hospitals in Gaza. Given Israel's history and the current information, the concerns are very reasonable. I'm sure we'd all welcome an independent investigation to clear up the matter one way or the other. |
You're definitely not an antisemitic conspiracy theorist, are you? |
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You're still flogging the tired, old canard that criticizing Israel is racist and hateful. The propagation of "conspiracies and hate" comes in large part from those who make the vile accusation that any condemnation of Israel's actions is "antisemitic." Israel is not a sacred cow and is not above criticism. |
BS. I hold Israel to a higher standard than terrorists; we all should. And again, Israel has failed to make the distinction between Palestinians and Hamas. Kind of ironic that people scream about double standards while engaging in the same behavior. |
A plurality of Gazans are pro Hamas. 57% of American Muslims believe 10/7 was justified. Not to mention the myriad protesters, students, and academics in the US who overtly supported 10/7. Check the polls and stop lying. |
There is no end to your deflection. You are spreading disgusting rumors and Hamas-fueled propaganda. It is indefensible and a perfect example of how grotesque anti-Jewish hatred permeates anti-Israel critique. |