Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:People in places like Faketomic or Fakeesda are upsete they are no longer in Churchill or Whitman

Nasty

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Anonymous wrote:If our goals are different then the solutions we want will be different and that's okay. Talking about what people want is helpful. Of course everyone wants short distances to school. Everyone wants their kid to stay with their friends from elementary to high school. But some people also are scared their property values will go down and that their child will have to attend a school with a different "character" than the current school. Also, most people don't want overcrowding, but also don't want to be have a longer bus ride to alleviate overcrowding.

In the dcc it’s very common for kids to separate in ms or hs. They are fine.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's best to stop bickering about which side has more manchilds. Due to regualr distribution of population, we are always going to have folks who don't know how to behave. Be it in east or west side.

Let's focus on coming up with the good solutions and if we can make it better collectively.

When the most well resourced people have a financial incentive to maintain segregation, we are not going to find solutions that benefit everyone

Why don't you propose a solution which makes things better? Let's hear it. Let's not get into who wants what. Let's just focus on discussing various ideas.

Numerous people on this thread have suggested it is better for everyone to segregate predominately Black and Brown low income from predominantly White and Asian high income kids. When that is part of the discussion, it needs to named and called out.

Care to post a link in this thread by numerous people. I did read the thread but did not see anyone proposing that. I may have missed.

You missed it

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's best to stop bickering about which side has more manchilds. Due to regualr distribution of population, we are always going to have folks who don't know how to behave. Be it in east or west side.

Let's focus on coming up with the good solutions and if we can make it better collectively.

When the most well resourced people have a financial incentive to maintain segregation, we are not going to find solutions that benefit everyone

Why don't you propose a solution which makes things better? Let's hear it. Let's not get into who wants what. Let's just focus on discussing various ideas.

Numerous people on this thread have suggested it is better for everyone to segregate predominately Black and Brown low income from predominantly White and Asian high income kids. When that is part of the discussion, it needs to named and called out.

I have not seen this at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people that buy in good schools are not wealthy. They do in fact stretch to buy property there and sacrifice in other areas to send their kids to those schools. Its a slap in the face to people who prioritize Where their kids go to school

Here is a a post that implies people in West county are better and should not be mixed with other types of people because it would be a "slap in the face"

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Anonymous wrote:I regret buying 2 years ago in Tilden area. I knew that boudary will change but I expected half of WJ will move to Woodward and then both schools will take one elemenatry each from outside.

With all 4 options, Woodward is drastically worse than WJ.

Option 1 essentially does this. The problem is thst Woodward gets Viers Mill ES and WJ gets Rosemary Hills and Chevy Chase ES, so not equivalent demographically. Plus, Tilden is more diverse than North Bethesda MS to begin with because it encompasses more apartments in Rollins and off Parklawn.

Given how close WJ and Woodward are, MCPS should come up with options which keeps WJ and Woodward FARMS in the same range.

They are better off keeping kids local and schools high farms as they get more funding and smaller class sizes. The families who go to these schools don’t mind and we are trying to avoid the racist families and happy to have our kids at these schools.

Here is a post advocating for maintaining segregation

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Anonymous wrote:If our goals are different then the solutions we want will be different and that's okay. Talking about what people want is helpful. Of course everyone wants short distances to school. Everyone wants their kid to stay with their friends from elementary to high school. But some people also are scared their property values will go down and that their child will have to attend a school with a different "character" than the current school. Also, most people don't want overcrowding, but also don't want to be have a longer bus ride to alleviate overcrowding.

They put out a whole survey about what people want, and I haven't seen the results come out anywhere. Have these been released?

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Anonymous wrote:All I see here is people who used to say “the Whitman district” or “the BCC district” realizing that they are in fact all in the “MCPS district.” This is one organization that must think about one county’s needs as a whole.

Good schools are good schools because of the people that buy homes in the school. If you put all of Kennedy at Whitman and all of Whitman at Kennedy then Kennedy would be the highest performing school.

Making our best schools worse than they are doesn't do anything good for the county. All it does is drive away the people that prioritize schools.

We chose our DCC school very intentionally. It was what we could afford without overextending ourselves. We love the school our child attends.

+1 except we could have bought in Bethesda but preferred the DCC. Meanwhile we absolutely prioritize education. We just also prioritize diversity, walkability, short commutes.

I feel the same way about WJ. But if I type the exact same words but say WJ instead of DCC, it is hoarding, segregation
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There is nothing wrong with loving your child’s school and being nervous about a change or opposing long bus rides.
Given that you prioritize education, walkability and short commutes, how would you like a 45 min bus ride for your child for the greater good? Would you want to know at the very least that the benefit would be worth it?

The PP was responding to a post implying that only people on the west side of the county care about their kids' education. Do you agree or disagree with that?

Of course there are parents throughout the entire county who value education. It is idiotic to think otherwise

Therefore you disagree with the person who suggested "the people who prioritize schools" only live in one part of the county. But you took offense to somebody literally describing the factors they prioritized when purchasing their DCC house. This is getting tiresome.

It is tiresome.

The trope that emerges from West county re valuing education

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The trope that emerges from East county re racism, hoarding

You never seem to be bothered when an entire group of people is told they are racist and hoarding when in fact they have similar sentiments to others about commute time.

So you don't think it is okay to call out racist people who literally say that based on where they live, they prioritize education, and based on where other people live, they do not prioritize education?

Do you think it is okay to oppose boundary changes solely because of impacts on property values? Because that is resource hoarding, pure and simple. If you are literally just against long bus rides, those comments don't refer to you. For some reason though, you are against calling a spade a spade.

Well they aren’t hoarding resources because they ARE the resources. The schools in the West are high performing because highly educated people moved there and raised the scores. The property values rose because the highly educated people’s kids brought up the scores. So now bussing those kids away in large enough numbers while bussing in lower performing kids will lower the scores and the property values. I can see why people are pissed as they are being used, the value that they helped create is taken away while their kid is bussed away to juice up somebody else’s property values.

Here is another person advocating for segregation because west county people are better

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Anonymous wrote:Most people that buy in good schools are not wealthy. They do in fact stretch to buy property there and sacrifice in other areas to send their kids to those schools. Its a slap in the face to people who prioritize Where their kids go to school

Here is a a post that implies people in West county are better and should not be mixed with other types of people because it would be a "slap in the face"

Work on your reading comprehension then.

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Anonymous wrote:If our goals are different then the solutions we want will be different and that's okay. Talking about what people want is helpful. Of course everyone wants short distances to school. Everyone wants their kid to stay with their friends from elementary to high school. But some people also are scared their property values will go down and that their child will have to attend a school with a different "character" than the current school. Also, most people don't want overcrowding, but also don't want to be have a longer bus ride to alleviate overcrowding.

They put out a whole survey about what people want, and I haven't seen the results come out anywhere. Have these been released?

These are just my observations from previous analyses and this thread

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Anonymous wrote:Most people that buy in good schools are not wealthy. They do in fact stretch to buy property there and sacrifice in other areas to send their kids to those schools. Its a slap in the face to people who prioritize Where their kids go to school

Here is a a post that implies people in West county are better and should not be mixed with other types of people because it would be a "slap in the face"

Work on your reading comprehension then.

I mean I'm not going to partner in developing solutions with someone who thinks the above. Sounds like you think what they said is ok so I also don't want to partner with you. I am going to advocate for what is best for me and my family, not yours.

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So not a single example of anyone asking about segragating black/brown from White/Asian in entire thread?


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It seems some posters are reading a lot more than what getting posted.

Many poeple don't want to attend high FARMS school and has very little to do with Black/Brown/White/Asian etc.

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Anonymous wrote:So not a single example of anyone asking about segragating black/brown from White/Asian in entire thread?


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It seems some posters are reading a lot more than what getting posted.

Many poeple don't want to attend high FARMS school and has very little to do with Black/Brown/White/Asian etc.

I posted a few, if you don't see it I don't care

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Anonymous wrote:Most people that buy in good schools are not wealthy. They do in fact stretch to buy property there and sacrifice in other areas to send their kids to those schools. Its a slap in the face to people who prioritize Where their kids go to school

Here is a a post that implies people in West county are better and should not be mixed with other types of people because it would be a "slap in the face"

Work on your reading comprehension then.

I mean I'm not going to partner in developing solutions with someone who thinks the above. Sounds like you think what they said is ok so I also don't want to partner with you. I am going to advocate for what is best for me and my family, not yours.

Person was responding to some one calling families in Old Farm wealthy and their ability to easily move. Not sure how you tied that comment with Black/Brown/White/Asian etc.

Also, it's an anonymous forum. All kinds of views will come. Focus on positive comments. Some derogatory comments gets thrown by posters from different regions towards each other. It may be 2-3 nasty posters from different sides, but on other hands vast majority of posters simply want to have a meanigful discussion and get ideas from all sides to figure out the best solution.

You are free to share ideas to make situation better or not, its your choice. I will suggest ignoring nasty comments. Focusing on that simply feeds the trolls.

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For sure DCC kids can outshine kids from the WEST. We have had the benefit of small class sizes, the most stellar teachers (better than yours since you have to be highly trained to teach steuggling students unlike ones in the west who kick back and relax) and tons of support staff and constant progress monitoring of our kids. Plus they are not whiny and can handle different situations. You’re the ones who live in the bibble…