Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous
A big miss on ADP payrolls. The private payroll company saying private payrolls shed 32,000 workers in Nov. That's the 4th negative number in past 6 months. The estimate was for +40,000, so the street was off ... this may be coming from being hammered by the tariffs
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prediction came true


Where is this place?


Colorado




Low gas prices just in time for mass layoffs when people aren’t driving to work. Whomp, whomp.


“Gas is too high! He said gas would be cheaper! Too high!!!!”

Gas prices drop.

“Cheap gas is a sign of an economic apocalypse. No one needs gas now.”

SMH
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prediction came true


Where is this place?


Colorado




Low gas prices just in time for mass layoffs when people aren’t driving to work. Whomp, whomp.


“Gas is too high! He said gas would be cheaper! Too high!!!!”

Gas prices drop.

“Cheap gas is a sign of an economic apocalypse. No one needs gas now.”

SMH


It's a sign of a slowing economy. That aside, which of his policies lowered gas prices? (not counting tariffs wrecking the economy of course)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are people so programmed to root against Trump that they’ll go out of their way to downplay positive news?


Are people so ingrained in a cult that they cannot look critically at information to understand the actual state of our economy?


In general, Americans are stupid with finances. They used to buy a house with a 30 year mortgage in your 30's, keep it and raise a family, pay it off, and then cash out at 60ish and downsize.

Now people use their house as an ATM through a HELOC, blow out any equity they have and live in high debt year-to-year. They flip their house every several years to keep up with the Joneses and take out 96-month loans on the Eurosedan all with the expectation they're gonna work until they're one-hundred.

People are not just stupid, they're f'n stupid.

https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/06/09/more-older-americans-continue-to-pay-mortgages
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are people so programmed to root against Trump that they’ll go out of their way to downplay positive news?


Are people so ingrained in a cult that they cannot look critically at information to understand the actual state of our economy?


In general, Americans are stupid with finances. They used to buy a house with a 30 year mortgage in your 30's, keep it and raise a family, pay it off, and then cash out at 60ish and downsize.

Now people use their house as an ATM through a HELOC, blow out any equity they have and live in high debt year-to-year. They flip their house every several years to keep up with the Joneses and take out 96-month loans on the Eurosedan all with the expectation they're gonna work until they're one-hundred.

People are not just stupid, they're f'n stupid.

https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/06/09/more-older-americans-continue-to-pay-mortgages

+1 Also Americans are financing Christmas, with BNPL programs that are no better than payday loans.
Anonymous
That debt figure isn't going to level out anytime soon with Trump. Tariff receipts are below expectations and tax receipts will be lower with the GOP tax bill.

This happens every time with the GOP and yet somehow, the party communications has managed to get the public to believe the democrats are the fiscally irresponsible party.
Anonymous
LOL, blaming the failing job numbers on the deportations of immigrants


Lutnick: "Remember, as you deport people, that's going to suppress private job numbers of small businesses. But they'll rebalance and regrow."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are people so programmed to root against Trump that they’ll go out of their way to downplay positive news?


Are people so ingrained in a cult that they cannot look critically at information to understand the actual state of our economy?


In general, Americans are stupid with finances. They used to buy a house with a 30 year mortgage in your 30's, keep it and raise a family, pay it off, and then cash out at 60ish and downsize.

Now people use their house as an ATM through a HELOC, blow out any equity they have and live in high debt year-to-year. They flip their house every several years to keep up with the Joneses and take out 96-month loans on the Eurosedan all with the expectation they're gonna work until they're one-hundred.

People are not just stupid, they're f'n stupid.

https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/06/09/more-older-americans-continue-to-pay-mortgages



Well some people cannot buy a house in their 30s. I had to wait until 40 because of the GFC and the housing bubble. People aren’t flipping houses much anymore either because of the job market collapsing. Everyone is now stuck in their houses while holding on with dear life to their employment. Mobility isn’t a thing under Trump.

(I’m with you on cashing out equity tho! Very dumb. Did they learn nothing from the GFC??)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prediction came true


Where is this place?


Colorado




Low gas prices just in time for mass layoffs when people aren’t driving to work. Whomp, whomp.


“Gas is too high! He said gas would be cheaper! Too high!!!!”

Gas prices drop.

“Cheap gas is a sign of an economic apocalypse. No one needs gas now.”

SMH


Pesky supply and demand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A big miss on ADP payrolls. The private payroll company saying private payrolls shed 32,000 workers in Nov. That's the 4th negative number in past 6 months. The estimate was for +40,000, so the street was off ... this may be coming from being hammered by the tariffs


Adding graphic:


Small businesses are spiraling the drain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A big miss on ADP payrolls. The private payroll company saying private payrolls shed 32,000 workers in Nov. That's the 4th negative number in past 6 months. The estimate was for +40,000, so the street was off ... this may be coming from being hammered by the tariffs


Adding graphic:


Small businesses are spiraling the drain.

Small businesses are the backbone of the US economy, and they are starting to close up shop due to the tariffs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/07/how-trumps-tariffs-are-crushing-small-businesses.html

The U.S. has 36 million small businesses.
About 61 million Americans, or nearly half of the country’s private sector employees work for small businesses.


https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/us-shop-relied-canadians-announces-closure-citing-tariffs-trumps-choice

https://www.kwch.com/video/2025/10/03/wichita-business-closing-due-tariffs/

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/small-business-forced-to-close-after-tariffs/

https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2025/11/iconic-outdoors-retalier-in-business-since-1856-closing-40-locations-due-to-tariffs.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A big miss on ADP payrolls. The private payroll company saying private payrolls shed 32,000 workers in Nov. That's the 4th negative number in past 6 months. The estimate was for +40,000, so the street was off ... this may be coming from being hammered by the tariffs


Adding graphic:


Small businesses are spiraling the drain.


So. That’s really bad. Especially when you consider there was no external shock to the economy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Canada is re-aligning its economy towards Europe and away from the US.

Can someone on the right explain why this is a win for the US?

+1 And America First has led to Europe First, RIP to American defense contractors.
Anonymous
Maybe Landau needs to understand that no one trusts the US anymore under this administration and hence the rebirth of the european defense industry.
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