Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

[Anonymous]

t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He may have quickly taken drugs to hide the evidence, which started to take effect. He may have gotten injured in the car either due to panicking, the drugs, or the struggle. He was a danger to himself, and others, and that's why they held him. If it was the back of his neck, I don't think that would be harmful. The exact placement of Chauvin's knee is key, and you can't tell by looking what amount of pressure he was applying. Why he would do it, and zone out to where the paramedics had to tell him to get off of him, I don't know.

It's easy for his supervisor to say he had no reason to use restraint, when he wasn't in the situation. The claustrophobia only came up in the police car, not his own car. It looks bad for Chauvin for GF to say they're going to kill me, and the crowd to say what they said. The cops had info the crowd did not have. For the off duty EMT woman to think she could have saved his life, without knowing the drugs he was on, is optimistic.

I would guess that you're are not a medical examiner, correct? Why on Earth then would you disregard the autopsy finding? It's been quoted upthread. As for a knee on the back of a neck, I think you should try that out for the sake of research & get back to us (if you lived which I doubt). LE are able to put the knee on the shoulders WHILE HANDCUFFING. Not neck, & not for nine minutes.

Why are you looking for reasons to excuse this guy? He failed in his job, & he has failed as a human being. Now he has to pay the price.

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I cannot believe there are people defending this when Chauvin’s own senior officer said that what he did was against regulations and there was no justification for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd. Floyd lost consciousness about four minutes into Chauvin’s knee on his neck. That was nearly five minutes of him kneeling on Floyd’s neck after he posed ZERO threat. None. None whatsoever. You are excusing murder. Cold blooded murder.

Have you seen the video when Chauvin first approaches Floyd’s car? If you haven’t, you should seek it out. Chauvin comes off as a racist, power-mad ashole. Murdering the guy in cold blood proves it.

[Anonymous]

Floyd died of a heart attack. Not caused by police action.

[Anonymous]

It’s not murder in cold blood. It’s an overdose that caused a heart attack. Police are not trained ET docs. And even if they were there is no guarantee they could have stopped that heart attack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

The police chief, along with several other higher-ranking members of the police department, disagree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

The police chief, along with several other higher-ranking members of the police department, disagree with you.

Also, the ER doctor who treated Floyd disagrees with the prior poster.

[Anonymous]

If he died from a heart attack, the police are still negligent by not assessing his condition at any point, notice he stopped breathing and was not struggling and never at any point, render first aide per their fundamental training.To make matters worse, he didn’t even get out of the way when paramedics arrived to help; whether Chauvin is dumb, on an ego trip or was distracted, he failed in so many ways and contributed if not caused George’s death.

[Anonymous]

I suspect the police chief, who is currently on the stand, will give some more damning testimony today. He has been very vocal about his feelings on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

All these factors just happened to come together to cause his death at the one time when Chauvin kneeled on his neck for 9 and a half minutes? Please.

[Anonymous]

Let’s see what happens. If the police officer gets charged with murder in this case there will be very few officers willing to either choose to respond to calls or choose this as a career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s see what happens. If the police officer gets charged with murder in this case there will be very few officers willing to either choose to respond to calls or choose this as a career.

I already know a few young men (high school/college age) who were considering a career in law enforcement, but have changed their mind over the last year. This case, the one in the Wendy's drive thru in Georgia, Jacob Blake...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s see what happens. If the police officer gets charged with murder in this case there will be very few officers willing to either choose to respond to calls or choose this as a career.

If what they’re doing with MCPS 5 year olds is any indication, not coming out would be a substantial improvement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:t’s easy to sit at your desk behind your computer and judge. Floyd was a huge muscular guy high on drugs and combative. People pass out all the time while high. They don’t usually die. While the cop should have checked on Floyd he is not substantially responsible for his death. Meth + COVID + a heart condition + long term drug use killed Floyd. That it happened during an arrest is incidental. Cops have to deal with violent combative drug users constantly.

Exactly cops deal with all the time and they are trained to not use this hold with somebody on drugs so they neglected their duty and cause his death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s see what happens. If the police officer gets charged with murder in this case there will be very few officers willing to either choose to respond to calls or choose this as a career.

Not true and good cop that watches the video will be happy to get rid of this bad cop. The more bad cops convicted, the safe good cops are.