ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'll take any former ECNL players on my team!


And you are?
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Anonymous wrote:what do plans have to do with loyalty? people need to get a life and off this forum. Here's the sad truth. ECNL/MLSN and GA to a similar extent are the best possible pathways to your kids playing at the next level if that is their goal. (The kid not the parent)

Like it or not, like ECNL or not like MYS/BRAVE/VYS or what ever other club your kid plays in, this is reality. Is it going to change in the time frame your kid is in youth soccer? Nope. If you think it is, keep posting on this forum fellow angry keyboard people and continue to grow this ridiculous set of 175 pages


A change is coming, stay under your rock.


What should we do? I have not seen any offers coming in. My dd is so into being on an ECNL team. What do I tell her? How do you cope with this mess?


GA


Don't get caught up in it. Lots of high level options around Union is going to fail, so you likely have a blessing in disguise.


I just need two more years of this BS
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'll take any former ECNL players on my team!


And you are?


#BridgeCoach
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Anonymous wrote:I'll take any former ECNL players on my team!


And you are?


#BridgeCoach


#GAFTK
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Anonymous wrote:There will be at least 4 or 5 kids getting offers using politics. That kind of politics where the parent does even have to show up in practices and tryouts.


That's true pretty much everywhere. Different club than Br/Union-- Kid on ECNL that momma keeps on the team. No idea what sway she has because it's the same at HS. Not attractive-very large, loud mouth, annoying---everyone figures she must have dirt on someone because it doesn't appear it's $ or sex. It's long past the age of keeping someone for a loud mouth. But kids talk. She's doing her kid a major disservice.


I know exactly who this is.


Not sure if you have seen this but beside big $$ donations , some parents interrupt the training session to go say hi to the head coach and hang out with him for a while. Crazy stuff man and the kid gets selected even without a good first touch or foot skills. That is the soccer world we live in this area.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There will be at least 4 or 5 kids getting offers using politics. That kind of politics where the parent does even have to show up in practices and tryouts.


That's true pretty much everywhere. Different club than Br/Union-- Kid on ECNL that momma keeps on the team. No idea what sway she has because it's the same at HS. Not attractive-very large, loud mouth, annoying---everyone figures she must have dirt on someone because it doesn't appear it's $ or sex. It's long past the age of keeping someone for a loud mouth. But kids talk. She's doing her kid a major disservice.


I know exactly who this is.


Not sure if you have seen this but beside big $$ donations , some parents interrupt the training session to go say hi to the head coach and hang out with him for a while. Crazy stuff man and the kid gets selected even without a good first touch or foot skills. That is the soccer world we live in this area.


Biggest.pet.peeve. I will never and have never done that for either of my kids--even when they have gotten the screw job. I don't talk to or email coaches. Period. It's the way I was raised. My dad coached and told us 'the cream will rise to the top'. Frankly, when one door shuts--my kids have always ended up somewhere better and they know it's because of their hard work and their talent--not mommy or daddy greasing wheels. Those kids end up with low self-esteem and everyone knows why they are where they are. Kids do talk. Those kids develop zero grit.

This area with lawyers and lobbyists and $$ is particularly bad for this kind of thing.
Anonymous
I see 200 pages easily for this topic.

Does anyone want to bet it reaches 300?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep trying out at different places. Coaches have different views.

Encourage her to keep getting better, so she is always ready to display her talent. Best of luck and don’t dismay!


Leagues don't matter, find the right coach and team, and then she needs to work twice as much outside of practice. Most kids don't do this and wonder why they are not getting better and selected for things. Teach your kids about accountability and follow-through on longer term goals now, sports is a wonderful vehicle for that.


Statement is true for life lessons. Absolutely wrong if you have any plans of playing at the college level.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There will be at least 4 or 5 kids getting offers using politics. That kind of politics where the parent does even have to show up in practices and tryouts.


That's true pretty much everywhere. Different club than Br/Union-- Kid on ECNL that momma keeps on the team. No idea what sway she has because it's the same at HS. Not attractive-very large, loud mouth, annoying---everyone figures she must have dirt on someone because it doesn't appear it's $ or sex. It's long past the age of keeping someone for a loud mouth. But kids talk. She's doing her kid a major disservice.


I know exactly who this is.


Not sure if you have seen this but beside big $$ donations , some parents interrupt the training session to go say hi to the head coach and hang out with him for a while. Crazy stuff man and the kid gets selected even without a good first touch or foot skills. That is the soccer world we live in this area.


Biggest.pet.peeve. I will never and have never done that for either of my kids--even when they have gotten the screw job. I don't talk to or email coaches. Period. It's the way I was raised. My dad coached and told us 'the cream will rise to the top'. Frankly, when one door shuts--my kids have always ended up somewhere better and they know it's because of their hard work and their talent--not mommy or daddy greasing wheels. Those kids end up with low self-esteem and everyone knows why they are where they are. Kids do talk. Those kids develop zero grit.

This area with lawyers and lobbyists and $$ is particularly bad for this kind of thing.



100% agree. That is how things should be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep trying out at different places. Coaches have different views.

Encourage her to keep getting better, so she is always ready to display her talent. Best of luck and don’t dismay!


Leagues don't matter, find the right coach and team, and then she needs to work twice as much outside of practice. Most kids don't do this and wonder why they are not getting better and selected for things. Teach your kids about accountability and follow-through on longer term goals now, sports is a wonderful vehicle for that.


Statement is true for life lessons. Absolutely wrong if you have any plans of playing at the college level.


Good luck getting to a D1 school at ECNL-RL level
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep trying out at different places. Coaches have different views.

Encourage her to keep getting better, so she is always ready to display her talent. Best of luck and don’t dismay!


Leagues don't matter, find the right coach and team, and then she needs to work twice as much outside of practice. Most kids don't do this and wonder why they are not getting better and selected for things. Teach your kids about accountability and follow-through on longer term goals now, sports is a wonderful vehicle for that.


Statement is true for life lessons. Absolutely wrong if you have any plans of playing at the college level.


Good luck getting to a D1 school at ECNL-RL level


It really doesn’t depend on the league. When the kids shows up in a college camp, it is all about the skills. Nobody cares what league you played in IMO.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see 200 pages easily for this topic.

Does anyone want to bet it reaches 300?


Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep trying out at different places. Coaches have different views.

Encourage her to keep getting better, so she is always ready to display her talent. Best of luck and don’t dismay!


Leagues don't matter, find the right coach and team, and then she needs to work twice as much outside of practice. Most kids don't do this and wonder why they are not getting better and selected for things. Teach your kids about accountability and follow-through on longer term goals now, sports is a wonderful vehicle for that.


Statement is true for life lessons. Absolutely wrong if you have any plans of playing at the college level.


Good luck getting to a D1 school at ECNL-RL level

Hmmm, you are agreeing with me and randomly mentioning RL. You must have started happy hour!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There will be at least 4 or 5 kids getting offers using politics. That kind of politics where the parent does even have to show up in practices and tryouts.


That's true pretty much everywhere. Different club than Br/Union-- Kid on ECNL that momma keeps on the team. No idea what sway she has because it's the same at HS. Not attractive-very large, loud mouth, annoying---everyone figures she must have dirt on someone because it doesn't appear it's $ or sex. It's long past the age of keeping someone for a loud mouth. But kids talk. She's doing her kid a major disservice.


I know exactly who this is.


Not sure if you have seen this but beside big $$ donations , some parents interrupt the training session to go say hi to the head coach and hang out with him for a while. Crazy stuff man and the kid gets selected even without a good first touch or foot skills. That is the soccer world we live in this area.


Biggest.pet.peeve. I will never and have never done that for either of my kids--even when they have gotten the screw job. I don't talk to or email coaches. Period. It's the way I was raised. My dad coached and told us 'the cream will rise to the top'. Frankly, when one door shuts--my kids have always ended up somewhere better and they know it's because of their hard work and their talent--not mommy or daddy greasing wheels. Those kids end up with low self-esteem and everyone knows why they are where they are. Kids do talk. Those kids develop zero grit.

This area with lawyers and lobbyists and $$ is particularly bad for this kind of thing.


You are correct sir. I do the same, only reply to coaches emails/texts for evaluations. But I see all the politics happening everywhere and behind close doors. Again, kids will show who is who in the field.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep trying out at different places. Coaches have different views.

Encourage her to keep getting better, so she is always ready to display her talent. Best of luck and don’t dismay!


Leagues don't matter, find the right coach and team, and then she needs to work twice as much outside of practice. Most kids don't do this and wonder why they are not getting better and selected for things. Teach your kids about accountability and follow-through on longer term goals now, sports is a wonderful vehicle for that.


Statement is true for life lessons. Absolutely wrong if you have any plans of playing at the college level.


Good luck getting to a D1 school at ECNL-RL level


It really doesn’t depend on the league. When the kids shows up in a college camp, it is all about the skills. Nobody cares what league you played in IMO.


League is a platform. As a recruiter you go where you can get the biggest bang for your buck. I'll invest in a trip to ECNL/GA/MLS showcase knowing I will see a lot of top end players in the same location and time. I won't have the budget to go to the smaller events like local tournaments. For the player and family, can you really afford the time and money to go to every college ID? Probably not so the you pick a platform where you get seen by more coaches at the same time and then go the camps at schools that interest you.
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