Mormon church's obsession with covering shoulders
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Anonymous
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FB friend linked to this blog post yesterday. The treatment of women in Romeny's faith does not bode well for the country if he is elected. Scared the crap out of me. Why in hell would the Mormon church feel that it needed to photoshop sleeves onto a picture of a little BLACK girl?
http://bycommonconsent.com/2012/09/03/editing-photos-to-add-cap-sleeves-is-a-bad-idea/ |
Anonymous
| Why does it matter that she is BLACK? |
Anonymous
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Weird.
I'm guessing they would have done it for a white girl as well. |
Anonymous
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Mormonism and Black Skin
“But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332 When Mormon missionaries come to the door of literally thousands of potential converts they will assure the unsuspecting that they represent "Jesus Christ" and are preaching His Gospel. However, that is not the case on many accounts. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) cannot escape their racist past. For nearly 150 years, the Mormon Church had taught that ALL blacks were cursed. Hence, a black Mormon male could not hold the highly regarded LDS Priesthood1 because of his dark skin. And since he could not hold this Priesthood, he could not enter the Mormon Temple. This doctrine in no way, shape, or form can be substantiated in Scripture. Only in the LDS scriptures does this racist doctrine exist. To determine official LDS doctrine from unofficial speculation let us read the statements that were made by the General Authorities of the LDS Church as well as citations from the LDS "standard works." So then, official LDS teaching cannot be evaded or denied as many Mormons (especially uninformed missionaries) often do. Cursed in Pre-existence But, before we read what LDS leaders have taught concerning the "cursed line," we will need to go back and discover as to why dark skinned people are cursed. Then we will have a better understanding of Mormon thought on this issue. Mormons teach that when the "council of the Gods" were planning how to redeemed mankind Jesus desired to save man by giving them their free choice, however Lucifer objected and wanted to force men to serve God. LDS scholar Bruce R. McConkie tells us: When the plan of salvation presented . . . and when the need for a Redeemer was explained, Satan offered to come into the world as the Son of God and be the Redeemer. "Behold here am I, send me," he said. . . . But then, as always, he was in opposition to the full plan of the Father, and so he sought to amend and change the terms of salvation; he sought to deny men their agency and to dethrone God (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 193). Therefore, the Gods rejected Lucifer's plan, which resulted in a war between the good spirit children, and the spirit children that sided with Lucifer (a third of them). But there was a group of spirits that were less valiant in this war. Hence, God (the head God) was very displeased with them so He turned their skin black. Tenth President Joseph Fielding Smith explains: There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had an estate before we came here, and were obedient; more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there [pre-existence] received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less. . . . There were no neutrals in the war in Heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, and men receive rewards here based upon their actions there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 1:61, 65-66; emphasis added). LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie furthers this teaching: Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions impose on them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God, and his murder of Able being a black skin. . . . Noah's son married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood. . . . the negro are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concern. . . . " (Mormon Doctrine, 527-28; 1966 orig. ed., changed in the current ed.; emphasis added). Now, we can have more of a clearer perspective as to why the LDS would teach such blatant racism that Scripture never condones. Now we will read what LDS General Authorities had taught concerning the, what they termed, "cursed lineage," that is, dark skinned people (particularly Negroes).......http://www.christiandefense.org/mor_black.htm |
Anonymous
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And Muslim women cover their hair.
Does Islam "scare the crap" out of you too? Does Barack Hussein Obama scare the crap out of you? You are a bigoted pig. It's a shame people spread hatred about other religions on DCUMs. I am reporting this thread to Jeff. I may not be his favorite poster here, but this thread is inappropriate. |
Anonymous
Yes; if you follow the links on the web page, you will see that they added a base layer to two angels in a classical painting so that their shoulders aren't bare. |
Anonymous
| I was raised mormon. the obsession with sex and modesty cannot be overstated. I was raised with the idea that having premarital sex was a sin of the same category of bad as killing somebody. Seriously. |
Anonymous
| Many Orthodox Churches discourage sleeveless dresses/shirts on both men and women. (Greek and Antiochan Orthodox Churches are typically less strict, but Slavic Orthodox churches will often provide "cover ups" for those considered too exposed.) |
Anonymous
| The same is true fo all jews in services. Orthodox women will be modest at all times including the summer. (long skirts, long sleeves) |
Anonymous
| Meh. Like Jews and Muslims with hair and skirts. All of it is wacked. |
Anonymous
| A few years ago I made a trip to rome, spent hours in line at the Vatican and was refused admission to St. Peters beacuse my skort did not cover my knees. Its not just the mormons a lot of religions have issues with skin. BTW, I would like to add that my travel companies was a 6 foot nordic woman who was wearing spandex pants complete with camel toe - she got in - and took nice pictures. |
Anonymous
What does President Obama have to do with the first two questions? Clearly you're the one with issues about religion. |
Anonymous
Same thing happened to me, but I was wearing a long sleeveless sundress. Aparantly major joints are considered obscene. |
Anonymous
He was raised muslim (hence "Hussein"). in a muslim school. were you lobotomized? (duh) 
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Anonymous
\ Wow, you're an idiot. His name comes from his father, who was raised in a Muslim family but converted to CHRISTIANITY. He attended a CATHOLIC school in Indonesia and then a state run school there. He then moved to Hawaii to live with his grandparents (who were not muslim) and he attended school there (NOT A MUSLIM SCHOOL). He was not raised Muslim in a Muslim school. Get your facts straight before you start spouting off nonsense. |