Kate's New Picture

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a really nice article that lays out how the whole monrachy/press system works. For those of us that need a primer.

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/?fbclid=IwAR0IUvXPKx0unj3SCEjQntNCQGTi1dC8uVOKLVZximV9ZneLt076ffjBukg

This was incredibly useful, thank you! I learned a bunch of things, but two that jump out:

- KP has blatantly lied about William's health before. Apparently William had a severe case of Covid in April 2022 but when asked numerous times if the Prince had ever had Covid, reps vehemently denied it. It wasn't revealed until November of that year that he'd been sick with it. This is so fascinating to me because I just can't imagine why you would lie about this. Most people have had Covid at least once at this point. It sounds like he was quite sick but was not hospitalized, so one of the "flu-like" cases (mine was similar). Why would you cover this up? I don't get it.

- The details about how when KP is talking to the press or "authorizing" a paparazzi photo or not. I kind of knew some of this (like I knew about the royal rota and about the voluntary gag order on pap photos in the British press) but it was really useful to have it laid out so clearly.

I really recommend reading that whole piece if you are interested in this story, including the interview, as it was very revealing.

I think one possible reason to lie about William having COVID could have been that Queen Elizabeth also had COVID in early 2022 — which suggests that people close to her might not have been as meticulously careful as someone interacting with a vulnerable nonagenarian might have needed to be. So if there were a coverup it might have been to avoid tracing how QEll got COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Car photo is also doctored.

This is CRAZY!!

This has all been fun but now I really thinj she may be really, really in trouble

Agree

See American media

See WHAT in American media? Other than speculation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have the conspiracy theorists considered that the reason why her face looks similar to the Vogue shoot is because she’s the same person? And has a go-to pose/smile?

There’s a dimpling in the vogue cover that isn’t present in the Mother’s Day pic. Also she’s wearing a hat, which would be pretty annoying to remove for a professional, let alone an amateur.

I’m with you that something is weird with William and Kate right now, but I don’t think she spliced a magazine cover onto her body.

Signed,
Someone who always defends MM in these threads

Its already been proven to be lifted - catch up we’re onto the SECOND doctored photo of the week

The photo was edited yes, but not to the degree some are speculating. And the car photo, again, she has the same side profile as in December because she’s the same person as was photographed in December.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a really nice article that lays out how the whole monrachy/press system works. For those of us that need a primer.

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/?fbclid=IwAR0IUvXPKx0unj3SCEjQntNCQGTi1dC8uVOKLVZximV9ZneLt076ffjBukg

This was incredibly useful, thank you! I learned a bunch of things, but two that jump out:

- KP has blatantly lied about William's health before. Apparently William had a severe case of Covid in April 2022 but when asked numerous times if the Prince had ever had Covid, reps vehemently denied it. It wasn't revealed until November of that year that he'd been sick with it. This is so fascinating to me because I just can't imagine why you would lie about this. Most people have had Covid at least once at this point. It sounds like he was quite sick but was not hospitalized, so one of the "flu-like" cases (mine was similar). Why would you cover this up? I don't get it.

- The details about how when KP is talking to the press or "authorizing" a paparazzi photo or not. I kind of knew some of this (like I knew about the royal rota and about the voluntary gag order on pap photos in the British press) but it was really useful to have it laid out so clearly.

I really recommend reading that whole piece if you are interested in this story, including the interview, as it was very revealing.

I think one possible reason to lie about William having COVID could have been that Queen Elizabeth also had COVID in early 2022 — which suggests that people close to her might not have been as meticulously careful as someone interacting with a vulnerable nonagenarian might have needed to be. So if there were a coverup it might have been to avoid tracing how QEll got COVID.

No, they lied about him having COVID in April 2020, very different COVID environment than 2022.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/01/world/prince-william-had-covid-19-in-april-but-kept-it-a-secret.html#:~:text=Prince%20William%20contracted%20Covid%2D19,did%20not%20offer%20additional%20details.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Car photo is also doctored.

This is CRAZY!!

This has all been fun but now I really thinj she may be really, really in trouble

No, the car photo is not doctored. The photographers have said it's not.

/s. 😉

Ha honestly I missed the sarcasm the first time (I'm tired) and I'm glad you said this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Car photo is also doctored.

This is CRAZY!!

This has all been fun but now I really thinj she may be really, really in trouble

No, the car photo is not doctored. The photographers have said it's not.

Yeah and "Kate" took the heat for the frankenphoto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My original fantasy (in addition to Crohn's or eating disorder treatment) was that that she was pregnant, and had an ectopic pregnancy (that was deeply emotionally and physically traumatic) which perhaps also resulted in an emergency hysterectomy. I suspected she was then mourning not only the pregnancy but future pregnancies, essentially needing healing physically and emotionally because she was depressed, understandably. (Perhaps she was also at risk of sepsis and the situation was quite serious). BUT hearing now about the marriage and the picture fiasco makes me indeed wonder if they are separating or in a deep marital crisis. Reports of his drinking provide more fodder as well as the odd timing of reports whereby it was stated that William and nanny were handling school runs followed by close declarations that HER family was circling the wagons and doing much of the caregiving. Multiple things can be happening at once (individual issues, marital crisis, larger family dynamics...perhaps Charles is very ill and they are reeling as they prepare to take over years earlier than expected and scrambling, particularly if the marriage is also troubled). Intuitively, it feels like it is a troubled marriage which is deeply sad if true.

I wondered about something similar. Kate’s primary value to the monarchy has been her ability to give birth to future monarchs, and, secondarily, to represent the monarchy in an appropriately positive, photogenic way. Given that, something like a hysterectomy might have been especially traumatic to someone in her position— IF something similar were to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American media doing the dirty work

https://x.com/tudorchick1501/status/1767317162098622875

Dirty, yes. These links don’t say anything. They’re just more speculation and more of what is in this thread.

I think it is a safe assumption that they are underplaying the severity of what she has. That seems obvious and is their pattern going back decades. (They never called procedures on Queen's sister as being related to lung cancer, which they were, as one small example). They are not above outright denials and lies. It doesn't mean she's dying, but yes it is possibly quite serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My original fantasy (in addition to Crohn's or eating disorder treatment) was that that she was pregnant, and had an ectopic pregnancy (that was deeply emotionally and physically traumatic) which perhaps also resulted in an emergency hysterectomy. I suspected she was then mourning not only the pregnancy but future pregnancies, essentially needing healing physically and emotionally because she was depressed, understandably. (Perhaps she was also at risk of sepsis and the situation was quite serious). BUT hearing now about the marriage and the picture fiasco makes me indeed wonder if they are separating or in a deep marital crisis. Reports of his drinking provide more fodder as well as the odd timing of reports whereby it was stated that William and nanny were handling school runs followed by close declarations that HER family was circling the wagons and doing much of the caregiving. Multiple things can be happening at once (individual issues, marital crisis, larger family dynamics...perhaps Charles is very ill and they are reeling as they prepare to take over years earlier than expected and scrambling, particularly if the marriage is also troubled). Intuitively, it feels like it is a troubled marriage which is deeply sad if true.

Same. I'm not a big fan of the royals but I don't want Kate to be mistreated like Diana was. I wonder if Rose plays some role in all this.

[Anonymous]

Is there any actual coverage anywhere in the media? I wish Nancy Grace would jump in. Or Anderson

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently William doesn’t live at adalaide cottage….and that’s well known. She lives there alone w/kids.
Guys - dig into British media

Read that:
- Kate and William don't live together.
- She lives in Windsor close to her parents. - He lives in KP and Amner Hall (who lives close to Amner? Rose…. whose husband is reportedly gay)…

Just looked Rose up. I don’t know that I believe the affair. I mean, he could have just married her if he loved her, she is an aristocrat and would have likely been suitable wife. BUT…poor Rose. Her husband is so old. Why?? What was she thinking. She is 39 and he is 64!

Her sister also married a much older titled guy. Wanting titles and wealth running the family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently William doesn’t live at adalaide cottage….and that’s well known. She lives there alone w/kids.
Guys - dig into British media

Read that:
- Kate and William don't live together.
- She lives in Windsor close to her parents. - He lives in KP and Amner Hall (who lives close to Amner? Rose…. whose husband is reportedly gay)…

Just looked Rose up. I don’t know that I believe the affair. I mean, he could have just married her if he loved her, she is an aristocrat and would have likely been suitable wife. BUT…poor Rose. Her husband is so old. Why?? What was she thinking. She is 39 and he is 64!

Her sister also married a much older titled guy. Wanting titles and wealth running the family.

Pippa is 40 and her husband is 48.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My original fantasy (in addition to Crohn's or eating disorder treatment) was that that she was pregnant, and had an ectopic pregnancy (that was deeply emotionally and physically traumatic) which perhaps also resulted in an emergency hysterectomy. I suspected she was then mourning not only the pregnancy but future pregnancies, essentially needing healing physically and emotionally because she was depressed, understandably. (Perhaps she was also at risk of sepsis and the situation was quite serious). BUT hearing now about the marriage and the picture fiasco makes me indeed wonder if they are separating or in a deep marital crisis. Reports of his drinking provide more fodder as well as the odd timing of reports whereby it was stated that William and nanny were handling school runs followed by close declarations that HER family was circling the wagons and doing much of the caregiving. Multiple things can be happening at once (individual issues, marital crisis, larger family dynamics...perhaps Charles is very ill and they are reeling as they prepare to take over years earlier than expected and scrambling, particularly if the marriage is also troubled). Intuitively, it feels like it is a troubled marriage which is deeply sad if true.

I’ll debunk your pregnancy theory. Not possible. IF she were pregnant, she’d be having an ultrasound to confirm very early on and a tubal pregnancy would have been detected well before it grew large enough to rupture a tube.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My original fantasy (in addition to Crohn's or eating disorder treatment) was that that she was pregnant, and had an ectopic pregnancy (that was deeply emotionally and physically traumatic) which perhaps also resulted in an emergency hysterectomy. I suspected she was then mourning not only the pregnancy but future pregnancies, essentially needing healing physically and emotionally because she was depressed, understandably. (Perhaps she was also at risk of sepsis and the situation was quite serious). BUT hearing now about the marriage and the picture fiasco makes me indeed wonder if they are separating or in a deep marital crisis. Reports of his drinking provide more fodder as well as the odd timing of reports whereby it was stated that William and nanny were handling school runs followed by close declarations that HER family was circling the wagons and doing much of the caregiving. Multiple things can be happening at once (individual issues, marital crisis, larger family dynamics...perhaps Charles is very ill and they are reeling as they prepare to take over years earlier than expected and scrambling, particularly if the marriage is also troubled). Intuitively, it feels like it is a troubled marriage which is deeply sad if true.

I wondered about something similar. Kate’s primary value to the monarchy has been her ability to give birth to future monarchs, and, secondarily, to represent the monarchy in an appropriately positive, photogenic way. Given that, something like a hysterectomy might have been especially traumatic to someone in her position— IF something similar were to happen.

Yes..and for a very contained, controlled, fit person to have a public, serious illness can be traumatic and difficult in a certain kind of way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My original fantasy (in addition to Crohn's or eating disorder treatment) was that that she was pregnant, and had an ectopic pregnancy (that was deeply emotionally and physically traumatic) which perhaps also resulted in an emergency hysterectomy. I suspected she was then mourning not only the pregnancy but future pregnancies, essentially needing healing physically and emotionally because she was depressed, understandably. (Perhaps she was also at risk of sepsis and the situation was quite serious). BUT hearing now about the marriage and the picture fiasco makes me indeed wonder if they are separating or in a deep marital crisis. Reports of his drinking provide more fodder as well as the odd timing of reports whereby it was stated that William and nanny were handling school runs followed by close declarations that HER family was circling the wagons and doing much of the caregiving. Multiple things can be happening at once (individual issues, marital crisis, larger family dynamics...perhaps Charles is very ill and they are reeling as they prepare to take over years earlier than expected and scrambling, particularly if the marriage is also troubled). Intuitively, it feels like it is a troubled marriage which is deeply sad if true.

I wondered about something similar. Kate’s primary value to the monarchy has been her ability to give birth to future monarchs, and, secondarily, to represent the monarchy in an appropriately positive, photogenic way. Given that, something like a hysterectomy might have been especially traumatic to someone in her position— IF something similar were to happen.

Her value is being a well liked commoner.